Thread: 2 passports

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

So, you can enter Oz on an Oz passport? (OK so far) and leave on a Brit one (for example)? Without showing the Oz one....? Really?

Yes, quite definitely and visa versa.

Q9 - I have an Australian passport and a British passport; which passport do I use when entering Australia?
To avoid delays at airline check-in and again at the border entry point, Australian citizens who are dual nationals are required to depart and enter Australia on their Australian passport. An Australian citizen cannot be granted a visa for Australia in a foreign passport.
When entering Australia, all Australians, including those who hold dual nationality, must be able to prove that they are an Australian citizen. An Australian passport is conclusive evidence of a person's identity and citizenship, and provides the holder with unfettered right of entry to Australia.
International airlines have an obligation to ensure that they only carry appropriately documented passengers to Australia. In the absence of an Australian passport, airlines are unable to assess a person's claim to Australian citizenship at the time of check-in and may decline to carry the traveller.

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And if you've got a permanent resident stamp in your brit passport ?

I'm led to believe that your Australian visa becomes invalid in whatever passport it happens to be located in once you apply for Aus citizenship.

In the case of the UK, If you hold an UK ILR or other visa they should be cancelled when the applicant is granted citizenship.




You should of course refer to your own definitive source of information. I must say I thought that you were already assured of what was likely to happen - given that it may not, human error etc.

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

You should of course refer to your own definitive source of information

You may be right, but you're pretty convincing. Perhaps I'll just quote you next week in Darwin.

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Example....Leave Indo on Indo passport and enter Singers on UK - no

Nonsense, my wife and children have done it many times without question.

Friends of ours live in Singapore on UK passports and travel to thailand 6 times a year on thai Passports. Again no bother.

Both been doing it for 6 years.

maybe someone just didn't like you.

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Try and Enter Singers on one passport and enter on another...it won't happen.

That statement doesn't make sense however if you mean enter on one and exit on another, then true, that is common sense and not what is being discussed.

i once flew to hongkong with canada passport, at the land border i change to china passport to enter mainland china, but not allowed, the immigration or who maybe policeman took me into a samll room and inspected houres, its ridiculous but that what happened to me, so i have to use my japan passport for free enter the red china. i tried japan pass from bangkok to tokyo, thats no question at all. i remembered that i do pay some extra money to thai embassy in cambodia, they finally charged me 60 us dollors for a single entry tourist visa, even i have no documents provided as requested. eh, i think sometimes money really works in asian countries.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Example....Leave Indo on Indo passport and enter Singers on UK - no

Nonsense, my wife and children have done it many times without question.

Friends of ours live in Singapore on UK passports and travel to thailand 6 times a year on thai Passports. Again no bother.

Both been doing it for 6 years.

maybe someone just didn't like you.

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Try and Enter Singers on one passport and enter on another...it won't happen.

That statement doesn't make sense however if you mean enter on one and exit on another, then true, that is common sense and not what is being discussed.

Not the same, please try to keep up. Thailand probably won't care certainly. Please take the trouble to read. Leave Indo of Indo passport and enter Singapore on UK passport will cause issues, but then, one would expect that.

I bet your friends didn't try to leave Singapore on the Thai passport though did they? Why not suggest they try that? Actually your statement is almost certainly not true - your friends travel to Thailand exiting Singers on Brit passports - the one with their leave to stay stamp in it, or maybe they have e-gate passes, only when they get to Thailand do they enter using their Thai passports.

Let me know how they get on leaving Singapore on their Thai passports.

I do hope that your wife hasn't left Indonesia on her UK passport and entered on her Indo one - and at best, the kids have only been doing it for 3 years ;-}

This isn't about what you may get away with if you try it on, it's about what you won't get in shit doing.

You tell your misses to be careful with that red passport now. I watched an Indo girl walk into the KBRI London to renew her green passport, quite funny really she was dumb enough to draw her UK passport out at the same time, they retained her green passport and her citizenship - sorry to waffle, just a little story.

Originally Posted by phunphin

when I got thai visa in my UK passport , I left NZ on NZ passport and entered thailand on UK passport..as I had departure stamp from last visit.

and then leave on UK passport and re-enter NZ on NZ passport, as long as your PP shows a point on departure it does not matter where you end up.
As all immigration networks are linked, the fact you have 2 passports will show up.

The bit about point of departure I 100% agree on, as for all the immigration networks being networked, not a chance. As a non tourist visa holder in Indonesia, if you need a new passport, you only send a copy of the front page with the application, it is your own responsibility to cancel your own passport by cutting the corners off - supposedly they cancel it electronically, which they may do, but it still scan through Singers, Indo, China, Malaysia and India - so there is no way that the Information is shared, not least at that level.

