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    Thailand: Boxer Buakaw 'has disappeared'

    Fighter Buakaw 'has disappeared' | Bangkok Post: news

    Fighter Buakaw 'has disappeared'

    Well-known Muay Thai boxer and two-time K-1 champ Buakaw Por Pramuk, 29, has mysteriously disappeared from his training camp and has not been seen since last week, his manager Teerapat Rojanatan said Friday.


    SUPERSTAR: Buakaw Por Pramuk, left, is the pride of Thailand and its traditional martial art of Muay Thai.

    Mr Teerapat said Buakaw, a Surin resident who won last year's welterweight Thai Fight grand final on points against Australia's Franki Giorgi, has been missing, along with his new BMW sedan, since March 1.

    He said he was mystified and he did not know why the popular boxer would have left the training camp.

    "Buakaw has never acted like this before, and as for the money issue, I've never left him unpaid. I always paid him.

    "I want him back quickly. His disappearance will hurt him in the end because I've now cancelled many of his events," said the manager.

    These included Buakaw's scheduled matches in England and France.

    Buakaw's sister Kanyarat Banchamek, 40, said she first knew her brother was missing when she saw a television news report on Friday morning.

    "If he's safe, he should contact his family because people are worried about him," Mrs Kanyarat said.

    Buakaw's relative Sao Thongdard, 49, said he was concerned for the boxer's safety as he might have a lot of money and there might be people who might have bad intentions towards him.

    Buakaw's father Leng Banchamek, 62, said everyone hoped that nothing bad was happening to Buakaw.

    The YouTube video clip, uploaded by vg2135 and pasted below, shows Buakaw's rigorous training and bouts with different fighters throughout his career.


    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    he coulda beena contender.

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    blinding fighter Buakow, I not seen him for real but seen a lot of footage of him, he's incredibly powerful.

    Hope he turns up unscathed ..

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    Buakaw 'worn out' 'taking a break'

    note: this article posted to Bangkok Post about 4 hours later than above article

    Missing fighter Buakaw 'worn out' | Bangkok Post: news Missing fighter Buakaw 'worn out'


    Well-known Muay Thai boxer and two-time K-1 champ Buakaw Por Pramuk has disappeared from his training camp because of chronic injury and feelings of fatigue, his manager said Friday.
    SUPERSTAR: Buakaw Por Pramuk, left, is the pride of Thailand and its traditional martial art of Muay Thai.

    Teerapat Rojanatan insisted he did not have any conflict with Buakaw and his disappearance had nothing to do with financial issues or a lapse in discipline by the Muay Thai great.

    Chronic physical pain and fatigue were the reason the fighter left, said Mr Teerapat.

    "Buakaw has suffered chronic injury but he is well-disciplined and so determined in his training routines that I cannot help worrying about him," he said.


    Buakaw, a Surin resident who won last year's welterweight Thai Fight grand final on points against Australia's Franki Giorgi, has been missing, along with his new BMW sedan, since March 1, according to Mr Teerapat.

    Mr Teerapat earlier said he was mystified and did not know why the popular boxer would have left the camp without telling him.

    He said Buakaw had received many invitations sent by respected and powerful figures to appear at social events. Rejecting those invitations due to Buakaw’s already tight schedule often made him and the boxer feel uncomfortable.

    "I don’t want to say anything much about this because I fear this issue will escalate. But I want to explain that those 'Khun Khor Ma' (You ask for it) programmes have made us feel uncomfortable several times," he said.

    Buakaw’s manager also denied reports that there had been a rift among staff in the Por Pramuk camp after Theerapat Yewyim, a physical therapist, resigned.


    He said Theerapat was one of the best physical therapists in Thailand and his resignation was a result of a disagreement over work methods, not personal conflict.

    The manager also said earlier that money was not an issue.

    "Buakaw has never acted like this before, and as for the money issue, I've never left him unpaid. I always paid him," said Mr Teerapat.

