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    the fiance said, when i remember right, that when he decided to go to the hospital, she looked very awful and he thought she would need help urgently (as in "she was dying")...

    the canadian sisters saw each other...

    i dont know who and how many where in the same room in the chiang mai cases (girls), but they were not (all) in separate rooms?

    the elderly couple in chiang mai was in the same room, surely they had insurance/telephone - any means to call for help...

    NONE of them, not one single move to get out of the room, to call the reception... to ask for more toilet paper...

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    Two dead, seven poisoned after drinking coffee

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    TAKEO (Cambodia Herald) – Two people died and another seven were poisoned after drinking coffee at a temple in Tram Kok district, police said.

    Deputy district police inspector Oun Sokhom said the incident occurred at Ang Tam Trey temple when 71-year-old Keo Porn, a Cambodian-American, served fruit and coffee after conducting a funeral for her grandson.

    He said Choup Tech, 77 and Top Nop, 80, died after returning home. Apart from Keo Norn, the victims hospitalized were identified as Mil Nhen, 67, Ngeth Lim, 72, Nhin Norn, 75, Sao Kin, 65, Srey Mao, 10, and a two-year-old boy known as Yak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat View Post
    not enough...

    they had something, what made them unable to really move...

    unable to call for help... something what not only inflicted the heart, but the brain too...

    NONE of the cases ever contacted the reception, or called home or whatever...
    the women with the fiance on phi-phi never tried to make it outside, while he wasnt there, it was HIM who decided they go to the hospital (on the way she died)...
    she did (faik) NOT say to him, bring me to a doctor, get me help...

    the canadians - lets assume they DID have a travel insurance - as well as the scandinavians...

    they all claim to be backpack/budget, but NONE of them really was...
    they had the money/insurance to call for help, to manage a doctor to come or being brought to the hospital...
    none ever did do a thing about it...

    whatever they had, they didnt feel that they were dying?
    something with the brain... or better "perception"...

    we know from the phi-phi-cases that it took around 5 hours...
    if you are backpacking around a third world country, eating dodgy shite from dodgy vendors offering dodgy food, and you got the shites and started puking, you (or i, should i say) would simply put it down to a bad case of fthe "east asian quickstep", pop a few imodiums and sweat it out without running off to the doctor.
    if it turned out to be poisoning, i think one would possibly become too weak to manage to even ask for help, as in the case of parathion poisoning where one becomes weak, dizzy, lethargic and has impaired vision and can lapse into unconciousness while shitting and pissing oneself without control.

    ..........still think they drank some of somchai's homebrew and thought they would feel better the next morning, got back to the hotel to sleep it off and perhaps only realised they were in real shit when it was too late for them to be able to seek help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar View Post
    if it turned out to be poisoning, i think one would possibly become too weak to manage to even ask for help, as in the case of parathion poisoning where one becomes weak, dizzy, lethargic and has impaired vision and can lapse into unconciousness while shitting and pissing oneself without control.
    in general i agree, but how likely is it, that they all suffer in the same status?

    one (or more) of them must have looked more bad - seriously bad...

    thats the point, the stronger makes it out of the room (as the american or canadian women in cambodia did)...

    in thailand NONE ever tried to get out, or call help, or call for more toilet paper (seriously) or towels or anything... and there were ALWAYS more than one person in the room... and they were NOT in the last rundown shackle booth and in addition they were well insured and had money...

    the canadians even didnt manage to take all ibuprofen !
    most people would have taken them all, imagining things go worse and worse and there is no other help - - except you get worse from it...

    about "somchais homebrew" read the deadly-coffee-article, i changed the post above...
    they didnt survive the funeral meal... bizarre...
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    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand View Post
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    this is not the polydol i am talking about.

    they use the insecticide you described in a previous post:
    If what you are saying is true, then thousands of thais would be dropping over dead after just ONE DRINK. You know why? It's because of what I already told you: the amount of parathion needed to kill is just a tiny sprinkle of dust worth, a few hundred milligrams, a slight tipping of a tiny squirt, an its- bitsy teeny-weeny extremely minute amount! .
    i have watched the thais in isaan manually spraying crops with this stuff, no protective clothing, no respirators or masks, coming out of the fields totally drenched (it is readily absorbed through healthy skin)

    they down small bottles of laow khow and start puking and coughing, the reason i was told was to purge themselves of the poison.

    every year for the four years i knew these guys and not one of them died, these were the same bunch who added small amounts of the stuff to 25 litre vats of their homebrew, and as far as i know they are still alive today.
    ...so i guess the few drops they would add to a 25 litre vat to improve the quality of the brew could possibly have resulted in a dilution that would not cause instant death, but could catch an unwary farang out if he drank too much of the stuff.






