Thread: Death of Thai Wife

^ No, it just an obvious extension. If your non o is based on retirement, then you can't work as you are retired. If its bad on marriage then you can apply for a work permit to support your family.

Originally Posted by boloa

All joking aside,obtaining a Visa to stay in Thailand if your wife dies before you is no big problem.It's more important now to make sure Wills and Joint owned Property are sorted out so that the wife's family have no claims or you could find yourself homeless, as well as trying to sort out a new type of visa-extension!!

Yes, I agree, and that is why i raised that issue in an earlier thread. Thanks.

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by boloa

All joking aside,obtaining a Visa to stay in Thailand if your wife dies before you is no big problem.It's more important now to make sure Wills and Joint owned Property are sorted out so that the wife's family have no claims or you could find yourself homeless, as well as trying to sort out a new type of visa-extension!!

Yes, I agree, and that is why i raised that issue in an earlier thread. Thanks.

Something to consider is: Would you want to continue living in the house even if the family really wanted it? Might not be completely safe. If you had a girl friend or another wife, would you want her to live in the other woman's house? IMO it would bring back too many memories of happier days and I would no longer really want to live there even if the family agreeded. I would most likely look for greener pastures outside Thailand and relocate.

Whats the story if wife pop her clogs before husband and has Kids.?

Never even thought of this before today.

I belive there are numerous categories of non-immigration O visas, one of those categories is marriage o(m) other catagories cover volunteering, retirement etc

And from what I have see of the law you are allowed to inherit land from your wife and with the permission of the ministry of interia; keep and own it. Personally I don't fancy your chances of getting that permission and I suspect its there for historical reasons to allow the civil servants and ministers to scam large sums of money from Chinese thai's before they were allowed to become thai citizens

Originally Posted by Fondles

Whack her a wheelie bin and store in a downstairs bathroom then just carry on as usual.

Whatever was the outcome of that guy ? has been to court yet or still banged up waiting ?

Jai thanks though i was more referring to the visa, rather than the Assets, the children are ours.

Originally Posted by jaiyenyen

Yasojack. My wife has three children. I've been told that the assets get split 50/50 between myself, and the three children, i.e. they share 50% together. I'm not sure if this is a general Thai law, or something she's dreamed up. I'm not best pleased with this arrangement, and will be looking into changing it in the future.

My mate's wife died aged 28 and he didn't bother going to immigration for 8 years. WHen he finally went, they charged him 20,000 baht.

Yes, I realised just after I posted it. Never mind, the info might be useful to someone.
As for the Non Imm 'O' visa, I think you keep that until it's up for extending again. If you have kids together, then I would think you could extend on the basis of them being your dependents.

What happens to a foreign woman married to a Thai man that passes away? Does she also get the boot or are there special laws for a woman married to the Thai man?

The original poster should be congratulated for asking such an important question. Unfortunately, he still doesn't know the answer. None of the "Consuls" in the UK have a bloody clue about what happens in such circumstances.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

There is an extension of stay for supporting your half-Thai kids, or even 100% Thai kids who aren't yours but from your deceased wife. However in the latter instance you hafta go thru the court system to legally adopt them.

One really important thing to remember for those that have kids w/Thais; simply being listed as the father on the Thai birth certificate gives you NO parental rights at all.

Doesn't matter that you got your kids passports from your country, have the 'suitable for framing' nifty paper from your Embassy registering a "birth abroad", etc. You're not a person with any legal rights of decision regarding the child as far as Thailand is concerned, until you go thru the court system and get 'recognized' as the father, because that's what gives the parental rights to you.

A lot of people don't do this and when marriages go sideways (as they can in any country), those fathers often times face lengthy battles being recognized as the 'real' father of their half-thai children. I imagine it'd be even tougher if your wife died, as her relatives would be "next in line" in the eyes of the Thai legal system..

Unfortunately, the way the rules are written; if you're on a yearly extension of stay based on marriage to a Thai national and that Thai dies - so does your extension of stay...

Now if you just have a multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type-O visa; the kind you get from OUTSIDE of Thailand at a Thai Embassy or Consulate and the kind where you "run for the border" every 90 days, your visa doesn't expire because that's NOT a yearly extension of stay and is not thai'd, err tied to your wife's demise.

Unless I'm mistaken, the financial requirements for getting a yearly extension of stay based on being the parent of half-Thai kids is the same as being married to a Thai national; 40K baht a month of income or 400K baht banked in a Thai bank in your name only for the requisite time. However I was unable to find written documentation (in English or Thai) which said you first have to be legally recognized as the father thru the court system. So I honestly don't know.

