Thread: Blacklist for Visa Overstays to Launch in March

Boy I'll give you one thing "mykthemin" you sure stick to your "party line" about overstay.

As I said, only time will tell if that shoe or (now that you've gone completely native) that cheap 60 baht flip-flop is ever on your own foot.

Originally Posted by bowie

Some folks just love a challenge.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

So are you one of those that like a challenge Bowie?

Originally Posted by bowie

no...

Shootin the shit.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

Boy I'll give you one thing "mykthemin" you sure stick to your "party line" about overstay.

As I said, only time will tell if that shoe or (now that you've gone completely native) that cheap 60 baht flip-flop is ever on your own foot.

I hate flip flops and I have a plan B if it ever goes tits up, not like most of these losers?

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by toddaniels

"Good guys in, Bad guys out"

A little hypocritical on their part.

Yep, the irony is strong in that..

Overstaying foreigners will face ban from re-entering Thailand

Starting March 20, foreigners who overstay in Thailand for more than 90 days will be banned from re-entering the country as part of the immigration bureau’s new measure to tighten up security against ill-intent elements.

Under the new measure, foreigners overstaying in Thailand who willingly surrender to the authorities will be treated differently from those who are arrested and prosecuted in the way that the period of banning from re-entering will be different.

In case of voluntary surrender, those who overstay for more than 90 days will be banned from re-entering for one year; overstay for more than a year, more than three years and more than five years will face a ban of three, five and ten years respectively.

In case of arrest and prosecution, foreigners who overstay less than one year will face a ban of five years and ten years for overstaying more than a year.

Hotels, apartments, hostels or house owners who rent their houses or rooms to foreigners will be asked to report the stay of foreigners to the nearest immigration offices through the internet so that officials can keep track of their stay in the kingdom.

Overstaying foreigners will face ban from re-entering Thailand - Thai PBS English News

OFF-TOPIC;
Went to Chaengwattana this morning to get a new yearly extension of stay based on being "old".. Got there at 6:40, at 8:30 when they opened I got queue #2 and was done in just over 12 minutes.. (I timed it)..
Unfortunately then I spent the next 2+ hours screwing around with my 90 day report and my new re-entry permit.. All in all it took 6 hours from the time I left the house until I walked back in my door.

However, that's not why I posted this.. Here's the two new banners I saw there today

This is just a re-hash of the overstay penalties that start on the 20 of next month


This is one I hadn't seen before.


It appears they're gonna crack down on another demographic of foreigner. Ones who 'freelance' as models here.

Sheesh, there goes my dental clinic modeling career.. They use my teeth as an example of the "before" pictures.

Honestly, if one wants to understand just why Thailand is such an anachronism in a region that is fast leaving it behind, just take a look at that illegal working poster.
Typical half-arsed, unprofessional and semi-literate crap but hey, it's our country and we don't care.

Did anyone (other than myself) notice that the guy who runs the southern division of thai immigration (Division 6) came out an announced that they're mulling over enforcing the overstay penalties against children? This despite the fact that it's written into the regulations that kids under 18 are NOT subject to these banning/blacklisting penalties?

Of course they were the ones who also came out last year and announced that ALL foreigner must carry their passports. Something which the "powerz-that-be" in Bangkok immediately said was NOT the case at all.

Phuket officials mull including kids caught overstaying visa in blacklist ban | Coconuts Bangkok

C'mon Tod, you know immigration just makes it up as they go along. The regs are just 'guidelines.'

It would seem "Fucket Officials" never did come out an clarify their statement about their mulling.

In other news; I read the other day a foreigner who went to NongKhai (or some other equally nondescript Isaan city), checked into a hotel, only to be woken to a knock on his door in the middle of the night by not one but three immigration officers who proceeded to accuse him of being on overstay.
Turns out the hotel's "desk-cluck" had input his data incorrectly into the online immigration program hotels have to use.

Oh, one more thing, I just had a foreigner go to the airport two nites ago with a 55+ day overstay. He paid the 20K baht fine, received the overstay stamp and was on his way.. I think he flies back today. So, the overstay rules as they are written are at least being enforced somewhere. There is NO black-listing or banning for overstays of under 90 days IF you turn yourself in, which is what I guess you're doing when you're flyin' out..