    "I want him back quickly. His disappearance will hurt him in the end because I've now cancelled many of his events."

    These included Buakaw's scheduled bouts in England and France.

    Buakaw's sister Kanyarat Banchamek, 40, said she first learned that her brother was missing when she saw a television news report on Friday morning.

    "If he's safe, he should contact his family because people are worried about him," Mrs Kanyarat said.

    Buakaw's relative Sao Thongdard, 49, said he was concerned for the boxer's safety as he might have a lot of money and there might be people who might have bad intentions toward him.

    Buakaw's father Leng Banchamek, 62, said everyone hoped that nothing bad was happening to his son.

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    About 5 or 6 years ago I attended a muay Thai event in Pattaya, one of the feature events of the night being an ex-champ, quite a legend apparently, who was being 'drawn out of retirement' to stage an exhibition match. Still impressive looking, he came out swinging, lasted about 90 seconds, and was down for the count, semi conscious. The bloke I was with- himself a muay Thai fighter, told me about him, this ex-champ who's fame was international. He was a shambles- lao khao sodden, drug addicted, broke, living in squalor. Like a few prize farangs in Pattaya, he was basically being fed by the kindness of bar girls. Sure, he had lived well during his years at the top- wine, women and adulation- but in reality, had earned next to nothing, had nothing to show for it once he was past his peak. The money is controlled by the manager, you see. Once he stopped winning, he was thrown on the scrap heap like the rest of them, and forgotten except for his fan base.

    Contrast that to boxing, where champ's earn multi millions for a single match, or a product endorsement. In Thailand, besides when they are paraded out for public display, their life is more like a convict- non stop training camps, and you are basically owned by the Boss- who is not necessarily the manager, but almost definitely a mafia or 'nak leng' figure. You do what the boss says- including losing when required- because your life and career depend on it. To say they are exploited is an understatement. Apparently, the big money in muay Thai is in the gambling and promotion- controlled and rigged, of course, by mafia types. They even lent money to these fighters at usurious rates, while they often went unpaid for exhibition matches.

    I hope these superb athletes- who's skill and physical regime matches that of a top professional boxer- are treated more fairly these days, but TIT and I doubt it. The bloke may well have very sound reasons to be in hiding. Unrelated, but I also know a bloke around here, ex-top muay Thai boxer, fought at Lumpinin and all that, cabinet full of medals and gongs, who now lives in a small village near us, runs a humble shop/ restaurant, and teaches local kids muay Thai. He got out, he says, because the sport is so filthy.
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    ^I've heard (and this is purely speculation) that he's in dispute with his gym over money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    . To say they are exploited is an understatement. Apparently, the big money in muay Thai is in the gambling and promotion- controlled and rigged, of course, by mafia types. They even lent money to these fighters at usurious rates, while they often went unpaid for exhibition matches.

    ... Unrelated, but I also know a bloke around here, ex-top muay Thai boxer, fought at Lumpinin and all that, cabinet full of medals and gongs, who now lives in a small village near us, runs a humble shop/ restaurant, and teaches local kids muay Thai. He got out, he says, because the sport is so filthy.
    Thanks for enlightening us on that. I've heard stories of ex Thai fighters and their noodle carts but I didn't know it was that bad.

    Buakaw has won so many titles, including 2004 and 2006 K-1 World MAX championship, which involves fighting many of the world's best fighters in grueling tournaments.

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    mate of mine (a farang) whos a highly accomplished fighter tells of the time he fought at Lumphini against the then champion at his weight, beat him and was that skint that he had to walk home after..

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    I sure hope not because when a guy with MMA knowledge comes on its going to be different. I am not that guy but I do know he still trained at a gym on the river that looked like shit. This is a bigger story outside of Thailand than in. He trained here but made his big bucks from K1 in Japan, when it went under he could still find fights for double and triple what a Thai boxing champion gets.

    Just go on you tube an look at some of his knock outs. Very strange indeed.

