Thread: why I have come to despise these loser, fake "educators"

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Fair enough. However it is a odd that someone like you that left school at 16 or so educates post graduate executives . Does the subject of your education ever come up? Do you tell the truth or lie like Bangkok Phil?

To be honset with you, I do state on my teaching CV that I do have a degree, but I sure don't posess a fake one.

I have never been asked to produce any paperwork of any kind as the half-Thai scenario tends to work in my favour and then throw them off.

Never had a problem.

And as for educating executives, I swot up, I read up, I know my politics and read the world news. I'm a history anorak too. I'm great at public speaking in front of people, and that stemmed from presenting stuff at corporate events, ie being a compere at big events too, of which I have a real, genuinely excellent record.

The subject of my education does pop up and I'm a good, confident talker. I've mixed in decent circles business wise in my other fields of work too. I just make sure I don't tell any white lies and leave myself exposed.

I just make sure I don't get 'out of my depth' and I can hold my own.

Originally Posted by NickA

I am at the moment wondering if I can face a year or two back in the UK to get some qualifications....

Same same, but I don't know if I can do it. I might pay for it out of my own pocket and do it in OZ or NZ instead.

^I've heard of a few people doing it in Thailand, but I've never been able to find out where and how.

Originally Posted by tuferguson

the only folk who I know who make 80k+ a month are PGCE people. Even then some of the "international" schools will only pay 50/60k. Either that or you work like a nigger on private lessons after the first job which sort of destroys the whole lifestyle point of escaping the rat race in the west.

can you explain how a nigger works?

Originally Posted by dirtydog

^Huh, its dark blue for me, same as all the others.

and for me...Marmers are you sure about your answer?

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

The subject of my education does pop up and I'm a good, confident talker.

a bullshitter is what you really mean...okay well stated...

Pat: this is one of your better threads but I worry that it might come back and bite you in the arse some day...too much info on a public forum...



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Originally Posted by hillbilly

Probably for the first time I agree with DJ Pat. The reason? I have a MA-TESL along with a elementary certification.

I HATE fakes...

are merkins allowd to drop the 'an' in front of words starting wiv vowels now?

Just out of curiosity - does anyone here teach anything else than English - such as math, history, economics, physics, etc?

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I think Nick is a Maths teacher.
quirrel too and amazingly KW, well they wouldn't allow him to teach English would they.

I'm a language consultant by the way.

^ I think Squirrel teaches science, as do I.

I'm going to teach Gym & Thai.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

I think Nick is a Maths teacher.

In fact a general science teacher for the 11-14 and a physics teacher to anyone older. I s'pose I could teach maths, but I haven't so far.

Originally Posted by klongmaster

a bullshitter is what you really mean...okay well stated...

Pat: this is one of your better threads but I worry that it might come back and bite you in the arse some day...too much info on a public forum...

Yes but I don't make up obvious bullshit. Bullshit will be believed when you can back it up with decent appearance, convincing banter, and knowing just what you are talking about.

The many bleary eyed losers I see on the BTS in the mornings with a mouthful of clorets and baggy red eyes cannot and are not capable of this. They posess that sorry, down-ass, guilty, scuffy look about them.
Add a Scouse or Brummie accent to that sad combo and they may as well be in a British prison uniform.

If you see me around town on my way to class, I look and dress not like a teacher. I have no satchel, no light blue shirts nor do I posess an ill-fitting trouser belt.

My shirts are ironed immaculately and my socks match my shoes colour. My shoes are dapper I could be a CEO at KFC or something (but I am not).

^So how do you know that some of the other well dressed people aren't teachers?

You assume that ill-dressed people are teachers and from that assumption create the inference that therefore all teachers are badly dressed, yet you admit that you are a teacher, but say that you don't dress like a teacher... which to me seems paradoxical and idiotic at the same time.

I'm educated to Masters level, with two degree's and a diploma. I have no teaching qualifications- don't even know if I would need them.

But teaching English as a second language is surely not rocket science. No doubt my stuff would assist me if I was teaching business English, economics or something. But teaching a bunch of schoolkids basic conversational and written English surely does not require Chaucer like qualities.

I would have thought the ability to communicate to a group, teach by example (i.e. no Glaswegians) and no small degree of patience would be more important attributes than how many letters after your name.

Originally Posted by NickA

^So how do you know that some of the other well dressed people aren't teachers?

You assume that ill-dressed people are teachers and from that assumption create the inference that therefore all teachers are badly dressed, yet you admit that you are a teacher, but say that you don't dress like a teacher... which to me seems paradoxical and idiotic at the same time.

Just some double standards that I have, we all suffer from them.

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

Yes but I don't make up obvious bullshit. Bullshit will be believed when you can back it up with decent appearance, convincing banter, and knowing just what you are talking about.

is this an example of what you mean? (cough)

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

I am occasionally dead tired and red-eyed when going to work, thanks to having two small kids who occasionally wake up in the middle of the night.

I sometimes wear a blue shirt, and my trouser belt could probably be better fitted than it is. I carry a small backpack and my shoes are not always spotless. But then again, I studied engineering and finance rather than fashion, so I guess I am excused.

I could perhaps be mistaken for a whore-mongering English teacher, but I frankly my dear, don't really give a shit. I am happily married family man with a good job at a major international company in Bangkok and on a rather generous expat package.

So be a bit careful of jumping to conclusions, Pat. Looks can be very deceiving. The "losers" could in fact be a lot more successful than yourself.

Oh yeah - while I have your attention: The word "possess" is spelled with double "ss"s......

No, there is a difference.

Look and read between the lines before you attack me for stereotyping stereotypes.

There is an obvious difference. That look of "I wish I was elsewhere" and "What the hell am I doing here at this hour" are synonymous with TEFL-ing.

If you've done it, then you'd know.

A mans appearance can be scrutinised in many ways. Ask a successful man like yourself.