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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    But I have heard that the Embassys are issuing a "A-O Retired visa", you do everything to qualify at your countrys royal Thai embassy and then when you come here it is good for a year instead of 90 days and then extend it, at least that is what a guy that has one told me and he got it in the USA.
    It would be interesting to learn in which countries this one
    can be obtained... USA and???

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    Has it to be the own home country's Thai embassy or consulate?

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    ^^^Immigration office in Samui.
    But this is a very new thing, they have been very strict before and not accepted other hospitals than the government one and suddenly it is not needed at all.
    I guess other immigration offices have the same rules now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietmar
    It would be interesting to learn in which countries this one can be obtained... USA and???
    In your home country only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    I guess other immigration offices have the same rules now.
    Yeah, "guess", and next week it might change again. - fekking morons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietmar View Post
    Has it to be the own home country's Thai embassy or consulate?
    Have a look here.


    Non-Immigrant Visa “O-A” (Long Stay)



    This type of visa may be issued to applicants aged 50 years and over who wish to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 1 year without the intention of working.



    Holder of this type of visa is allowed to stay in Thailand for 1 year. Employment of any kind is strictly prohibited.



    1. Eligibility

    1.1 Applicant must be aged 50 years and over (on the day of submitting application).

    1.2 Applicant not prohibited from entering the Kingdom as provided by the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979).

    1.3 Having no criminal record in Thailand and the country of the applicant’s nationality or residence.

    1.4 Having the nationality of or residence in the country where applicant’s application is submitted.

    1.5 Not having prohibitive diseases (e.g., Leprosy, Tuberculosis, drug addiction, Elephantiasis, third phase of Syphilis) as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No. 14 B.E. 2535.



    2. Required Documents

    - Passport with validity of not less than 18 months.

    - 3 copies of completed visa application forms.

    - 3 passport-sized photos (4 x 6 cm) of the applicant taken within the past six

    months.

    - A personal data form.

    - A copy of bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totalling not less than 800,000 Baht.

    - In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.

    - A letter of verification issued from the country of his or her nationality or residence stating that the applicant has no criminal record (verification shall be valid for not more than three months and should be notarised by notary organs or the applicant’s diplomatic or consular mission).

    - A medical certificate issued from the country where the application is submitted, showing no prohibitive diseases as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No.14 (B.E. 2535) (certificate shall be valid for not more than three months and should be notarised by notary organs or the applicant’s diplomatic or consular mission).

    - In the case where the accompanying spouse is not eligible to apply for the Category ‘O-A’ (Long Stay) visa, he or she will be considered for temporary stay under Category ‘O’ visa. A marriage certificate must be provided as evidence and should be notarised by notary organs or by the applicant’s diplomatic or consular mission.



    3. Channels to submit application

    Applicant may submit their application at the Royal Thai embassy or Royal Thai Consulate-General in their home/residence country or at the Office of the Immigration Bureau in Thailand located on Soi Suan Plu, South Sathorn Road, Sathorn District, Bangkok 10120. Tel 0-2287-4948 (direct) or 0-2287-3101 - 10 ext. 2236.



    4. Visa fee

    The visa fee is 2,000 Baht for single-entry.



    5. Recommendations for foreigners with Non-Immigrant Visa “O-A” (Long Stay) while staying in the Kingdom

    5.1 Upon arrival, holder of this type of visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for 1 year from the date of first entry. During the one-year period, if he or she wishes to leave and re-enter the country, he or she is required to apply at the Immigration office for re-entry permit (single or multiple) before departure. In the case of leaving the country without a re-entry permit, the permit to stay for 1 year shall be considered void.

    5.2 At the end of the 90-day stay , the foreigner must report to the immigration officer in his or her residence area and report again every 90 days during his or her stay in Thailand. The foreigner may report to the police station if there is no immigration office in his or her residence area.



    5.3 Foreigner may report to the competent authority by post and should provide the following:

    - A report form (Tor Mor 47).

    - A copy of passport pages showing the foreigner’s photo, personal details, and the latest arrival visa stamp.

    - A copy of the previous receipt of acknowledgement.

    - A self-addressed envelope with postage affixed.

    Such documents must be sent to the Office of the Immigration Bureau, Soi Suan Plu, South Sathorn Road, Sathorn District, Bangkok 10120, and must be submitted 7 days before the end of every 90-day period. A receipt of acknowledgement will be given and should be used for future correspondence.



    5.4 Foreigner who wishes to extend his or her stay shall submit a request for extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau with documented evidence of money transfer or a deposit account in Thailand or an income certificate showing an amount of not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate plus a deposit account showing a total amount of not less than 800,000 Baht. A one-year extension of stay shall be granted at the discretion of the immigration officer to the foreigner as long as he or she meets the above requirements.

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    First, thank you very much for the information
    and referring link.
    However, this leaves me totally confused.
    Does it mean that the "normal" non-immigrant O
    (without the A attached) does not exist anymore?
    The need to report every 90 days with local
    immigration has not been omitted with the O-A
    visa and also everything else seems the same as
    with the "old" (or should I say "former") O-visa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietmar View Post
    First, thank you very much for the information
    and referring link.
    However, this leaves me totally confused.
    Does it mean that the "normal" non-immigrant O
    (without the A attached) does not exist anymore?
    The need to report every 90 days with local
    immigration has not been omitted with the O-A
    visa and also everything else seems the same as
    with the "old" (or should I say "former") O-visa.
    Sorry, I know only about the "O-A".