For a child support visa there is no seeding period, 400,000 Baht for one day in the bank is all that is required. Yet different immagration offices will take a different view. Was to go over to a child support extension of stay this year, on the recommendation of the Immigration chief. He gets moved and his replacement says no, spouse extension of stay only.
Don't know where I would stand if the wife passed, kids were born in OZ, but hold Thai and OZ passports, we live in Thailand and earn our [no WP ] income here.
There are many rules that govern different situations, one that says if a Thai citizen, born overseas returns and is a benefit to Thailand, PR can be grant to the parent or parents. Think an immigration specialist lawyer would be the best way to go. Jim

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by toddaniels

There is an extension of stay for supporting your half-Thai kids, or even 100% Thai kids who aren't yours but from your deceased wife. However in the latter instance you hafta go thru the court system to legally adopt them.

One really important thing to remember for those that have kids w/Thais; simply being listed as the father on the Thai birth certificate gives you NO parental rights at all.

Doesn't matter that you got your kids passports from your country, have the 'suitable for framing' nifty paper from your Embassy registering a "birth abroad", etc. You're not a person with any legal rights of decision regarding the child as far as Thailand is concerned, until you go thru the court system and get 'recognized' as the father, because that's what gives the parental rights to you.

A lot of people don't do this and when marriages go sideways (as they can in any country), those fathers often times face lengthy battles being recognized as the 'real' father of their half-thai children. I imagine it'd be even tougher if your wife died, as her relatives would be "next in line" in the eyes of the Thai legal system..

Unfortunately, the way the rules are written; if you're on a yearly extension of stay based on marriage to a Thai national and that Thai dies - so does your extension of stay...

Now if you just have a multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type-O visa; the kind you get from OUTSIDE of Thailand at a Thai Embassy or Consulate and the kind where you "run for the border" every 90 days, your visa doesn't expire because that's NOT a yearly extension of stay and is not thai'd, err tied to your wife's demise.

Unless I'm mistaken, the financial requirements for getting a yearly extension of stay based on being the parent of half-Thai kids is the same as being married to a Thai national; 40K baht a month of income or 400K baht banked in a Thai bank in your name only for the requisite time. However I was unable to find written documentation (in English or Thai) which said you first have to be legally recognized as the father thru the court system. So I honestly don't know.

For a child support visa there is no seeding period, 400,000 Baht for one day in the bank is all that is required. Yet different immagration offices will take a different view. Was to go over to a child support extension of stay this year, on the recommendation of the Immigration chief. He gets moved and his replacement says no, spouse extension of stay only.
Don't know where I would stand if the wife passed, kids were born in OZ, but hold Thai and OZ passports, we live in Thailand and earn our [no WP ] income here.
There are many rules that govern different situations, one that says if a Thai citizen, born overseas returns and is a benefit to Thailand, PR can be grant to the parent or parents. Think an immigration specialist lawyer would be the best way to go. Jim

If the kids have Thai passports they must have a Thai birth certificate which makes them Thai all the while they remain in Thailand.

Think you would be alright on that one Jim.

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by toddaniels

There is an extension of stay for supporting your half-Thai kids, or even 100% Thai kids who aren't yours but from your deceased wife. However in the latter instance you hafta go thru the court system to legally adopt them.

One really important thing to remember for those that have kids w/Thais; simply being listed as the father on the Thai birth certificate gives you NO parental rights at all.

Doesn't matter that you got your kids passports from your country, have the 'suitable for framing' nifty paper from your Embassy registering a "birth abroad", etc. You're not a person with any legal rights of decision regarding the child as far as Thailand is concerned, until you go thru the court system and get 'recognized' as the father, because that's what gives the parental rights to you.

A lot of people don't do this and when marriages go sideways (as they can in any country), those fathers often times face lengthy battles being recognized as the 'real' father of their half-thai children. I imagine it'd be even tougher if your wife died, as her relatives would be "next in line" in the eyes of the Thai legal system..

Unfortunately, the way the rules are written; if you're on a yearly extension of stay based on marriage to a Thai national and that Thai dies - so does your extension of stay...

Now if you just have a multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type-O visa; the kind you get from OUTSIDE of Thailand at a Thai Embassy or Consulate and the kind where you "run for the border" every 90 days, your visa doesn't expire because that's NOT a yearly extension of stay and is not thai'd, err tied to your wife's demise.

Unless I'm mistaken, the financial requirements for getting a yearly extension of stay based on being the parent of half-Thai kids is the same as being married to a Thai national; 40K baht a month of income or 400K baht banked in a Thai bank in your name only for the requisite time. However I was unable to find written documentation (in English or Thai) which said you first have to be legally recognized as the father thru the court system. So I honestly don't know.

