Final crackdown on tourist visas ???

**peterpan** · 17-09-2009, 02:05 AM

If you are under 50 (are you really under 50 dog?

) and supporting a child you will qualify for a Non O.

**oMega** · 17-09-2009, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Originally Posted by buriramboy

I ain't read all the thread (low attention span and all that) but has anyone actually been refused a back to back double entry tourist visa, reason i ask is that i have a mate on his way to Vientienne as we speak with the intention of applying for one as his current one expires in a couple of days?????

EN told us that he and most others he saw got their visas with no trouble-

https://teakdoor.com/1168819-post56.html

So I hope your friend will be all-right, but please let us know how it went for him Buriamboy, the more reports we get on the situation the better

And did he got some TR visas before this one he got now ? . , i have TR visas since 2004 .,hEhE..

**larvidchr** · 17-09-2009, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

^Under 50? Unmarried?

Yes under 50, with no connections to Thailand whatsoever, they do ask what you want to do here, you can say anything like you might want to make some investments at a later date and want to check things out, or you want to travel around in Thailand and visit all the interesting places bla bla bla.

And as PP say's you can get a 1 year non O for supporting a child if you have any of those out here, but if there are other terms in form of income and so on I don't know with that type of case.

**dirtydog** · 17-09-2009, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by peterpan

If you are under 50 (are you really under 50 dog? ) and supporting a child you will qualify for a Non O.

I know what visas I can get

and yes, I am under 50, but there are a hell of a lot of people under 50 non working etc who seem to be having problems, ie when I first moved here I was 26 and had a garaunteed income for 3 years, I was intending staying the 3 years to wait out the recession and then get back to work, ok things turned out a bit different, but must be 1,000s upon 1,000s in that situation.

**larvidchr** · 17-09-2009, 02:59 AM

Yes that's true, I'm not exactly sure why though, don't they want/cant afford to do the trip home? cant they prof a regular income from outside Thailand? have they trouble with the criminal record?

I don't know but there are many under 50 with visa problems, maybe they haven't taken the time to find out how to obtain a non O visa, It was the same with the visa runners to Cambodia, instead of going every month with the bus from Patters why did they not take a flight/bus to Laos every 6 month to obtain a double tourist visa instead of having to endure those boring bus trips every month?

**jim1176** · 17-09-2009, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

So I will ask again, what is the proper visa for non working unmarried under 50's who wish to stay in Thailand for any length of time?

Non-Immigrant Visa R multiple

**wefearourdespot** · 17-09-2009, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

It was the same with the visa runners to Cambodia, instead of going every month with the bus from Patters why did they not take a flight/bus to Laos every 6 month to obtain a double tourist visa instead of having to endure those boring bus trips every month?

Because visa runs to Cambodia are organized , they pick you up at your hotel in the morning and take you back there same day by late afternoon, while a trip to Vientiane requires planning , research for air/bus schedules and prices, for hotels , how to get to the embassy without getting ripped off and so on.

**Spin** · 17-09-2009, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Non O multiple entry, which you typically can obtain only in your home country at the Thai embassy there, it involves a check of your criminal record and you must prove a decent regular income from outside Thailand like a pension, some country's Thai embassy's give 1 year and others give only 6 month at a time.

Obtaining a multi entry non-O in the uk does not require a background check and there is no requirment to show any forms of income whatsoever. Only a form that declares you have enough money to pay for your exit from Thailand in the event of problems must be signed.

I dont understand why this would be different for other countries such as yours Lars, given that you are not from the uk?

Also, I never heard of a 6 month multi entry non immigrant visa, in the UK, again why do they do that in other countries??

Originally Posted by larvidchr

so in reality a 1 year multiple entry non O visa would give you around 16-17 months in Thailand.

Whichever way you play it, it's impossible to get more than 15 months from a 1 year multi entry non immigrant visa, that is utilised by visa running every 90 days.

**dirtydog** · 17-09-2009, 04:06 PM

16 months, you forgot the last 30 day extension.

**English Noodles** · 17-09-2009, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

16 months, you forgot the last 30 day extension.

They only ever gave me a 7 day extension on my non 'O', 30 days on a tourist visa.

**Spin** · 17-09-2009, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

16 months, you forgot the last 30 day extension.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

They only ever gave me a 7 day extension on my non 'O'

Oh, ok then. I don't know about that as a would rather cut off one of my balls with a second hand razor blade than go and ask Thai immigration for something.

**aging one** · 17-09-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Spin

Oh, ok then. I don't know about that as a would rather cut off one of my balls with a second hand razor blade than go and ask Thai immigration for something.

well put.

**wefearourdespot** · 17-09-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

16 months, you forgot the last 30 day extension.

I don't think you can extend a 90days O visa , only a 60 days tourist visa can be extended another 30 days. You know how Thais are obsessed with their 90 days thingy ... it seems that starting day 91 each alien undergoes a scary mutation transforming him from a moving ATM into an illegal worker.

**blackgang** · 17-09-2009, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Spin

Oh, ok then. I don't know about that as a would rather cut off one of my balls with a second hand razor blade than go and ask Thai immigration for something.

Wouldn't it be easier and less painful to just cut em both off?
As splitting open the fur bag and fishing one out sounds terribly painful to me.

Not that either option is one I would like to make.

