Thread: Red shirt inmate dies at Lak Si prison

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

No but it gives you access to vastly more information on which to base your judgements.

yes, it's called noises and it doesn't change anything. Repeating the same injustice over and over doesn't make the underlying injustice more substantial, it's there already, we got it the first time, and once was enough to know what are the underlying issues. Like many fools, you need to be repeated the same stories many times over to think it's more substantial, or give it more weight, missing in between the core principles and the issues at hand. Basically, a justification for distraction and not addressing the real issues with real solutions. So typically Thai.

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

you're left with either relying on the nonsense in the Bangkok Post/Nation or making stuff up.

oh please, that old argument again, you are hilarious. Who bother to read those 2 boring newspaper anyway ? probably red farang idiots to feed their agenda,

oh please, that old argument again, you are hilarious. Who bother to read those 2 boring newspaper anyway ? probably red farang idiots to feed their agenda,

So you prefer just to make things up then. Do you see the similarities with Boon Mee coming in to focus yet?

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

So you prefer just to make things up then.

how did you come to that conclusion ? maybe my reliable sources are better than those 2 idiotic newspaper ? again, you are making all kind of assumptions and logic jumps, hints pointing that you don't possess much of judgment skills. Which proves my earlier point.

but to be fair and since it has been a long time we had this kind of silly debates with a red, please post your long Democracy propaganda with your interpretation. We have heard it all before, but sometimes a gem pops up and it's game for shredding.

Originally Posted by sabang

Oh joy- yet more specious arguments that "most Thai people must be dumb because they did not vote for the party I think they should have voted for".

ha sab, your Leo logic never fails you, doesn't it ?

Originally Posted by sabang

that military Coup in Thailand is in fact a Patriotic as opposed to Traitorous act

do you have any evidence that it wasn't ? This is not a Republic in case you missed it, Leo.

Originally Posted by sabang

red shirt protesters are dying in jail, while their brothers in arms in yellow have still not even been tried for alleged offences committed two years before. Something smell a bit fishy?

jesus, you must be on bottle 10 or 200 with that one,

PAD brothers in arm ? have you conveniently forgotten PT ?

how did you come to that conclusion ? maybe my reliable sources are better than those 2 idiotic newspaper ?

So what do you read then?

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

So what do you read then?

what do you care ? won't tell you anything you would be able to process anyway with your flawed judgment skills.

In the meantime, please entertain us with your red propaganda digest or what you read in the red press, always looking for an undiscovered gem.

what do you care ?

Because if you don't read Thai (which, despite your claim to have read the นปช site, I'm pretty sure you don't) and you don't read the Nation or the Bangkok Post, there's not an awful lot left. There are a few blogs you could pick up bits and pieces from but basically you'd completely ignorant of what's going on. Are you completely ignorant of what's going on, Butterfly?

In the meantime, please entertain us with your red propaganda digest or what you read in the red press, always looking for an undiscovered gem.

It's a thread about the death of วันชัย รักสงวนศิลป์ so here's an interesting picture from a little protest about his death.

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

There are a few blogs you could pick up bits and pieces from but basically you'd completely ignorant of what's going on. Are you completely ignorant of what's going on, Butterfly?

more assumptions and logic jump, and you wonder why you can't be taken seriously like all the other farang red idiots

like I said, for entertainment purpose, please post your digest Red propaganda so we can tear it apart.

The sheer "naivety" of the base, and the predatory behavior of the Red leaders is just another Thai political scam. Some might know what's going on, but they don't have the funding and the political wisdom to gain any traction nationally. They will become in time another marginal movement that will eventually need to flee in the jungle ala Khmer Rouge once the "Great Leader" has returned. Fucking classic.

^ Common Buttermee, I'm just asking where you get your news from. It's not a state secret. Just to get the ball rolling, with regard to Thai-language news, I subscribe to go6, thaienews, and นปช and most mornings I have a look at Matichon, Prachatai and Thairath online. And then there's tons which comes through Facebook. So what do you read? It's not the Bangkok Post or the Nation and it's nothing in Thai so what is it?

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

I'm just asking where you get your news from

it's completely irrelevant, unless you are one of those idiots who think the source is more important than the actual arguments (DrB suffers from this). Revealing my sources doesn't tell you anything more or give you any more arguments in my favor or your favor. Why not ask the color of my hair instead ? or my religion ?

same as your sources, they are irrelevant in a debate, maybe it be propaganda or else. I am more interested in your digested view of the political situation, your logic to reach your conclusions and how your bias is impairing your judgment value.