Also having watched "Border Control" or some some shite about Australian immigration, they had no way of seeing who held an Italian passport, if the name tied up with the number.

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Why not suggest they try that?

Why would I need to suggest anything to people who plainly know what they are doing?

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Let me know how they get on leaving Singapore on their Thai passports.

Why would they do that? That would be stupid.

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

I do hope that your wife hasn't left Indonesia on her UK passport and entered on her Indo one

She's not an Indo and neither is the opening poster, nor is he going to Singapore, so if you comments only relate to Singapore / Indo travel they are irrelevant and pointless.

Frankly, who gives a fuck anbout Indonesia and Singapore on a Thai forum?

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Why not suggest they try that?

Why would I need to suggest anything to people who plainly know what they are doing?

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Let me know how they get on leaving Singapore on their Thai passports.

Why would they do that? That would be stupid.

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

I do hope that your wife hasn't left Indonesia on her UK passport and entered on her Indo one

She's not an Indo and neither is the opening poster, nor is he going to Singapore, so if you comments only relate to Singapore / Indo travel they are irrelevant and pointless.

Frankly, who gives a fuck anbout Indonesia and Singapore on a Thai forum?

Bob, you're talking out of your hoop here - telling half a story.

Example....Leave Indo on Indo passport and enter Singers on UK - no
Nonsense, my wife and children have done it many times without question.

Who gives a fuck about your wife on a non Indo forum in that case? If she is not an Indo then why make that statement? FFS keep up Bob, there is a good chap.

Quite a fucking twatish comment really Bob, by your reckoning then only a canadian chinese who seems to also hold a jap passport is qualified to post in this thread?

There is a whole section dedicated to non Thai issues - someone clearly thought that these were worthy of space on a Thai forum -

555...calm down son....you're making your blood pressure rise unecessarily.....

Granted once you clarified you were talking about a specific non related example I popped my prayer mat down and paid homage to you, the oracle, master of all things immigration between two countries not related to this great forum.

You're a class act, I can say nothing more despite your rambling nonsensical posts.



















Literacy a problem where you come from?

However, having clarified that you are the All Seeing Wonderbeast of immigration between two countries not related to the post or the forum, lets see how the conversation went....

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Originally Posted by morie

he seriously told me, that you cant have 2 pass while you in thailnd.

He's wrong.

You can't travel on two. Whatever passport you start a journey on, you should finish on.

Example....Leave Indo on Indo passport and enter Singers on UK - no
Try and Enter Singers on one passport and enter on another...it won't happen.
I have 2 UK and one other passport - tried it once and it's a quick way to spend time answering lots of questions in a small office.

So the jandjoy said the info given about two passports in Thailand was wrong, meaning it is acceptable. Note the discussion was about (in general) two passports (and specificly) in Thailand.

Your response was

"You can't travel on two. Whatever passport you start a journey on, you should finish on."

Which is incorrect (your first error).....you can. Perfectly legitimatel. Except of course between Indo and Singapore, which we know 100% because you (the oracle) have told us.

At this point you offered this as an example......note the wotd in my sentence and in your post, example..... not a discussion about that particular journey, but as an example as to why people could not travel on two passports.

See where I'm going here?

I then offered up two examples between Thailand and Singapore that proved it was no problem. Not only good examples, but related to the original statement and question about T-H-A-I-L-A-N-D

So Cocksucker, reign your fucking slime ridden neck in and get off your fucking high horse in regard to all things gospel about a journey you youself only offered up as an example.

Geddit yet Twat?

Bit of a strange thread this one.

To the OP:

At Thailand's land borders, immigration officers don't like the 'passport swap' trick, on either side. Exit Thailand on the Chinese PP, the Cambo immigration is going to want to see the exit stamp in the Chinese PP. You'll struggle to get stamped in on the Canadian passport.

At airports they don't care. Lots of countries don't stamp out their nationals, so best to fly down to Singapore for the day on a cheap flight and then come back, using your Canadian passport to re-enter.

As for Singapore. I've flown from Indo to Singapore, exiting Indo on my Thai passport and entering Sing on my OZ passport. No sweat.

I've also entered Sing on my Thai passport having left OZ on my OZ passport. Again no sweat.

Done the above multiple times.

