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    Of course we are profit-oriented, how else are we going to pay for costs, salaries etc . . .
    erm, paying for costs does not mean you a profit-orientated, it means you are profit neutral. ie there are no investors looking for a return of funds ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteLotusLane View Post
    Whereabouts in Thailand?

    If Chiang Mai then I'm interested.

    Priority #1 : A SAFE environment, in absolutely every respect.
    Priority #2 : Professional staff who like kids. And enough of them
    Priority #3 : Affordable. Anything over 5000 baht / month is out, preferably (lots) cheaper. Also a daily rate of around 200/300 baht would be nice. Even nicer a half-day rate of 150-200 baht.
    Priority #4 : South of town in Chiang Mai
    Priority #5 : Opening hours to start at 8am, until 6pm.

    That's about it.
    Check your PMs. Sent you details about a school in CM that matches about 90% of what you want (closes at 5 and is a little North of town but otherwise fits what you listed). My son goes there and we're very happy with the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
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    Common knowledge that all international schools charge way in excess of what they spend on their clients.
    really? how do you figure that?

    I know for a fact that the top 3 international schools in thailand are non-profit ventures.

    thus every bladdy cent that the parents and students pay goes straight back into the students education!
    So how come ISB is about 25% more expensive than the others? Worse still, it only provides an American education.

    I'm sure there's some cream skimmed off the top at these schools; after all, there's Thais involved...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    I.S.B.
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    Of course we are profit-oriented, how else are we going to pay for costs, salaries etc . . .
    erm, paying for costs does not mean you a profit-orientated, it means you are profit neutral. ie there are no investors looking for a return of funds ....
    I shall have to be more aware of my word selection! I meant that we have to make a profit . . . just listing some of the costs involved.

    Semantics, kingwilly, semantics, but I do stand corrected

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
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    Common knowledge that all international schools charge way in excess of what they spend on their clients.
    really? how do you figure that?

    I know for a fact that the top 3 international schools in thailand are non-profit ventures.

    thus every bladdy cent that the parents and students pay goes straight back into the students education!
    I fail to see how 500k baht is justified for preschool and juniors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ban Saray View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ban Saray View Post
    Common knowledge that all international schools charge way in excess of what they spend on their clients.
    really? how do you figure that?

    I know for a fact that the top 3 international schools in thailand are non-profit ventures.

    thus every bladdy cent that the parents and students pay goes straight back into the students education!
    I fail to see how 500k baht is justified for preschool and juniors.
    The justification is the payers domain. I guess it's a matter of how to justify anything for any price.

    We are looking at around 10k per 'semester' and have been told that this is acceptable for what we would be offering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post

    I shall have to be more aware of my word selection! I meant that we have to make a profit . . . just listing some of the costs involved.

    Semantics, kingwilly, semantics, but I do stand corrected
    semantics? i beg to differ, there are schools out there that are set up as educational foundations ie. non profit.

    there are also schools out there that are set up to make a profit, ie have investors wanting a return etc

    big difference betwixt the two methinks!

    sounds as if yours will be non-profit.

    fair enough and gud luck.

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    Definitely not non-profit, why the argumentation?
    I meant that we have to make a profit
    Is that clear enough, of course we are not a charity.

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    ^ FFS. I'm not arguing just trying to point out that some schools are purely profit driven.

    some schools put education first and all monies (after paying salaries and expenses etc) go back into the development of the school.

    but looks as if u aint interested in wot i got to say so WHATEVA!

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    Take a look at Mother Goose Time ( w w w.mothergoosetime.com)

    The company provides complete monthly curricula kits specifically for the age group (daycare/pre-school). Everything is included, including all the craft supplies, so the activities/education content is essentially turn-key.

    The daycare my sons were in used the program for the two years they attended; certainly seemed effective.

    The company is in US, so getting the monthly shipment might require a middleman forwarder; but at least you can get an idea of the content and the price for a turnkey curriculum (about $6-7/student/month, lower for annual commitment).

    Does Montessori offer anything inclusive? Does one of you need to be Montessori certified to market the school as a Montessori school? Worth considering, as the Montessori brand will certainly allow for higher tuition charges. [And a better education experience also of course]

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    Wow, Kingwilly . . . having a bad day? Thank you for pointing out that there are non-profit organisations in education.

    Cheers, zipcode. The Mothergoose website is quite good, we'll check it out a bit more in detail - we definitely want to get a western slant to it aside from it being solely English language.

    I'm not sure about Montessori and the requirements, our eldest was at a Montessori when we were in Singapore and she enjoyed both the curriculum as well as the teaching style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Wow, Kingwilly . . . having a bad day? Thank you for pointing out that there are non-profit organisations in education.

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    not really, u asked for advice, i gave some, and u got snarky, not sure y.

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    Playschool requirements

    you've got to be under 5 to attend

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    Not sure what snarky means, but if I came across as such then I apologise - it was not intentional.

    daveboy - thank you! Glad we have that sorted.


    Ok, new development - my wife's sister, who has had Thai nationality for about 10 years, will front the project so these probs are done away with . . . still remains questions of requirements to open one.

    CMN, did you get any insight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    Ok, new development - my wife's sister, who has had Thai nationality for about 10 years, will front the project so these probs are done away with . . . still remains questions of requirements to open one.
    Just get your sister to talk to the local office of the Ministry of Education. They will tell you what they require and just follow that.

    Or, you could do what my boss did/is doing and hire a Thai 'lawyer' who hasn't got a bloody clue and drag the whole licensing process out for over 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    ^ FFS. I'm not arguing just trying to point out that some schools are purely profit driven.

    some schools put education first and all monies (after paying salaries and expenses etc) go back into the development of the school.

    but looks as if u aint interested in wot i got to say so WHATEVA!

    Fully agree, and was shaken down by DD the minute I mentioned it.

    Seems you are not allowed to critisise the ethics of profit making concerns.

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    I would like to know if there are opportunities to open preschools in Pattaya too.


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