Thailand : English to be made 2nd language in schools

**bart** · 17-11-2010, 03:33 PM

And this is worse than a Thai 'teacher' with a Thai 'degree' in what way?[/quote]

thai teachers should be on the same salary as farang teachers.
two tier wages structures , is just not fair.

**EssEffBee** · 17-11-2010, 09:33 PM

^Why isn't it fair?

**bart** · 20-11-2010, 07:26 PM

because a teacher is a teacher . thai or farang .
we all moan about double pricing in thailand ,
so teachers from the errr, civilsed world , should lead by example .

**Marmite the Dog** · 20-11-2010, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by bart

because a teacher is a teacher . thai or farang .

No they're not.

Most Thai teachers wouldn't qualify to be a student in a real school, let alone a teacher.

**EssEffBee** · 21-11-2010, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by bart

because a teacher is a teacher . thai or farang .
we all moan about double pricing in thailand ,
so teachers from the errr, civilsed world , should lead by example .

The 'dual pricing' issue in Thailand does not relate to this subject in any way.

There is a huge shortage of good native English teachers in Thailand. It is normal for any country to make a job 'attractive' so that people are 'attracted' to that position.

A qualified Australian Highschool teacher would not be enticed to give up a yearly salary of AUD$50k-$65k to relocate to Thailand for a salary of TB30k/month.
At the time of writing this post, AUD$1 = about TB30.
Many qualified foreign teachers make between TB60k to 200k per month here in Thailand...& they probably deserve it.

Since the M.O.E. is desperate for native English speakers & also since Thailand is highly corrupt, almost any native English speaker can acquire a teaching position. The 'piss pots' & 'sexpats' usually don't last long in a teaching position (thank god) but unfortunately, these people damage the image of others.

If a Thai went to Australia & had a recognised qualification to teach their native language, they would be allowed to secure a job/business (pending visa status) & charge accordingly.
This now brings up the issue of 'tenure' in Thailand.

Under the current situation & if you are a foreigner in Thailand, you may be, at the drop of a hat, expelled from this country. Thai Immigration (the government) may simply say, "All foreigners get out' & there is nothing that anybody can do about this. Simply put, under the current immigration laws, foreigners have no tenure here.

These reasons are simply a few of the reasons why good (but not necessarily 'qualified') native English speakers/teachers need to be paid at a higher rate than Thai English teachers.

**bruceveld** · 22-11-2010, 09:42 PM

Just a quick comment... I get a kick out of Brits who think they "own" English. A few years ago the British Council commissioned a White paper on the future of English Education. The conclusion of this earth-shattering 72-page report was that England did not own English and, worldwide, no English was the "correct" version, be in British, American, Australian or even Singaporian!

SHOCKING! LOL

**dirtydog** · 22-11-2010, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Most Thai teachers wouldn't qualify to be a student in a real school, let alone a teacher.

Most teflers don't have a teaching degree, my Thai girlfriend does.

**hillbilly** · 23-11-2010, 05:38 PM

We have a niece who graduated from a university in P-Lok with an emphasis in English. Now she is well into her second year studying law in English in P-Lok.

Me: How is school?
Her: Alai?
Me: How are you doing with law school?
Her: Alai?
Me: What is my name?
Her: Mr. *****

Luckily, none of her college funds are coming out of my pocket.

The Thai's educational system is a joke...

**hillbilly** · 23-11-2010, 05:43 PM

Here is another story. Recently, the family was here in BKK to discuss this young lady's future once she graduated from this Law school in English. They decided that she has to do a master degree in the states.

When I pointed out she cannot speak English well enough, they thought she could learn while in the states. I trotted out all the reasons why this was not possible, but soon gave up and went outside for a smoke.

**Marmite the Dog** · 23-11-2010, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Most Thai teachers wouldn't qualify to be a student in a real school, let alone a teacher.

Most teflers don't have a teaching degree, my Thai girlfriend does.

Does she have a TEFL qualification?

**Smug Farang Bore** · 23-11-2010, 10:49 PM

Its the second language in Uk too.

**bart** · 25-11-2010, 02:30 AM

[Its the second language in Uk too.[/quote]

the most popular name in britain ,
for new born boys , is muhammad .

so why the fck , is english being taught .
take it to conclusion .

**CaptainNemo** · 25-11-2010, 02:46 AM

It better be proper Engrish and not that mangled 16th century ape talk they use over "the pond".

(The inventor of) The first "mass-produced" commercial PC?
Arguably a toss-up between the Datapoint 2200 by Phil Ray and Gus Roche or Kenbak-1 by John Blankenbaker... both in 1970 (but designed before then).... but the phrase "standing on the shoulders of giants" spings to mind... Turing, Manchester Mark 1...

**Marmite the Dog** · 25-11-2010, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

but the phrase "standing on the shoulders of giants" spings to mind

As ever.

**Stranger** · 05-01-2011, 10:12 PM

No chance, will never happen.

**Mid** · 04-01-2012, 04:45 PM

continues : https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...ge-vetoed.html (Plan to make English 2nd language vetoed)

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