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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs View Post

    Perhaps whoever made the drinks got hold of some the "Polydol" containing the insecticide and added it to their drinks, without realising it contained different ingredients to the stuff that they usually used?
    I don’t believe that the insecticide parathion that is called ‘polydol’ in some countries is found under the name ‘polydol’ in Thailand. (I see it used in Sri Lanka, though).

    My wife’s aunt says there is an insecticide call ‘polydone’ that is a red liquid with a smell stronger than bleach that, when mixed with water, turns white. She says Thais use this around their gardens, for example, to kill bugs. But I don't know what the actual pesticide chemical name it is. Doubt very strongly it is parathion, as that is super-toxic.

    As you can see below, in Thailand ‘polydol’ is a tablet whose ingredients are a pain killer (which is acetaminophen otherwise known as paracetamol in Thailand and ‘Tylenol’ in the US) plus orphenadrine (muscle relaxant). This is what is probably crushed and added to bucket drinks in Thailand.

    Doing a web search for ‘polydol Thailand’ what you get is
    http://www.mims.com/Thailand/drug/info/Polydol/Polydol
    which is for the paracetamol/orphenadrie tablets. “
    Orphenadrine citrate 30 mg, paracetamol 500 mg”

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    Shroud of Mystery Clouds Canadian Sisters' Deaths on Phi Phi - Phuket Wan


    Pick your poison: Cocktail buckets in various sizes on sale on Phi Phi
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    Shroud of Mystery Clouds Canadian Sisters' Deaths on Phi Phi

    By Alan Morison and Rattanawan Vatcharasorat
    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

    PHUKET: The final report by Thai police into the mysterious deaths of two Canadian sisters on the island of Phi Phi should have arrived at the Canadian embassy in Bangkok yesterday.

    ''We sent the report late last week,'' said Colonel Jongrak Pimtong, the Deputy Superintendent of Krabi province, which oversees the popular holiday destination.

    ''The report concludes that we were unable to establish the cause of their deaths.''

    The presence of insecticide was detected in the bodies of Audrey and Noemi Belanger during autopsies performed in Bangkok soon after the women were found dead in their room at a Phi Phi resort on June 15.

    Colonel Jongrak told Phuketwan in August that pathologists had detected insecticide in Audrey 20, and Noemi, 26.

    Speculation followed that the sisters may have drunk DEET - the most common active ingredient in insecticides - in the customary Phi Phi drinking habit of mixing all kinds of ingredients in ''buckets,'' large and small.

    However, no further details have been forthcoming. Restrained by privacy laws, Canadian officials have had nothing to add.

    Krabi Tourism Association president Ittirit Kinglek at first feared that the police were covering up the circumstances of the sisters' deaths. Phi Phi business folk have a reputation for keeping unsavory incidents out of the media.

    However, Khun Ittirit was later persuaded that police were restricting information at the request of Canadian authorities.

    ''I now understand that the police have been asked by the Canadian Embassy to not explain to the media what happened,'' he said last month.

    Khun Ittirit told Phuketwan that he thinks it's wrong to suppress information about the mysterious deaths of tourists in Thailand at the request of a foreign government.

    ''In my opinion,'' he told Phuketwan ''if something happens in Krabi, police need to be clear and explain in Thailand what happened, not wait for Canadian authorities to let us say something.''

    Whatever the rationale for the enduring silence from both Canadian and Thai officials, the lack of information plays into the hands of the people who seek to maintain Phi Phi's appeal by suppressing damaging information.

    Requests for more information - on the grounds that the public has a right to know what killed the Belanger sisters - have been politely deflected by Canadian officials, noting the country's privacy laws.