For a child support visa there is no seeding period, 400,000 Baht for one day in the bank is all that is required. Yet different immagration offices will take a different view. Was to go over to a child support extension of stay this year, on the recommendation of the Immigration chief. He gets moved and his replacement says no, spouse extension of stay only.
Don't know where I would stand if the wife passed, kids were born in OZ, but hold Thai and OZ passports, we live in Thailand and earn our [no WP ] income here.
There are many rules that govern different situations, one that says if a Thai citizen, born overseas returns and is a benefit to Thailand, PR can be grant to the parent or parents. Think an immigration specialist lawyer would be the best way to go. Jim

If the kids have Thai passports they must have a Thai birth certificate which makes them Thai all the while they remain in Thailand.

Think you would be alright on that one Jim.

First thing I got was Thai birth certificates from the Thai Embassy in Canberra and registered them with the UK.
Think I am safe as to staying, but you still have to show money, but the Thais have a thing about taking care of their parents, so there are many ways around the system. If you have stepchildren and adopt them then you become legal guardian.
In my case I would just throw my passport in the river, buried a guy out her a few years ago. His passport had expied 7 years earlier. Out here as of yet no one cares, be it work permits or visa status. First land I bought was in my name, no one knew aliens could not own land. Think t will be a few years yet before the law gets up to this neck of the wood. Of cause I could just walk over to Lao and walk back,
Won't worry about it for some years to come. Jim

Your an Ozzy Jim why did you need to register Thai birth certificates in the U.K

Have I missed something,are you English mate!

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Your an Ozzy Jim why did you need to register Thai birth certificates in the U.K

Have I missed something,are you English mate!

No, I was born in the UK, left at 5 weeks old, but still a Brit by birth. That means my kids can hold UK/ EU passports, always handy to have a few options. Jim

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Your an Ozzy Jim why did you need to register Thai birth certificates in the U.K

Have I missed something,are you English mate!

No, I was born in the UK, left at 5 weeks old, but still a Brit by birth. That means my kids can hold UK/ EU passports, always handy to have a few options. Jim

Yes that would make sense!

As you obviously hold a Ozzy passport did you not fancy that option for the kids?

Dave

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Your an Ozzy Jim why did you need to register Thai birth certificates in the U.K

Have I missed something,are you English mate!

No, I was born in the UK, left at 5 weeks old, but still a Brit by birth. That means my kids can hold UK/ EU passports, always handy to have a few options. Jim

Yes that would make sense!

As you obviously hold a Ozzy passport did you not fancy that option for the kids?

Dave

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Your an Ozzy Jim why did you need to register Thai birth certificates in the U.K

Have I missed something,are you English mate!

No, I was born in the UK, left at 5 weeks old, but still a Brit by birth. That means my kids can hold UK/ EU passports, always handy to have a few options. Jim

Yes that would make sense!

As you obviously hold a Ozzy passport did you not fancy that option for the kids?

Dave

They have OZ passports and Thai passports and the option to get UK ones, which I will get them when I have the time and money to do. Passports give you a right to work and live in other places. They may be happy to live their life in Thailand, or they may want to do a bit of traveling, up to them. Jim

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Your an Ozzy Jim why did you need to register Thai birth certificates in the U.K

Have I missed something,are you English mate!

No, I was born in the UK, left at 5 weeks old, but still a Brit by birth. That means my kids can hold UK/ EU passports, always handy to have a few options. Jim

Yes that would make sense!

As you obviously hold a Ozzy passport did you not fancy that option for the kids?

Dave

They have OZ passports and Thai passports and the option to get UK ones, which I will get them when I have the time and money to do. Passports give you a right to work and live in other places. They may be happy to live their life in Thailand, or they may want to do a bit of traveling, up to them. Jim

See exactly where your coming from but read it as if you had already got them English passports.

I'm not up on the amount of different passport one person can hold,how many is it?
Having just an English one myself it was arranging my own kids passports that made me a little bit aware of even dual Nationality.

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Your an Ozzy Jim why did you need to register Thai birth certificates in the U.K

Have I missed something,are you English mate!

No, I was born in the UK, left at 5 weeks old, but still a Brit by birth. That means my kids can hold UK/ EU passports, always handy to have a few options. Jim

Yes that would make sense!

As you obviously hold a Ozzy passport did you not fancy that option for the kids?

Dave

They have OZ passports and Thai passports and the option to get UK ones, which I will get them when I have the time and money to do. Passports give you a right to work and live in other places. They may be happy to live their life in Thailand, or they may want to do a bit of traveling, up to them. Jim

See exactly where your coming from but read it as if you had already got them English passports.

I'm not up on the amount of different passport one person can hold,how many is it?
Having just an English one myself it was arranging my own kids passports that made me a little bit aware of even dual Nationality.

All thought many countries say you can only hold one passport, but in reality you can have as many as you can get. My mums from Ireland and by right of decent they can probably get passports from the Republic of Ireland, get as many as you can. It's a big bad world out there and sometimes it pays to move.
Have a friend UK passport, has a HK residency card, works in main land China, no problem.
It's all about options and for my kids school and University, no problem rocking up in the EU to attend a Uni or OZ for that matter. Jim