Thread: Don't get ripped off by Thai schools

When I was reunited with my long lost son 20 years ago we had a strong heart to heart. I found myself saying "But I couldn't afford, I couldn't afford." He turned out to be a good adult and went to school for 12 years in Providence RI with dark people who say waz up a lot.

So you already know what separated us, and how old he was 20 years ago? Or is it because he lived in a place where there were a lot of Black people? And just how much time is "long Lost"? I had a tooth ache last month. It only lasted a day and a half but it sure seemed like a long time.

How did you lose him ?? on a plane, a train, in a car, a bar ?? When he was returned, did he have travel luggage tags all over him from around the globe ??

Originally Posted by Smeg

Originally Posted by bruceveld

I could do anything I wanted and it would be none of your f$#%ing business. So my suggestion would be to change the tone of your questions next time or you will NOT get an answer.

You start a DISCUSSION thread to tell the world about your private life and how clever you are and then get shitty and start swearing when people don't agree. Headcase....

Fuck off, troll pants. Go do something useful.

Originally Posted by Camel Toe

When I was reunited with my long lost son 20 years ago we had a strong heart to heart. I found myself saying "But I couldn't afford, I couldn't afford." He turned out to be a good adult and went to school for 12 years in Providence RI with dark people who say waz up a lot.

So you already know what separated us, and how old he was 20 years ago? Or is it because he lived in a place where there were a lot of Black people? And just how much time is "long Lost"? I had a tooth ache last month. It only lasted a day and a half but it sure seemed like a long time.

Lets play Internet Stories.

I know that these things are all true.

You met your wife in a bar. You abandoned your wife and kid. You never supported them or ever gave them any money. Your kid was totally undiciplined and ran around everywhere like he was wild or something.

What would you expect, he was never home schooled and never graduated from your school.

Yeah, I used to come to Thailand all the time when I was 18. I had a pension from the US Division of The White Folks Fund, along with the thousands my dead parents left me. In Thailand I married my first lay, lost interest in her because she got a little heavy around the waist, took a hike and never looked back. Uncanny the way salesmen can get the goods on ya, eh?

^ Bruce, why do you think people "twist the truth or just make up crap" as you put it? I mean, why do they single you out? Do you have no idea?

And to keep on topic, the kids would probably have more social life if they were at school full time, of course.

Originally Posted by bruceveld

Like I posted earlier, some very well respected researchers would say that socialization we provide in years 1 to 6 is more harmful than helpful. That is certainly at least debatable.

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some very well respected researchers would say that socialization we provide in years 1 to 6 is more harmful than helpful.

I have to agree. Those kids educated in a crackhouse homeschool are more likely to, er, um, die before they're six.

some very well respected researchers

Give me a break. Isn't this logical fallacy #7? Appeal to a higher authority?

Interesting thread to say the least. Its a topic that always comes up between expats in Thailand. Where would you want your children to be educated? Most prefer the West, however what happens if you dont want or plan to go back. Could the solution be to group some expat kids more or less in the same age group and hire 2 teachers to home school them?

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by bruceveld

Like I posted earlier, some very well respected researchers would say that socialization we provide in years 1 to 6 is more harmful than helpful. That is certainly at least debatable.

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Go to your nearest good bookstore and buy "Why Children Fail" by John Holt. His books are classics. I could write five pages on why he feels formal education is dangerous and counter productive.

In QUICK summary:

1. Our children are exposed to social structures they are unable to handle at such an early age (bullies, rich vs poor, etc.)

2. Our children are taught that school and LEARNING is not enjoyable.

3. Only 30 percent of people are truly successful in the "memorize and regurgitate" enrironment of current schools. the rest feel like failures.

From his book "Underachieving Schools" Holt says "At this time I was coming to realize that children see schools as a place of danger and that theyir mail goal is to stay out of danger."

Bruce, were you home-schooled?

If not, do you wish you had been?

Originally Posted by bruceveld

I can see their thinking. You can't? I can give you at least one concrete example from my own childhood that backs up their thinking on the subject.

So, an anecdote, then? A single one at that. Hardly scientific, and hardly something to base your entire argument on, such is you believe it to be.

Originally Posted by Smeg

Bruce, were you home-schooled?

Nope

Originally Posted by Smeg

If not, do you wish you had been?

Interesting question. I did not handle the constraints of (private Catholic) grade school very well. My grades were poor and they thought I had ADD. I probably would have been far better off in a less structured environment like Home Schooling.

private Catholic

Sorry to hear that, mate. Please forgive all the negativity I posted, I didn't know, honest, I had no idea!

Actually, mr. Fixit, I am NOT agreeing with Holt on how schools are all dangerous for young kids. If I did I would not send my kids to school at all! I can see his point, but I am not nearly so dogmatic.

private Catholic

I am not nearly so dogmatic.

How did you shake it?

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by bruceveld

Like I posted earlier, some very well respected researchers would say that socialization we provide in years 1 to 6 is more harmful than helpful. That is certainly at least debatable.

Quote one.

I was actually just answering a question by Kingwilly.

BTW, the guy who wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad also talks about this in one of his books--how he was considered borderline retarded because of his unorthodox learning style.

Originally Posted by Camel Toe

private Catholic

I am not nearly so dogmatic.

How did you shake it?

I literally spent most of 3rd 4th and 5th grades in the hall. I talked back to the Nuns all the time. Either very brave or very stupid lol.

I consider myself very lucky to have been raised in the US because in most countries I would have been fast tracked to vocational training and out of the educational system. Instead I am probably one of the few people who increased their GPA at every level of my education. From C/D in grade school to B in high school to B+ in university to A- in grad school.

Yes, well, teachers on the whole are not the sharpest knives in the intellectual box and I can see that anyone who seemed out of the ordinary or seemed not to fit into a teacher-comfortable pigeon hole would be seen out of the ordinary and considered retarded or whatever.

You said teachers thought you had AD/HD - if you haven't just what DO you have?