    Second autopsies on the sisters are understood to have taken place, before their funerals, in Canada.

    Colonel Jongrak told Phuketwan that he visited Phi Phi at the weekend, intent on seeing the bars where 20-something tourists drink concoctions of alcohol and other substances, usually mixed in a plastic ''bucket'' then sucked through a straw.

    ''It was a wet monsoon season weekend so many of the bars were closed,'' he said.

    The deaths of the Belangers are doubly mystifying because of the similarity to an unsolved riddle that cost the lives of American Jill St Onge, 27, and Norwegian Julie Bergheim, 22, in 2009.

    Ms St Onge and Ms Bergheim, who did not know each other and never met, fell ill while staying in adjoining rooms at a Phi Phi guesthouse not far from the resort where the Belangers died.

    Ms St Onge's companion Ryan Kells, who narrowly escaped death in 2009, told Phuketwan last month: ''Something has to be done this time. If not, we are going to read about it happening again and again.''
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    Sorry duplicate but then see below

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    Oh but LOOK why not ask Doctor Spikey Hair to report? The fact of course is her job is to make the police look like shit and make the owners of any hotel or restaurant Establihsment types look OK. She knows it - that's why she a Khunying. And no I can't explain what the title means as the vultures would have me ARRESTED for even explaining this well-healed cnuts' link to the title. (and look how long it's taking to load).
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post

    However, no further details have been forthcoming. Restrained by privacy laws, Canadian officials have had nothing to add.
    I would imagine that if the Canadian father wanted the results released, they would be released--since it's his family's privacy they're talking about.

    So the question is: what could motivate the father to 'cover up' details of the deaths, the same man who many times accused the Thais of covering up the incident.

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    That's a good question. He could be a very private person and not wanting people in his hometown to gossip. But as it's a serious issue which could affect other travellers, if he's a reasonable person he would want details to be known. Usually family involved in cases like this want to save others from the same fate. So why ???

    What eventuated about the Portuguese guy, anyway ? Was he able to shed light on anything ?
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    Could anyone imagine the Thais offering him a large sum of money to keep quiet so as to protect the Thai tourist industry?

    The Thais would never engage in bribery and corruption for financial gain, would they?

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    Case closed on deaths of Canadian sisters in Krabi - The Nation

    Case closed on deaths of Canadian sisters in Krabi

    Story and Photo : Phuket Gazette October 3, 2012 4:50 pm

    Canadian sisters Audrey and Noemi Belanger

    Krabi Police have closed the case on the deaths of Canadian sisters Audrey and Noemi Belanger and no more investigations are to be conducted.

    Audrey, 20, and Noemi, 25, from Quebec, were found dead in their hotel room on Phi Phi Island on June 15. Both had suffered a violent physical reaction to suspected poisoning.

    Autopsies conducted by forensic police identified that both women had ingested an undisclosed amount of the insecticide DEET, possible from a "party cocktail" known locally as "Four times 100". The regular form the "cocktail", however, does not contain DEET or any insecticide.

    "We have been asked by the Canadian Embassy and the [Belanger] family to not reveal anything about the case. We are standing by that. The cause of death in the police report to the embassy is "Unknown"," Lt Col Jongrak Pimthong of Krabi City Police told the Phuket Gazette today.

    "We are now preparing the documents to be sent to the Canadian Embassy. I have informed them that the case is closed. All the official documents will be sent today as soon as we finished copying them," he added.

    All police investigations related to the case will cease, including any attempt to question the man last seen with the two sisters before their were found dead.

    The CCTV system at the resort where the women were staying captured images of an unidentified man assisting the sisters back to their room in the early hours of June 13.

    "We did not question the man since he does not live in Thailand, and the two sisters' relatives requested that we did not question him after seeing the CCTV records," Col Jongrak said

    However, Krabi Police will continue to check the drinks being served at night entertainment venues.

    "If we find anything suspicious, we will report it to Krabi Public Health Office to investigate," Col Jongrak said.

    "As I said, no further information related to the case will be released, at the request of the embassy and the family. If the embassy would like to reveal anything further, they will hold a press conference on it," he added.

