Thread: Sending your passport home to get a new visa?

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Only the currently active passport.

Your giving out some bad legal advice here.

Cheers Bob.

The only law you are breaking is in Laos

That's what I suspect. But admitedly am not a immigration lawyer.

Aw fck it.

Go for your life. post it off and enjoy.



or not.

"Up to you"

I agree, it's definitely illegal, but I bet there's a good chance you'd get away with it.

Give it a go, could be fun

Originally Posted by Bobcock

really thety are jealous and wish they could have the opportunity to do such things themselves, but their fear and lack of resources prohibit this.

Lets get something straight here, if anyone lacks resources here its the OP, by the looks of things most folks on teakdoor have ample resources and have not appeared on this forum asking about fcuked up scenarios like the one the OP is describing.
I'm certainly not jealous of anyone who cant be bothered to correctly observe the visa rules of a country they reside in as a visitor.
When I need a new visa I go back home by plane and get one. Others go to Laos or wherever and get theirs in the proper manner with the proper documentation.

Mr. BOBCOCK.

Twaddle, nonsense and bollocks.
The OP asked for advice. He got it. It became clear that he'll do what he wants regardless. Good on him. You, Senor BOBCOCK, are way out of line. Why would any one of us feel

"jealous and wish they could have the opportunity to do such things themselves"

You demonstrate your inadequacies with your statement.

The OP asked for advice.

I think you'll find the OP asked 5 questoins, not for advice.

But to be fair you did kind of answer one.

Still illegal according to my mate in Hull.

In what regard it's 'still illegal according to your mate in Hull', you don't appear to know.

But have still continued to post numerous emoticons, and name calling.

So if you can answer:

So what other official 'illegalities' are there?

Besides posting an active passport across international borders?

Great! If not, thanks for your mate in Hull's indept knowledge on the matter.

Christ you push it don't you?

Too obtuse and far too boring. Do what you like. I really couldn't care less.

I really couldn't care less.

Why would anyone care anymore than that? I'm only asking questions about precise immigration illegalities. Which you don't know about. So thanks for the 10 or so posts.

I don't think you'll get caught, but then again you might. How willing are you to take the risk?

Originally Posted by Megahorn

I think you'll find the OP asked 5 questoins, not for advice.

So sorry. I assumed, in my ignorance, that posing questions and expecting answers was pretty much the same as asking for advice. Obviusly wrong, humble apologies.

Originally Posted by Megahorn

In what regard it's 'still illegal according to your mate in Hull', you don't appear to know.

Read the thread. I quoted a "mate in Hull" hint - Hull = really helpfull Thai Consulate.

Read the thread.

That's it.

Bye.

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Not at all. It's common practice for people of certain occupations to have more than one passport.

Agreed, but posting it across an international border is illegal

hmmm, thinking about this for a while.

I don't think posting a passport across an international border is, per se, illegal. It is, however, illegal to be in a non-resident/non-citzen country without a valid travel document (i.e., your passport with valid travel visa).

But neither of these would overly concern me, as they have little to do with Thailand and are, thus, not relevant [assuming, for the sake of this argument, that the OP were not to be caught in Laos without a valid travel document].

Of concern to me would be the issue of 'fraud'. I thinking by having "his mate" post the document from the UK - rather than himself in Lao - he is giving the impression/representation that he is, himself, in the UK. Clearly this is not the case. In the event that this were checked, this would be fraud.

Overall, this would not be a concern. However, how do you validate a Thai visa (issued in the UK) in a UK passport, while your travel stamp shows you be in Lao? A difficult question to answer.

And not one that may be asked. Until you piss someone off or get pissed in the pub and tell all about how clever you are.

As a final comment to the OP I'll say this: visa runs (and yes, I am old enough to recall the Hole in the Wall days) were clamped down on BIG time by the Thai government for a good reason. Moreover, if you work in an industry that will require background checks (e.g., teaching), then this will show up.

So while you may well get away with this, I for one would not recommend this course of action. The act itself may not be illegal, per se, but the secondary actions certainly are.

And if I were to have decided to do this, I would not have made it public.

excellent post William, as usual

so Megahorn, take the risk and keep us all up to date on your progress!!

entertainment

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Your giving out some bad legal advice here.

No I'm not. I checked with the British Embassy. Now apologise.

Originally Posted by William

I don't think posting a passport across an international border is, per se, illegal. It is, however, illegal to be in a non-resident/non-citzen country without a valid travel document (i.e., your passport with valid travel visa).

Agreed.

Originally Posted by William

Of concern to me would be the issue of 'fraud'. I thinking by having "his mate" post the document from the UK - rather than himself in Lao - he is giving the impression/representation that he is, himself, in the UK. Clearly this is not the case. In the event that this were checked, this would be fraud.

Thousands of international businessmen had better get their secretaries to stop doing it then, even though it is accepted practice.

I thought you're a teacher?

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Your giving out some bad legal advice here.

No I'm not. I checked with the British Embassy. Now apologise.

fat chance!!

no, no Marmite, not you

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by William

Of concern to me would be the issue of 'fraud'. I thinking by having "his mate" post the document from the UK - rather than himself in Lao - he is giving the impression/representation that he is, himself, in the UK. Clearly this is not the case. In the event that this were checked, this would be fraud.

Thousands of international businessmen had better get their secretaries to stop doing it then, even though it is accepted practice.

I could be wrong, but I doubt many of those thousand of international businessmen send their passports to their "mate" to send to the embassy with a UK stamp on the envelope.

I recently needed a passport renewal, now only done in Australia (for Australians) and so was without a passport for a few weeks while embassy posted old passport to Canberra ....

So posting a passport cannot be illegal, at least for an embassy...

I have 2 passports. I am only allowed to have 2 passports if i supply the UK IPS with a letter from my company stating that i regularly need to send one away to get visas while travelling on the other.

Originally Posted by Tao

I am only allowed to have 2 passports if i supply the UK IPS with a letter from my company stating that i regularly need to send one away to get visas while travelling on the other.

Case closed.

So you can send a passport overseas to get visas while in other countries.

As long as you're not breaking that country's laws by being there without a passport while it's being done.

Ever done it with a Thai visa Tao?

Travelling between Thailand and 'Country B':

Got a Thai exit stamp.
Got an entry stamp to Country B.
Have your Thai visa issued from the UK.
Got an exit stamp from country B.
Used the visa issued from the UK, while you were in country B, to enter Thailand and activate the visa?

I've nothing to do with the UK btw but interested in your story Tao.

^but you should get another passport and you need some sort of letter to get that passport.

Only as not to be breaking Country B's laws by being there without a passport it seems.

Weren't you talking a few months ago about topping yourself? now your thinking about taking chances with Thai immigration and maybe getting stuck in a country without a passport..buddy you need to take a little time out and think about where you are going and how to do it right

It stupid, don't do it!