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

^ I think I met the guy. To cut it short, 10 years ago I got into talking with a guy on a Songtaew in Pattaya. I told him I'd moved out here permanently due to early retirement through ill health. He asked me if I claimed sickness benefits. I said no as I'd reported my move to all government departments.
He told me I was a fool and I should have waited until I was on long term sick whereby you only had to report every 6 month. He then went on to brag that he did 6 months in Pattaya, flies back and signs on, then straight back out here.
Hopefully that scam has been plugged?

I used to play for a Pattaya pub in the local pool league. Four of the guys in the team were on disability benefits. All suffered from back problems. I believe that this scam has now ended and any claimant has to see their doctor at more regular intervals.

I have just found out a friend who was doing a masters degree which he has now completed, this was on an Ed visa, has overstayed his visa by 5 months, he has just realised this and is not sure what to do now. He is thinking of going to Malaysia either flying or by land from the south where he has been living.

A couple of questions.

Would leaving the country by either a land crossing or by air equate to turning himself in ?

Would there be a fine as well as a ban ?

Yes & yes.

gulp.

Originally Posted by birding

Would leaving the country by either a land crossing or by air equate to turning himself in ? Would there be a fine as well as a ban ?

Leaving (or tryin' to leave) by land or air does count towards "turning yourself in".

The fine caps out after 40 day at 20K baht (500baht a day),

An overstay of more than 90 days but less than a year carries a 1 year ban/blacklist when you turn yourself in but getting caught out on it carries a 5 year ban.

My question is, seeing as he'd have had to do 90 day reporting to be here, why didn't he or the immigration officers who took his 90 day report application notice his extension ran out back in August?

In only semi-related news; a foreigner I ran into on a 96 day overstay was adamant that all he had to do was show up at the airport, pay the overstay and he wouldn't be banned/blacklisted.
He did just that, was promptly taken downstairs into the IDC, had his overstay fine processed, had his passport stamped with a one year ban, was escorted to the gate, the immigration officers gave the passport to the airlines and he was told he could collect it when he landed in the UK.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

Originally Posted by birding

Would leaving the country by either a land crossing or by air equate to turning himself in ? Would there be a fine as well as a ban ?

Leaving (or tryin' to leave) by land or air does count towards "turning yourself in".

The fine caps out after 40 day at 20K baht (500baht a day),

An overstay of more than 90 days but less than a year carries a 1 year ban/blacklist when you turn yourself in but getting caught out on it carries a 5 year ban.

My question is, seeing as he'd have had to do 90 day reporting to be here, why didn't he or the immigration officers who took his 90 day report application notice his extension ran out back in August?

In only semi-related news; a foreigner I ran into on a 96 day overstay was adamant that all he had to do was show up at the airport, pay the overstay and he wouldn't be banned/blacklisted.
He did just that, was promptly taken downstairs into the IDC, had his overstay fine processed, had his passport stamped with a one year ban, was escorted to the gate, the immigration officers gave the passport to the airlines and he was told he could collect it when he landed in the UK.

Thanks Todd I have passed that on to him.

Foreigners enrolled at most "real universities" here get a single entry 90 day Non-Immigrant Type ED visa in country issued at the local immigration office (as opposed to private schools here which send students outta the country to get that first Non-ED visa).

When that first 90 day stamp starts to wind down uni-students take documentation to the immigration office and almost all of them get a 9 month extension of stay (which gives them a year from the date they entered)

I have seen some occasions where the documentation from the University states when the term will end and students get extensions up until that date.

Seeing as the universities rarely (as in hardly ever) submit paperwork to the immigration office requesting ED extensions be canceled for their international students when the term ends most of them who get the 9 month extension are totally fine to just remain in thailand until it winds down.

Note that the bit from Ramkhamhaeng Uni posted by Bogon says students need to cancel their extensions NOT the uni.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Can we have a blacklist for people who start new threads for topics there are already several threads about?

94 posts and still climbing, seems like there is a demand.

Originally Posted by birding

Would leaving the country by either a land crossing or by air equate to turning himself in ?

Make friends with a fishing boat captain.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

he was told he could collect it when he landed in the UK.

Lat's hope he did not have to change airlines in the ME.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Lat's hope he did not have to change airlines in the ME.

The immigration officers didn't even HAVE to let him use the flight if it wasn't a direct flight.

About 4 or 5 years ago they deported a brit, but he had a layover in India somewhere. He got off the plane and flew right to Cambodia where AFAIK, he still resides..

That's when they went to confiscating your passport, giving it to who ever is in charge on the airline and making you take a direct flight to the country your passport is from.

I don't know whether the UK guy I referred to had a lay-over or not..