**pickel** · 17-09-2009, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Spin

Obtaining a multi entry non-O in the uk does not require a background check and there is no requirment to show any forms of income whatsoever. Only a form that declares you have enough money to pay for your exit from Thailand in the event of problems must be signed. I dont understand why this would be different for other countries such as yours Lars, given that you are not from the uk?

The consulate in Vancouver doesn't give them out. I've heard England is the easiest place to get them.

**dirtydog** · 17-09-2009, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by wefearourdespot

I don't think you can extend a 90days O visa

How do you think people get to stay for a year?
Yes you can get an extension to stay on a o visa, English noodles probably goes to his immigration office covered in coal dust so only gets 7 days.

**larvidchr** · 17-09-2009, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Spin

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Non O multiple entry, which you typically can obtain only in your home country at the Thai embassy there, it involves a check of your criminal record and you must prove a decent regular income from outside Thailand like a pension, some country's Thai embassy's give 1 year and others give only 6 month at a time.

Obtaining a multi entry non-O in the uk does not require a background check and there is no requirment to show any forms of income whatsoever. Only a form that declares you have enough money to pay for your exit from Thailand in the event of problems must be signed.

I dont understand why this would be different for other countries such as yours Lars, given that you are not from the uk?

Also, I never heard of a 6 month multi entry non immigrant visa, in the UK, again why do they do that in other countries??

Originally Posted by larvidchr

so in reality a 1 year multiple entry non O visa would give you around 16-17 months in Thailand.

Whichever way you play it, it's impossible to get more than 15 months from a 1 year multi entry non immigrant visa, that is utilised by visa running every 90 days.

Hey Spin, in Denmark (that was 2005) when you applied first time for a 1 year non O multiple entry visa at the Thai embassy you signed a document allowing the embassy to contact the Police for a check of your criminal record, they also required you to show some form of proof of funds/regular income so as to ensure you could live in Thailand without working. Getting the visa took a full working week at the embassy explicit for the reason of the background check.

And I have just talked with my Italian friend who told me that he had to sign a paper in Italy to the fact that he had no criminal record when he got his first 90 days non O on reason of marriage to a Thai Girl, and my Swiss friend next door just told me they absolutely refuse to give any non O visas to anybody under 50 unless married no matter what income/pension you have.

So it appears that the rules are applied different in almost every country which in a way is hardly surprising. It is however a bit surprising that they don't use the opportunity in England to check the visa applicants criminal record since it is clearly stated in the visa regulations that they can refuse you a long stay visa if you have been convicted of certain crimes.

**peterpan** · 17-09-2009, 07:10 PM

So it appears that the rules are applied different in almost every country

Thats true enough, I have been getting Multi "o" in Aust for about 10 yrs, at one time they just gave to any one the asked, now they ask for a marriage cert or Childs birth cert, but if you can't produce them, well never mind

and the longest I have ever waited was 15 mins.
Nice people to deal with as well.

**Spin** · 17-09-2009, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

It is however a bit surprising that they don't use the opportunity in England to check the visa applicants criminal record since it is

....clear that most of them that come here are criminal degenerates?

**dirtydog** · 17-09-2009, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

It is however a bit surprising that they don't use the opportunity in England to check the visa applicants criminal record

Why would Thailand want to halve the amount of Brits going to thailand each year

**larvidchr** · 17-09-2009, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by dirtydog

16 months, you forgot the last 30 day extension.

They only ever gave me a 7 day extension on my non 'O', 30 days on a tourist visa.

Originally Posted by wefearourdespot

Originally Posted by dirtydog

16 months, you forgot the last 30 day extension.

I don't think you can extend a 90days O visa , only a 60 days tourist visa can be extended another 30 days. You know how Thais are obsessed with their 90 days thingy ... it seems that starting day 91 each alien undergoes a scary mutation transforming him from a moving ATM into an illegal worker.

I have to say sorry to everybody, it appears I was remembering wrong with the 30 days extension on my old 1 year non O, I had to go and dig out my old passport to get it completely right, it was 14 days extension + another 7 days after every 90 day period, so the 25 October 2005 I got extension until 9 November, same day another extension until 16 November 2005, again on the 10 February 2006 extension until 26 of February, on the 27 of February extension until 5 of March, starting same procedure on the 2 June 2006 and so on all year.

So all in all it gave you 15 month on a one year non O, not 16 as I wrote first, yet again sorry but i am getting old and confused with all the different changes all the time. So the above is how a one year Non O visa from the Thai embassy in Denmark for somebody under 50 with absolutely no connections to Thailand worked out.

details

**dirtydog** · 17-09-2009, 07:41 PM

Theoretically 15 months and 3 weeks you would have had.

**English Noodles** · 17-09-2009, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Theoretically 15 months and 3 weeks you would have had.

If he entered Thailand the same day the visa was issued in Denmark.

**the dogcatcher** · 17-09-2009, 08:18 PM

Consulate in Hull are brilliant. No questions asked. I even wrote that my reason for wanting to go to Thailand was that I live there. There's a really good website about visas, but I can't remember the name.

**English Noodles** · 17-09-2009, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by the dogcatcher

Consulate in Hull are brilliant. No questions asked. I even wrote that my reason for wanting to go to Thailand was that I live there.

They are for now, probably won't be for ever though with people shouting off like this all over the internet.

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