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    ^ It looks to me like the families want to keep a lid on the whole story to save face. They don't want everyone knowing that their daughters died of a drug over-dose.

    I don't blame them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    So the question is: what could motivate the father to 'cover up' details of the deaths, the same man who many times accused the Thais of covering up the incident.
    Motivate? Cover up? you really are a freak and a nutter, the guy has lost 2 of his daughters, what do you think he has been thinking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar View Post
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    this is not the polydol i am talking about.

    they use the insecticide you described in a previous post:
    If what you are saying is true, then thousands of thais would be dropping over dead after just ONE DRINK. You know why? It's because of what I already told you: the amount of parathion needed to kill is just a tiny sprinkle of dust worth, a few hundred milligrams, a slight tipping of a tiny squirt, an its- bitsy teeny-weeny extremely minute amount! .
    i have watched the thais in isaan manually spraying crops with this stuff, no protective clothing, no respirators or masks, coming out of the fields totally drenched (it is readily absorbed through healthy skin)

    they down small bottles of laow khow and start puking and coughing, the reason i was told was to purge themselves of the poison.

    every year for the four years i knew these guys and not one of them died, these were the same bunch who added small amounts of the stuff to 25 litre vats of their homebrew, and as far as i know they are still alive today.
    ...so i guess the few drops they would add to a 25 litre vat to improve the quality of the brew could possibly have resulted in a dilution that would not cause instant death, but could catch an unwary farang out if he drank too much of the stuff.






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    I had some of this shit and was told later that there was added poison of some description in it later after being violently I'll for 2 days after drinking it. Really fucked me up

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    So the question is: what could motivate the father to 'cover up' details of the deaths, the same man who many times accused the Thais of covering up the incident.
    Motivate? Cover up? you really are a freak and a nutter, the guy has lost 2 of his daughters, what do you think he has been thinking about?

    Previously, this father has been saying the Thais are engaging in a cover up. He has said he believes his daughters were deliberately poisoned. I believe he even stated he wanted to warn others about the dangers of Thailand.

    But now the Canadians aren't releasing the results of the autopsy for "privacy reasons". "Privacy" has to do with the family. Therefore, it appears the father now, for some reason, doesn't want the results released. If this is true, then it is in contradiction to his earlier statements. So the question is: if it is true it is the father denying release of autopsy results, why is he doing that, given that he was so eager to have Thailand 'come clean' with the investigation?

    Sorry, dirtydog, that you're not following this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    ^ It looks to me like the families want to keep a lid on the whole story to save face. They don't want everyone knowing that their daughters died of a drug over-dose.

    I don't blame them.
    socal, you really are a broken record: it has been pointed out to you numerous times that "drug overdoses" don't cause the symptoms they had.

    You haven't by any chance been drinking 'buckets' yourself, have you? you know, like in the morning and for lunch, too? Speaking of lunch, it sounds like that is exactly where you are---out to lunch.

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    Have been following this story for a while now.... Just tragic.

    Really great thread BTW. At least when the name calling ceases long enough for the obvious intelligence of some BM's to shine through.

    Columbo question coming up...

    Was there a phone to reception in the room?

    Also seeing as the father is keeping the matter private that would tend to rule out certain possibilities such as murder by poisoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    So the question is: what could motivate the father to 'cover up' details of the deaths, the same man who many times accused the Thais of covering up the incident.
    Motivate? Cover up? you really are a freak and a nutter, the guy has lost 2 of his daughters, what do you think he has been thinking about?

    Previously, this father has been saying the Thais are engaging in a cover up. He has said he believes his daughters were deliberately poisoned. I believe he even stated he wanted to warn others about the dangers of Thailand.

    But now the Canadians aren't releasing the results of the autopsy for "privacy reasons". "Privacy" has to do with the family. Therefore, it appears the father now, for some reason, doesn't want the results released. If this is true, then it is in contradiction to his earlier statements. So the question is: if it is true it is the father denying release of autopsy results, why is he doing that, given that he was so eager to have Thailand 'come clean' with the investigation?