Exchanging notes for your sources is what you would expect from school girls trying to build confidence about their fragile homework

so what about Reds democracy arguments in your own words without the need to post a link for everything you say ? that would be a nice change from the usual clueless red idiots we see on this board on a regular basis

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

So no, I'm not going to give you some kind of Best of The Reds.

of course you aren't going to, you can't put in your own words what's it's all about. Without your precious "online" sources and red newspaper, what have you ? nothing but your naive stupidity

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

Why on earth would I want to have some kind of debate

exactly, why on earth would you want us to debate your red propaganda and be exposed as another farang fraud

Originally Posted by Butterfly

oh I have read it before, but did you ? or maybe you didn't understand any of it

Read what? This you mean? Here's the most recent post:

Originally Posted by Red website which Butterfly read

ทีมข่าว นปช.
28 ธันวาคม 2555

วันนี้ อ.ธิดา ถาวรเศรษฐ ประธานแนวร่วมประชาธิปไตยต่อต้านเผด็จการแห่งชา ติ ได้แถลงพร้อมด้วยแกนนำนปช. โดยระบุ จุดยืนของคนเสื้อแดง ยังเหมือนเดิมคือการแก้ไขรัฐธรรมนูญ เพราะเป็นไปตามรัฐธรรมนูญ คือ อำนาจการแก้ไขรัฐธรรมนูญ เป็นอำนาจของรัฐสภา คือ ฝ่ายนิติบัญญัติอย่างแท้จริง พร้อมกันนี้ ทิศทางจะต้องนำไปสู่ความเป็นประชาธิปไตย ซึ่งการทำประชามติ จะทำให้ไปสู่ระบอบอำมาตย์ ไม่ใช่ประชาธิปไตยที่มาจากประชาชน

That's strange because you said

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I don't want to learn Thai (Speaking Thai = Thinking Thai ?)

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I don't see the point of learning Thai, it's not like it's a major language, definitely not a must (Is it really necessary to learn a host country's language?)

It's like learning how to speak Monkey, who the fuck care.

Hmm. How strange.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

exposed as another farang fraud

Indeed.

A debate can be likened to the verbal jousting of a defense and prosecuting attorney in court. If one of them refuses to reveal the sources of his verbal diarrhea, it is quickly apparent that he is either a fool or a liar.
Pulling recycled fascist propaganda out of your arse, that was deposited by your sources, indicates your sources cannot risk the embarassment and shame of being revealed by you.

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

That's strange because you said

right, because there is a law that says somewhere I can't have someone Thai reading it and translating it for me ?

jesus, you idiot farang reds are always the same, have to search past posts when running out of arguments

again, let's hear it in your own words, but since you seem to be another intellectual coward, I have a feeling you will find more distraction and it's not going to happen

Originally Posted by Butterfly

right, because there is a law that says somewhere I can't have someone Thai reading it and translating it for me

Give it up. You lied and you got caught. There's no need to carry on making a fucking spectacle of yourself.

I understand you are new here, and want to make an impression

but it's public knowledge on this forum that I don't read and speak Thai fluently, I do speak some Thai but yes I don't directly read it

doesn't mean I can't read a Thai website when I need to, I simply ask my Thai secretary to read it with me and she translates it, happens all the time.

so again a nice distraction from you to avoid addressing the real questions, that is your true comprehension of the Reds cause

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

So no, I'm not going to give you some kind of Best of The Reds.

of course you aren't going to, you can't put in your own words what's it's all about. Without your precious "online" sources and red newspaper, what have you ? nothing but your naive stupidity

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

Why on earth would I want to have some kind of debate

exactly, why on earth would you want us to debate your red propaganda and be exposed as another farang fraud

Incidentally Butterfly your Soi Nana Bargirl and the Sick water Buffalo wisecrack was a classic ,and the best I've read for quite a spell! it made me piss my shorts laughing

that's the problem with those farangs who have learn how to read and write in Thai and who can speak fluently, they think they have it all figured out in terms of Thai culture and political intrigue. DrB would do the same by reading Tea leaves and Ancient Thai literature. Ok, the Tea Leaves might have actually work, but 15th century Thai literature (if we can call it literature) ?

a bit like an American living in France and learning perfectly French thinking he got the whole French culture and the local political intrigue figured out, it's ridiculous

with those idiot red farangs, a few red blogs, a few somtam, and suddenly they have the whole Issaan mentality figured out

I'm sure the Isaan (or yawi, sinothai, tai, lanna, hilltribe etc) mentality must be a topic of fascination for some, but the national democratic vote is a lot more informative- and much easier arrived at.

Originally Posted by sabang

he national democratic vote is a lot more informative

indeed, amazing what vote buying can do for you

the weak alternative was as guilty as the vote buying to be honest, so much for Thai democracy regardless

Vote Buyout + Weak Alternatives == Road to Fascism

it's shame that red idiots like Zooheekock are also intellectual cowards, and have to live in their red bubble because they can't face reality that the group they support is actually another fascist group voided of meaningful ideas to restore the balance of power.

Taking all power from one group to give it to another is their idea of "restoring" balance of power. They don't understand the synchronicity of that balance and how it shouldn't be time dependent.