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    ^^ Did your friend say he beat a current Champ at Lumpini? Not sure if a faring has ever done that.

    ^ Which knock outs are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buksida View Post
    ^^ Did your friend say he beat a current Champ at Lumpini? Not sure if a faring has ever done that.
    His name's Damien Trainor

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiLeakHunt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Buksida View Post
    ^^ Did your friend say he beat a current Champ at Lumpini? Not sure if a faring has ever done that.
    His name's Damien Trainor
    Tae Kwon Do expert isn't he? I was in Kingmaker with him about seven years ago/

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    you might be mixing him up with someone else, as far as I know Damien isn't Tae Kwon Do, though I could be wrong..

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    I am shocked to hear about Buakow. I and the girlfriend (at the time) went to his gym to meet him in 2010. He was a very humble, pleasant guy. He took the time out of his training to take photographs with us both, which I thought was very nice of him. I got the impression that he took his training seriously. I fear something has happened to him because I don't think he would have just 'stopped' his training. According to the news, he earned a million baht per fight (of which his trainers got half) and was scheduled for 2 fights this month. I don't think he would have just decided to go off on a holiday.

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    from muaythaionline.org

    The Real Deal

    Muaythai Superfights
    A major muaythai event will be staged at Aston Villa Leisure Centre on the 18th November. An event of this magnitude has not been seen in the UK since Carter Wong's Fights Of The Century, which was staged at the same venue in 1999. A team of top Thaiboxers from the famous Pinsinchai Camp in Bangkok will travel to England to pit their skills against our best. The main event will see WAKO-PRO World Champion Peter Crooke face former Rajadamnern Stadium Champion Sankheng Pinsinchai who has a record of 110 fights 90 wins 15 losses 5 draws. Sankheng defeated Kongnapa to win the Rajadamnern Title. Crooke has defeated Thailand's Suraphong and Kunphon but Sankheng will be his toughest test to date.

    European Champion Damien Trainor will face Thailand Pinsinchai who has a record of 129 fights 84 wins 36 losses and 9 draws, he defeated the famous Sukothai Taximeter to win the Rajadamnern Stadium title. Trainor lost to Thai legend Wang Chan Noi last year but is more determined than ever to make his mark at World class level.

    The third superfight will be Thai versus Thai, the promoters are offering UK Muaythai fans who have yet to make a trip to Thailand the opportunity to watch two Muaythai experts in action end experience some of the atmosphere of a stadium match. Tha Thaiboxers have been specially selected and a re both very skilful. Extra Pinsinchai who has a record of 105 fights 70 wins 35 losses, the current Rangsit stadium champion, will face Captain Kang Nahlupie who has a record of 80 fights 70 wins 10 losses. It is expected that both fighter will use the full muaythai arsenal. A strong supporting card if promised and will feature the best of British Muaythai.

    This spectacular promotion is being put together by Birmingham based Warren Smith a karate blackbelt who has been training in muaythai for the last two year. After several training trips to Thailand he fell in love with the country and its martial art and he also formed a friendship with Major General Pinsinchai a former Thaiboxer who founded the famous Pinsinchai Boxing Camp in Bangkok more than 25 years ago. He has produced many stadium champions including Weelachart, Pompayak, Sankheng, Thailand and Berlerk, the most famous Pinsinchai Champion is Sanchern who was voted the best Thaiboxer in Thailand. A great honour when you consider the number of Thaiboxers competing in Thailand. Pinsinchai popularly known as Asawindam (The Black Knight) is a Major General in Thailand's police force commanding one of the Northen Provinces. Along with running his camp and his police duties Major General Pinsinchai is an experienced and successful promoter. For many years he's staged events at Rajadamnern Stadium before moving to the Imperial where he established the channel 9 stadium. His championship events had attracted major sponsors including the Isuzu and Ford motor companies. Warren Smith and Major General Pinsinchai have worked together with the single aim of staging a quality Muaythai event in the UK and will deliver the "Real Deal" on the 18th November at Aston Villa Leisure Centre in Birmingham. Showsport International the UKs leading promoters have been brought in to co-ordinate the promotion, their experience in handling major events will guarantee a flawless professional presentation. For more information Tel: 0870 442 8986.