    Sorry, dirtydog, that you're not following this.
    Because they probably died on drugs. Thailand isn't really to blame and he doesn't want the whole word knowing that they made a bad decision and did drugs.

    I find it the most strange how quickly the portugese guys were cleared by the dad, and both govts. U think they all know what happend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    ^ It looks to me like the families want to keep a lid on the whole story to save face. They don't want everyone knowing that their daughters died of a drug over-dose.

    I don't blame them.
    socal, you really are a broken record: it has been pointed out to you numerous times that "drug overdoses" don't cause the symptoms they had.

    You haven't by any chance been drinking 'buckets' yourself, have you? you know, like in the morning and for lunch, too? Speaking of lunch, it sounds like that is exactly where you are---out to lunch.
    I happen to be Canadian and I'm close to their age. I ve been there 2 years ago.

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    Phi Phi, Vietnam, Thai Mystery Deaths Remain Open

    By Alan Morison and Chutima Sidasathian
    Saturday, October 6, 2012

    PHUKET: The case of the deaths of Canada's Belanger sisters on Phi Phi is unlikely to be closed until the cause of their mysterious deaths is clearly established.

    Although the Thai police investigation has concluded for now, at some point new information or evidence may lead to it being reopened.

    That's certainly the hope of Phuketwan and of a new Facebook group, Protected Travels, where the Belanger mystery and riddles like it are attracting a lot of attention.

    Jason Von Seth is a friend of Kari Bowerman, 27, an American, who died in July of an unexplained cause in Vietnam. Ms Bowerman's friend, Canadian Cathy Huynh, 26, died a couple of days after Ms Bowerman, suffering similar symptoms.

    As with the deaths of Belanger sisters Audrey, 20, and Noemi, 26, in June and with the 2009 deaths on Phi Phi of American Jill St Onge, 27, and Norwegian Julie Bergheim, 22, families and friends are still looking for answers.

    That's also the case in the Downtown Inn mystery of 2011, when New Zealander Sarah Carter, 23, died in Chiang Mai, becoming the best-known of four more unexplained deaths in Thailand.

    ''I've wanted to make an impact and do something nice in Kari's memory since this horrific experience occurred,'' Von Seth wrote to Phuketwan.

    ''I had the idea of starting an organisation to support, educate and impact all types of travelers worldwide.

    ''Protected Travels is a supportive global community eager to educate and make a positive impact on challenges facing travelers abroad. We've been successful in attracting close to 5000 fans since September 5.''

    Ryan Kells, the boyfriend of Jill St Onge, told Phuketwan recently that he fears there will continue to be mystery deaths of this kind until authorities come up with some answers.

    Although Ryan also became ill, he survived while Ms St Onge died. He puts this down simply to having spent much less time in the room at the Phi Phi guesthouse where the couple fell sick.

    There is no obvious link between the deaths, other than they are all mysterious, unsolved and recent.

    In September,another young New Zealander, Michael Denton, 29, diede mysteriously, this time in Bali.

    A coroner concluded that his death was due to consumption of the local drink, arak, which is usually high in alcohol content but can also easily be contaminated.

    Protected Travels aims to make people aware of the dangers of travel and, as a legacy to some of the victims, perhaps shed some fresh light on possible causes.

    The site has Phuketwan's support and the support of others more closely affected by the mysterious deaths.

    ''I hope Protected Travels will inform young travelers about the dangers that may occur and places they should stay away from. I also wish Protected Travels will tell the world about the tragedies that happened with Julie and all the other victims. In the end, I hope their deaths will be properly investigated in order to bring justice to all the victims.''
    Ina Thoresen (mother of Julie Bergheim)

    ''Protected Travels is a vehicle to get information out to the public, educate of the hidden dangers while traveling abroad, an outlet to provide a helping hand, a common ground for families who have been directly affected by a tragedy to a loved one while on foreign soil. It is human nature to want to travel, explore, experience new lands, people, cultures???it should be safe to do so as this world is all for us to share.''
    Jennifer Jaques (sister of Kari Bowerman)

    ''As a traveler myself, I would like PT to help in raising awareness to young travelers of the dangers that can happen. Through the experience of other travelers that may have faced dangers, and also stories of those that no longer have a voice and lost a life in their travels, I hope we can educate, promote and discuss how to travel safe.''
    Jetty Ly (best friend of Cathy Huynh)

