Thread: Fixed my LONG Overstay

Originally Posted by jons557

"In any event, there is a record of your overstay, stamp or not.
You signed a receipt."

Hmm, I dunno. Stamps seem permanent. Receipts as proof of payment tend to "disappear" in Thailand!

Yea they don't keep those receipts, the only permanent record is made in your passport, which can change by getting a new passport.
If my passport was about to expire and was in an overstay situation a trip to KL would be the cheapest way out. Get the new passport in KL and start fresh.

Actually if you were in a real jam financially a fellow could easily walk across the border in Satun sidestep the Malaysian immigration and show up in KL on a bus and say you lost your passport to your embassy.
I've crossed over there in Satun several times and it's about as lax a border crossing as you could imagine.

I 100% agree he paid an extra 31k, what $1000 bucks and had everything sorted with no risk of getting free complementary accommodation from the Royal Thai Police.

Yeah he could have done this or that and never should have got into the situation yadda yadda yadda. He's happy, immigration are happy and his family are happy so it is a good outcome.

Mark

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by Necron99

Huh? What stress is there in going to a desk set up for the purpose, paying 20k and 6 grand for a 2 hour return flight?

The stress of getting there , get stopped on the way and it's off to Immigration pokie you go .


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And yes it does happen ...............

Three foreigners arrested for overstaying on Phuket

Sorry but I beg to differ there "Mr Earl"; There is NO evidence that having an overstay fine paid stamp in your passport hinders future visa applications at consulates outside of Thailand. That is totally false information. It's novel that you'd go to so much trouble to circumvent the law. I often wonder how foreigners like you manage to live here without a spine. Christ it's an overstay...

I'm glad the O/P got their overstay sorted out. However on a 15 day visa exempt stamp they're gonna hafta hustle to apply for a new Non-O based either on retirement or marriage to a Thai, as at least in Bangkok those are both taken under advisement for 2 weeks before they're approved and stamped into your passport.

If they had just booked a cheap r/t ticket to anywhere (or to any S/E Asian country which doesn't require a visa for white people), paid the overstay at the airport, flew out, turn around and flew back the very same day they'da got a 30 day visa exempt stamp. I dunno why you'd hafta take your family with you.

Now that you explained what you got; obviously some of the money went so you didn't physically hafta walk outta Thailand, get a visa for and go into Cambodia, turn around and come back out and re-enter Thailand. The passport made the trip, you just waited for it.

I'd be dollars to durian that there's a notation in Thai about settling the overstay in the passport, in addition to signing the receipt too. It's a small stamp and most of them are so covered in crud you couldn't read the Thai if you could read Thai.

Still good luck, hope it pans out for you..

Originally Posted by jons557

Before many of u verbally bash me again regarding my Overstay, let me just say that I didn't have a choice. Well, I did have a choice, but I chose the survival of my family's day to day survival over fixing my Overstay.

That being said, please dispense w/ the comments about why did I Overstay because I've heard them all before here in my past posts. I just want to share my experience and perhaps offer help to those in need. 1 member here is in a similar situation and I have already informed him.

I had near 2 years Overstay. I researched many "agents" and I was told that I had no option bu to go to the airport and leave. NOT TRUE.
On Wednesday I traveled by private car w/ the wife and daughter to Aranyaprathet, Poipet. We were escorted to the front of the lines (much to the confusion and anger by many customers!). The officials took my cash, conversed w/ my agent and said ok- go have lunch and come back.

We went eating (paid for by my agent), went back and I made the walk thru the Immigration Office, across the street and into the other building where they took my pic and Wai-ed me through.
No scolding, no questions- easy and fast.

Total fee: 50,000 Baht. Not a small amount, but a better alternative to the Bankok Hilton, and cheaper/more convenient to flights to and fro. If anyone has similar problems, or knows of a situation, I highly recommend the man who escorted me. He of course also does non-O marriage, etc.

Well if ur happy than... but for others i suggest this is NOT the way to deal with an overstay

?? i don't understand why u did what u did, you could have booked a flights to Phnom Penh, Penang, Vientiane, Savankhet etc for under 5,000 baht R/T ( no reason for ur wife or child to go with you) an paid your 20,000 baht overstay fine, departed and returned . UP to u if u wished too obtain a visa or come in on a 30 day exempt stay on the next flight back

you got

Plus it seems they allowed u to enter Thailand illegally as u do not mention that you were stamped into an out of Cambodia, ( have u looked at your passport??) SO now u have a stamp leaving and entering Thailand but not going anywhere. Good luck next time

Actually if you were in a real jam financially a fellow could easily walk across the border in Satun sidestep the Malaysian immigration and show up in KL on a bus and say you lost your passport to your embassy.

yes u could but u would be in Malaysia ILLEGALLY an when u got a new passport you would have no record of entering Malaysia an than u would screwed..

OK; i have never overstayed in my 28++ years of living here BUT when u do overstay there seems some that get a stamp BUT even if u get a stamp do they enter that into a computer, (any one 100% sure of this?) if not u just apply for new passport

And with a overstay stamp will an embassy refuse u a visa?

As to borders that are easy to get in and out thru without any stamps CAMBODIA.
i just recently (last July) exited Camboida by car at Pailin an entered Thailand, NO poles down so just drove thru, Only when i saw the thai market did i realize we were already in Thailand., Had to drive back to the border, leave the car, walk down to Cambodia immigration and get stamped out than walk back an get stamped into Thailand.

Of all my many trips by car in an out of Thailand, laos and Malaysia in the past 5 years, i never once had anyone even look into the back seat, much less open the trunk.

That's my decision for my own reasons my friend. What if I WAS locked? The misses and our daughter would have nothing and be stranded/at a loss. She went with me to help explain and be the bartering card. They did look at them- "Mia, Luk Sow?" "Yes"- smile smile.

And this is a response to PhuketRichard as well, and everyone who is debating this...
Are you guys drunk or just plain stupid? I've explained my reasons = scared and got it done. Can you Guys PROVE the processes u mentioned? I don't think so because we all know that going by yourself and being served by the wrong person can be trouble. And if you have had the personal experience of doing it like you all are boasting about, then you might try to help others with evidence like I'm doing.

Fondles: I don't know where you are from but I don't enjoy this term " bucket and her sprog" anyone else have a joke about their family referred to like this? I don't know what those terms mean, but I don't like. Please refrain from those terms. Seriously. Maybe that's a normal slang from where you are from, but the Universal/respectful way to that is wife and daughter (if I understand your wording/context)

Personally I'd have just paid up at the airport.. Glad you got your problem sorted out though, for you AND your family..

You have paid too much imo, but - can you put a price on piece of mind?

Nope.

As long as you're happy you haven't been overcharged.

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by jons557

My original post:

https://teakdoor.com/thai-visas-and-v...-overstay.html

I never saw Necron99, toddaniels, Fondles or Primo giving me advice...

That's TD for you....about half the people on here don't give advise, they just give out flack, insults and try to make you look stupid. You could discover a cheap and guarantee cure for cancer and you would still get flogged on TD.......

You did what you thought was best for you and your family...and it seems to have worked out OK...that's what counts. It's your money, your life....and all the after the fact advise is quite meaningless under the circumstances....

Well considering he sorted his first 2 overstays in the correct manner what advise would one give him other than do the same again ?