Thread: Thailand to escape harassments?

Ok, so as you know there are a lot of kathooey in Thailand. And as I assume you don't know, I was born with a medical condition. Technically I'm intersex rather than transsexual and certainly not some faggot, and there's my problem; because here I suffer constant abuse, I don't like going outside, when I'm not harassed I still get stigma as though I'm gay & there's even a problem with legal documentation here because of bureaucratic reasons. Besides the fact I'm unsafe there are just bad memories in this country and I just want to disappear, not least to do without the legal identity problem.

But when I came to Thailand for SRS (the surgery) I encountered no such weird looks, no abuse and no bullshit.

If I come over to Thailand, is there a mental health clause to avoid deportation? Just to clarify, I will be planning on an overstay after arrival as the easiest method. How easy is it to find support that I can work and live undocumented without a credit card? Note that I don't mind low status jobs, or low rent accommodation, I just need the bare essentials including a bedroom with aircon and a place to cook and a small fridge, and wifi at least downstairs or round the corner. I don't need cable channels or anything so fancy.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

certainy not a faggot [...] I'm gay

I don't get the distinction you're making (pejorative notwithstanding)?

Don't take the piss.
'I still get stigma, as though I'm gay'
Better?

I just edited me OP just a little to avoid confusion, my tone was intended to be ironic rather than offensive.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Skogsra

Don't take the piss.
'I still get stigma, as though I'm gay'
Better?

Ummm, not really!

Not taking the piss, apologies if it seemed so, I'm genuinely confused. So you're saying that you're not gay?

Hehe no. Just born with an extra chromosome (Kleinfelder's), which caused my life shit. I didn't get the full set of symptoms thank god, with a worse case I could've had heart trouble and freakishly wide hips, as it happens was just petite and girly. A few supposed transsexuals turned out to be intersex - Kayo Sato, Tula, Roberta Close. We often end up in the fashion industry but maybe I'm not that good looking. Kleinfelder's means I have two XX chromosomes but then I won the nasty Y chromosome as well, this means I'm still a 'trap' or worse in real life and I have more confidence online than face to face with others.

People talk about whether you identify male or female... I just wanted all the traumatic shit from my life to go away. Anyone with a bad past of their own should understand there are legitimate reasons for wanting to disappear, things like physical and emotional abuse, and in my case its health and ghosts from people's pasts that were outside their control. The reason I'm mentioning it here is in case there's any support group or anything might help me set up.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Skogsra

Hehe no

Gotcha, apologies for the 'derp' moment. Early afternoon here and my last cup of tea has worn off.

Originally Posted by Skogsra

I just wanted all the traumatic shit from my life to go away, beatings and so on. You probably understand.

Certainly can.

Anyways as regards your specific questions I'm not expert at all regarding visa issues but my gut feeling is that there wouldn't be much - if any - leeway for what you're suggesting. Thai officials are currently in the process of clamping down on visas and overstays (irrespective of the reason).

And not that I'm trying to be negative or anything but I'd also caution against thinking that Thailand is some sort of intersex/transsexual utopia because it isn't really. I think the word 'tolerated' applies but there's definitely still discrimination etc. (albeit less than what you've encountered wherever you are by the sounds of it).

Thanks for the advice, I will ignore the other guy above. I'm asking serious questions about living in Thailand, nothing fancy like a swimming pool just a comfortable hotel room with a single bed or something. My problems come from wiping traces without an offshore bank account.
http://www.lifehack.org/articles/com...-new-life.html

'Roughing it' doesn't really describe my needs for accommodation, its just that low rent housing is likely to be agreed to off the books. The big problem is finding such accommodation off the books because I can bring cash in to withdraw in a lump sum. I have thought about setting up on a few thousand and the big problem is once this initial 15k or so is gone, I know I will be stranded and possibly deported.