    ''What I hope Protected Travels will achieve is; not putting the fear in traveling abroad but rather equip and provide more awareness for travelers. From my personal experience of losing a love one abroad, I wish there were more helpful communities like this one. Let this be an avenue to share, educate, and reflect ones experiences so that others may learn from it. After all, these tragic losses came from travelers wanting to experience different cultures and share with the rest of us. So let's gather and unite to prevent this from being someone else's last journey.''
    Michael Huynh (brother of Cathy Huynh)

    Phi Phi, Vietnam, Thai Mystery Deaths Remain Open - Phuket Wan

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    in order to make an impact, it would be good to collect the evidence... each police force/parents/family are in the know what was specific to their cases, but the overview, the common aspects of the cases, the overall picture, nobody really puts together?

    we - outside - dont even know, what their symptoms were, how it began, how it felt, if it started differently with each other, how then...

    there were survivors... and they can tell a lot - what food they had, what drinks, drugs if any... what were their thoughts, why did they think they got sick, why didnt they call a doctor...?

    im looking forward, what they want to "inform about"...
    oh, 5000 fans already...

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    From CBC News site today:

    A Quebec coroner is challenging the autopsy findings of Thai officials that ruled two Quebec sisters found dead in their hotel room in June were accidentally poisoned.
    Coroner Renée Roussel told Radio-Canada the concentration of the chemical DEET in the sisters' system wasn't enough to be fatal.
    That contradicts the conclusion of Thai authorities, who performed post-mortems on the bodies of Noémi Bélanger, 25, and Audrey Bélanger, 20, shortly after the sisters were found on June 15 by hotel staff.
    A pathologist determined the women likely ingested DEET, a principal ingredient in bug repellant, in a euphoria-inducing cocktail that is popular among youth in Thailand.

    Dr. René Blais of Quebec's poison control centre said the DEET concentration reported by the Thai pathologist doesn't correspond to a concentration that would be toxic, "let alone a concentration that would be fatal."
    It's still unclear what caused their deaths if it wasn't DEET poisoning.

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    Sisters' deaths in Thailand not from DEET, Quebec coroner says






    A Quebec coroner is challenging the autopsy findings of Thai officials that ruled two Quebec sisters found dead in their hotel room in June were accidentally poisoned.

    Coroner Renée Roussel told Radio-Canada the concentration of the chemical DEET in the sisters' systems wasn't enough to be fatal.


    That contradicts the conclusion of Thai authorities, who performed post-mortems on the bodies of Noémi Bélanger, 25, and Audrey Bélanger, 20, shortly after the sisters were found on June 15 by hotel staff.


    A pathologist determined the women likely ingested DEET, a principal ingredient in bug repellant, in a euphoria-inducing cocktail that is popular among youth in Thailand.


    The sisters from Pohénégamook, Que., had just arrived on Thailand's Phi Phi Island and were last seen partying with two Brazilian friends in the early morning of June 13.


    Investigators said there were no signs of foul play in their hotel room, but there was evidence that the women may have suffered some kind of toxic reaction.


    DEET levels not fatal

    Dr. René Blais of Quebec's poison control centre said the DEET concentration reported by the Thai pathologist doesn't correspond to a concentration that would be toxic, "let alone a concentration that would be fatal."


    It's still unclear what caused their deaths if it wasn't DEET poisoning.
    Secondary autopsies were conducted in Montreal, but the results haven't been released.


    Thai investigators haven't closed the case. They submitted their investigation report to the Canadian Embassy in Thailand without making the findings public.
    Other mysterious deaths

    In the last three years, a dozen vacationers have died under suspicious circumstances in tourist areas of Thailand and Vietnam.
    In 2009, two young tourists, one from the United States and the other from Norway, who were staying at a guest house near the hotel where the Bélanger sisters were found, also died under mysterious circumstances.

    Their deaths remain unsolved, but there was speculation the women had been poisoned.



    Sisters' deaths in Thailand not from DEET, Quebec coroner says - Montreal - CBC News
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