    And you do have to report every 90 days to immigration with the "O-A" visa, and subsequent yearly extensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietmar
    However, this leaves me totally confused. Does it mean that the "normal" non-immigrant O (without the A attached) does not exist anymore?
    The non-imm O does still exist.
    The non-imm O-A equals a non-imm O + extension, what is new is that you can get the full year at a consulate/embassy in your home country.

    In the past you could only get 90 days , or multiple thereof, and you had to do visa-runs between them, or extend it to 365 days here in Thailand.

    From immigration point of view, the O-A has a slightly higher status since there has been a criminal check done.
    But so far they don't give you any favours for having an O-A.
    Last edited by lom; 06-05-2007 at 10:22 AM.

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    Well due to the fact that each office has a different set of rules that they use, I will still get a new med form to take with me in August when I go to CM to renew my NON O Retired.

    Thanks Guys..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDN
    Have a look here.
    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    The non-imm O does still exist.
    It is confusing because RDN's link to the Ministry of Foreign
    Affairs does not show the non-immi O anymore...

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    ... in the Visas & Travel Documents link there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietmar View Post
    ... in the Visas & Travel Documents link there.
    Yes, very strange. My link was specifically for the "O-A" visa. I can't find the "O" either.

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    Well, maybe they are about to phase out the traditional non-imm O..

    I'll ask on tuesday, have to go to immigration once more to get the address paper needed for driving license.
    I'll check what's the deal with the medical certificate also.

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    London Thai Embassy: Non-Immigrant Visa

    Other activities such as visiting Thai spouse, children, parents, voluntary job
    (Category "O")

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    This one differentiates between male over 65 and
    female over 50 years for pension earners...
    Never heard this before. Always thought 50 is the general limit.

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    Maybe for males between 50 and 65 the new O-A visa is
    supposed to replace the former O visa.
    Always some new surprises from Thai authorities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietmar View Post
    This one differentiates between male over 65 and
    female over 50 years for pension earners...
    Never heard this before. Always thought 50 is the general limit.
    Quote Originally Posted by dietmar View Post
    Maybe for males between 50 and 65 the new O-A visa is
    supposed to replace the former O visa.
    Always some new surprises from Thai authorities...
    It's 50 for both - the web site is out of date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Well, maybe they are about to phase out the traditional non-imm O..

    I'll ask on tuesday, have to go to immigration once more to get the address paper needed for driving license.
    I'll check what's the deal with the medical certificate also.

    The only doctor's certificate I needed for my "O-A" visa was:

    A medical certificate issued from the country where the application is submitted, showing no prohibitive diseases as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No.14 (B.E. 2535)


    At the bottom of this Ministerial Regulation is this:

    Note: The reason for issuing this Ministerial Regulation is that at present, the
    situation concerning AIDS has changed immensely. Prevention of infected aliens or
    those who are HIV positive into or to reside in the kingdom has no effect on the
    spread of this disease within the nation. Thus, AIDS should not be set as a disease for
    prohibiting aliens infected with such disease to travel into or to reside in the kingdom

    as in accordance with the articles 12 (4) and 44 (2) of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522.


    Of course, conditions may have changed in the last few years...

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    Yep, coming in here with HIV/AIDS would be about like throwing a cup of water in the ocean..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    Another requirement for 365 days Non-imm O, issued at a consulate or embassy is that you can produce a clean police record.
    that's me fukked then.


    Are the rest of you really that lily fukking white?
    The police record thing does not apply to UK consulate at Hull.

    just fill out the 2 very simple forms here to get non immigrant O multi entry.

    I have done this back to back for 3 years with no problems.

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    If you are granted a Non-immigrant O-A MULTI ENTRY visa, you can leave and re-enter the Kingdom as many times as you want before the expiration date of the visa, and each time that you re-enter you will be granted a NEW one year permission to stay from the new re-enter date.

    This effectively means that it is possible to stay in Thailand for nearly 2 years on a non-imm O-A visa without having to renew your permission to stay at a Thai immigration office.

    You still have to do 90 day reports as long as you are in the Kingdom, but a new 90 day report date is established every time you re-enter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helicopter
    The police record thing does not apply to UK consulate at Hull.
    Of course it applies to them as well, it is after all part of the Thai immigration regulations.
    Today Hull may twist the rules a bit. Tomorrow ?
    Last edited by lom; 07-05-2007 at 11:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFCarlson
    If you are granted a Non-immigrant O-A MULTI ENTRY visa, you can leave and re-enter the Kingdom as many times as you want before the expiration date of the visa, and each time that you re-enter you will be granted a NEW one year permission to stay from the new re-enter date.
    But you need to remember to get a re-entry permit after the initial one year visa expires. If you don't, you'll have permission to stay, but no permission to enter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by String Cheese View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DFCarlson
    If you are granted a Non-immigrant O-A MULTI ENTRY visa, you can leave and re-enter the Kingdom as many times as you want before the expiration date of the visa, and each time that you re-enter you will be granted a NEW one year permission to stay from the new re-enter date.
    But you need to remember to get a re-entry permit after the initial one year visa expires. If you don't, you'll have permission to stay, but no permission to enter.
    Absolutely right! The re-entry permit keeps your current permission to stay alive if your original visa has expired. I think a multi entry re-entry permit costs 3800 baht and a single entry re-entry permit costs 1200 baht (but I'm not absolutely sure if that last amount is correct).

    If your visa has expired and you do not have a re-entry permit you'll have to apply for a new visa outside of Thailand or enter on a visa exempt 30 day stamp when you return.

    When your current permission to stay expires you have to go to immigration and apply for an extension of your permission to stay based on retirement. After that you'll always need a re-entry permit to keep your current permission to stay alive. The near 2 year stay seems to be a quirk available only to first time holders of multi-entry non-imm O-A visas.
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