I came here because some sites like Thai Visa are a bit censorious about visa and employment stuff, if a bit inconsistently so. Either that or they are just geared to some expat lifestyle like teaching on the beaches not realism about migration. Other than the risks of deportation, the question is does anyone survive a regular life in Thailand working jobs from Craigslist or similar websites as in Europe or the USA. Not 'roughing it' but I don't need a swimming pool or anything, you know. The idea is to lie low permanently on a low budget with local income. A basic life for a Brit includes a bed and a fridge and some option like a microwave, on hot nights also aircon or a good fan. For practicalities there needs to be come internet access nearby if not in the room itself. A quality of life abroad doesn't require a television that's mostly in a foreign language or certain other accessories. If I have internet I can watch television on a laptop or a mobile device if I want to. A hotel room will do, a city condo costs too much for no benefit when small will do and no one needs a gym or a pool if you'd never afford it at home.

Welcome Skogsra.

I hope I'm not being out of place when I say: show us your tits, I mean dick, errm both, ah fuk it, shave your legs, put on a skirt and show us a nice bum picture. Do you have a bumpet?

Finally, and this is my last word on the matter:

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Scandinavian, perchance?...

Part Swedish. But such countries have a high cost of living and many, many rapes people aren't supposed to talk about.

Thanks all of you making useful comments, positive and negative. Any knowledge is helpful if it helps me plan ahead and avoid a future car crash. Thailand seems like an intuitive destination because I speak some Thai and have a little experience with the country though I realize it might not be the best choice. Now I was aware they got much stricter so isn't a lie low hangout anymore, and people from the UK normally fly the opposite way to Suriname nowadays, but still think it worth considering esp with the medical condition and easy healthcare if disaster should strike.

And Betty, if you read my OP I had the op, useless thing anyway. I mentioned it because such a condition and history of abuse might affect the risk of deportation and I hoped to avoid accusations of running from the police or something. People do sometimes deserve offline privacy for legitimate reasons and the UK is turning into a surveillance state now, it might not be comfortable for a lot of us much longer.

Originally Posted by Skogsra

there's my problem

Open up more we're here to help the abused, bodily, thier mind or even voices.

Originally Posted by Skogsra

I suffer constant abuse

You'll get along fine here!

Originally Posted by Skogsra

I still get stigma

You'll go down well with Thais, they like a little mystery about a persons habits and skin markings.

Originally Posted by Skogsra

I just want to disappear,

Fly to Bangkok, take a bus north and jump off anywhere. Keep walking until you find the jungle. You are then lost to the world.

Originally Posted by Skogsra

How easy is it to find support

That's what we do here , support each other.

Originally Posted by Skogsra

I don't mind low status jobs,

Many Cambodians take a different attitude. They're trying to raise them selves from the day labouring role.

Originally Posted by Skogsra

I just need the bare essentials including a bedroom with aircon and a place to cook and a small fridge, and wifi at least downstairs or round the corner

You may find you will be sharing a bed, more than a bedroom.

Originally Posted by Skogsra

ere are legitimate reasons for wanting to disappear, things like physical and emotional abuse, and in my case its health and ghosts from people's pasts that were outside their control. The reason I'm mentioning it here is in case there's any support group or anything might help me

Many here can help with most of those. Ghosts tend to be the domain of wives or girlfriends but they are pretty easy to take care of by the village ghost buster.

Originally Posted by Skogsra

My problems come from wiping traces without an offshore bank account.

Change your cash into gold. No problems exporting from the UK or importing into Thailand. Every Thai village has somebody who will chnage gold into cash. Most Thai ladies will know how to mange a man with a box of gold.

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

if you have plenty of cash, keep your investments safe in your home country

He alleges he doesn't want to be traceable, how he will access his fortune back home if he has "disappeared" or get his monthly prescription for his obvious mental health problems in Thailand may be an issue. We do have a Director of Pharmacy here who may have some advice.

Some photos of your self and places where the stigma are on your body would help.