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    ^Trainor never beat a current Lumpini champ at Lumpini. Beating a former champ outside of Thailand is quite a bit different.

    Sorry if it seems pedantic, just that there are a lot of misconceptions about how farang fighters match up against Thais. There are very few farangs who could compete with Thais at lower weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buksida
    There are very few farangs who could compete with Thais at lower weights.
    Pound-for-pound it's nearly impossible for a farang to compete (Ramon Dekkers is one foreigner I can recall who had success in Lumpini, though overall he was 11-16 against Thai opponents) at higher levels (at the club level you see a lot of foreigner victories)- the Thais are just too damned good at defense (where most foreigners are too offense-orientated- that's fine for the street, but the ring is different), and they wear you down in the early rounds by absorbing everything you throw at them, and then they kick your ass in the later rounds- I've seen many Thais give up quite a bit of weight and still win their fights against foreigners.

    Buakaw is just an animal- he has more knock-out power with his left (weaker) hand than any other Thai fighter I've ever seen, and his kicks are paralyzing- he's getting on a bit (29, old for a Muay Thai fighter)- hopefully he turns up safe and sound somewhere.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buksida View Post
    ^Trainor never beat a current Lumpini champ at Lumpini. Beating a former champ outside of Thailand is quite a bit different.

    Sorry if it seems pedantic, just that there are a lot of misconceptions about how farang fighters match up against Thais. There are very few farangs who could compete with Thais at lower weights.
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    Liam Harrison is a legend as is Richard Caddon. Trained with both at Jitti Gym, Ratchada.

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    I believe I met you there once in 2007,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiLeakHunt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Buksida View Post
    ^Trainor never beat a current Lumpini champ at Lumpini. Beating a former champ outside of Thailand is quite a bit different.

    Sorry if it seems pedantic, just that there are a lot of misconceptions about how farang fighters match up against Thais. There are very few farangs who could compete with Thais at lower weights.
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    How's his record fighting in Bangkok stadiums? Ever beaten anyone ranked?

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    I've not been in touch with him lately but I know he's fought Saenchai and Anuwat twice, Namphon PK Stereo, Bovy and Kaew Fairtex. He was voted the Sportswriters best farang in about 2007 or 2008 and I have a feeling he was ranked top 10 at one of the stadiums in around 2009 but I can't find any records of that.
    I know at times it can be very hard for a farang to sway the judges and a few times I saw him win the fight but not get the decision..

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    Buakaw: Criticism hurt me | Bangkok Post: breakingnews

    Buakaw: Criticism hurt me


    Muay Thai superstar Buakaw Por Pramuk said on Monday he disappeared from his training camp because he felt "slighted" by a painful remark there.

    The two-time K-1 champ made the comment during an appearance on a television talk show on Media News Channel (cable TV), his first interview since he left the camp on March 1.

    During the interview, Buakaw apologised to his fans and admitted there had been some "chronic problems" going on at the camp. The main problem involved the change of camp owner, from Pramuk Rojanaton to his son, Theerapat.


    Buakaw Por Pramuk

    He said he felt slighted after learning that a “poolak pooyai” (a person of importance) in the camp complained that he was having a “serious headache and a heavy heart because of Buakaw". He said he could not stand such a painful remark because he had been honest with the camp through the years.

    The popular boxer insisted the reason he left the camp had nothing to do with money or women.

    He said he wanted to stop working for the time being and would return to the camp when he felt physically and mentally relaxed.

    He refused to reveal his whereabouts and only said he was in the most comfortable place.

    Buakaw's friend Kompayak Por Pramuk, who is a world boxing champion, and his manager Pramuk Rochanatan on Sunday said Buakaw was in Bangkok and needed time to solve his personal problems.

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