I'm sure now I'll be asked to keep up (FFS). So I look forward to those words of wisdom

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Originally Posted by DrAndy

you must leave on the passport that you have a visa in you can then enter Cambodia on the new passport (you may have to give the guy some cash so there are no arguments, but it is legal to do that) you then leave Cambodia on the new passport and enter Thailand with it this may not work with the day visa trip, so you may have to get a proper Cambodian (or Laos or ...) visa to enter and leave

Having just got off the phone to my mate that knows, I must say you seem to have summed it up nicely Andy.

I have done it before, no problems

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

but it ain't "legal" (whatever legal may be)

legal means within the law of that particular country

How many of you have received an exit stamp when leaving the UK on a UK passport?

Many times that I have exited the UK there is nobody on the exit desk. When they are, if a UK passport is waved at the immigration officer a wave through is all that happens.

Returning to the UK, on a UK passport, a swipe through and maybe a polite question is usual.

Originally Posted by OhOh

How many of you have received an exit stamp when leaving the UK on a UK passport?

Never, methinks.

But I reckon it gets swiped in and out.

I can't remember having ever had a UK stamp in my passport.

Funniest one we ever had was leaving the UK to come to this job in Thailand.

It was at a time when security was very tight at LHR.

We checked in, past through the first passport check and as we approached immigration we realised that my sons UK passport had expired. I nearly shit myself. I pulled out his Thai passport and handed it over and he left the UK on it. Never entered on it and never got an exit stamp in it. Just waved through.

just a quick question on this two passport subject, my wife and daughter both have Uk and Thai passports. from reading this thread am I correct in thinking that they can leave the UK with their uk passports and enter Thailand with their Thai passports?

Yes, no bother, been doing it for years.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Returning to the UK, on a UK passport, a swipe through and maybe a polite question is usual.

Yet some people think you are subjected to a Person's Check and screened on the UK Police wanted persons database as well as your full criminal record being displayed amongst other things.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

However, having clarified that you are the All Seeing Wonderbeast of immigration between two countries not related to the post or the forum, lets see how the conversation went....

Originally Posted by Stalking Tosser

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Originally Posted by "morie"

he seriously told me, that you cant have 2 pass while you in thailnd.

He's wrong.

You can't travel on two. Whatever passport you start a journey on, you should finish on.

Example....Leave Indo on Indo passport and enter Singers on UK - no
Try and Enter Singers on one passport and enter on another...it won't happen.
I have 2 UK and one other passport - tried it once and it's a quick way to spend time answering lots of questions in a small office.

So the jandjoy said the info given about two passports in Thailand was wrong, meaning it is acceptable. Note the discussion was about (in general) two passports (and specificly) in Thailand.

Your response was

"You can't travel on two. Whatever passport you start a journey on, you should finish on."

Which is incorrect (your first error).....you can. Perfectly legitimatel. Except of course between Indo and Singapore, which we know 100% because you (the oracle) have told us.

At this point you offered this as an example......note the wotd in my sentence and in your post, example..... not a discussion about that particular journey, but as an example as to why people could not travel on two passports.

See where I'm going here?

I then offered up two examples between Thailand and Singapore that proved it was no problem. Not only good examples, but related to the original statement and question about T-H-A-I-L-A-N-D

So Cocksucker, reign your fucking slime ridden neck in and get off your fucking high horse in regard to all things gospel about a journey you youself only offered up as an example.

Geddit yet Twat?

Bob, are you a quality educator by chance? Can I ask how the fuck they check on UK visa overstay? Or perhaps they don't. Come now Bob, my wife has IL to stay in the UK, her passport wasn't checked on the way out, when she comes back, how will they know how long she has been away?
Perhaps immigration took a look at Dad and realised the folly of keeping the family back for possible immigration issues. Do try and get the passport renewed before you go back Bob, they may not let you in otherwise.Just out of interest, if you look at the date numbery sort of things in the passport then you can get an idea if it is still valid or not - just a tip there for you Bobbly.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Originally Posted by OhOh

How many of you have received an exit stamp when leaving the UK on a UK passport?

Never, methinks.

But I reckon it gets swiped in and out.

No, it doesn't. It gets stamped back in and no swipe (that I have seen - though my missus never goes through immigration on her own and always through the UK/EU line), but nothing on the way out. How do they know if some stays away longer than the terms of the ILR - 2 years? I have never seen my missus passport swiped - they look at the validity of the new passport and then take a look at the old passport the hold the ILR - nothing else. They charge some huge amount of money (GBP 600 ish??) to transfer the ILR, but confirm that it isn't necessary. We both got the Iris system reg done, and I suspect that is the only way they could tell, assuming you use it.

Interested to hear how any UK citizens living in Thailand get on with renewing a passport in HK, do they ask you to send the old passport or just a copy?