Thread: Question for Teachers in Thailand .

In WW2 Chang Mai airport (the same airstrip used today) was a Japanese airbase,used to fly into Burma. American airforce bombed the airfield.

Originally Posted by xanax

Originally Posted by Bangyai

The Thais did actually resist the invading Japanese at Prachuab Kiri Khan, but the Thai government ordered an end to the brief resistance .

They threw in the towel after one day of 'resistance'- pathetic. Ask any Thai what 'victory' monument is all about and you will take a long time finding one who can tell you, another farce there.

Typical Thailand. Every thing here is for show.

Originally Posted by Bangyai

They found the Khmer and Mon already here. Ramkamheng united the various Thai groupings and evicted the above mentioned.

But decided to keep their language (Mon-Khmer)

Originally Posted by cdnski12

Thailand was colonized by Cambodia, Burma and Laos for 100's years each.

Thailand didn't even exist when Burma and earlier the Khmer empire occupied much of modern day Thailand, formerly Siam. And when did Laos occupy Thailand for hundreds of years??

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Originally Posted by Bangyai

But decided to keep their language (Mon-Khmer)

I don't think so. There are some words that are similar but as far as I know modern Thai is derived from the Tai Kadai language group.

Tai




Whereas :

Khmer language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Although as the above link says :

The Khmer language has influenced, and also been influenced by, Thai, Lao, Vietnamese and Cham, all of which, due to geographical proximity and long-term cultural contact, form a sprachbund in peninsular Southeast Asia.

And both have been influenced by Sanskrit and Pali for their written forms.

I remember on my first trip to Phnom Penh , a samlor driver giving me directions to Sharkies and him using the word drawng for go straight, which is almost identical to Thai.

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Originally Posted by cdnski12
Thailand was colonized by Cambodia, Burma and Laos for 100's years each.

Thailand didn't even exist when Burma and earlier the Khmer empire occupied much of modern day Thailand, formerly Siam. And when did Laos occupy Thailand for hundreds of years??

Yep

Never was a Thailand until the Thais turned up. Before the Khmers turned up it was Dvaravati territory



Dvaravati - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thailand actually has Vietnam war veterans. They hold a ceremony every year in their honor. As I recall there were 26,000 sent.

Originally Posted by ltnt

Thailand actually has Vietnam war veterans. They hold a ceremony every year in their honor. As I recall there were 26,000 sent.

Yes . I didn't know until I met one in Ranong. I'd just got in to town going south and was eating some noodles when this old bloke came up to me and said

" Hello " ................. as they do

And I thought....' here we go again, some twat on the scrounge using the only English word he knows '

How wrong can you be. He sat down, introduced himself in very good English, apologised for interupting my meal , but couldn't resist the chance to speak English for the first time since serving as a Captain in the Thai army in Vietnam. Turned out to be a nice , genuine bloke. Didn't talk about the war much except to say he was very happy when he was rotated home. Chatted with him for 30 minutes before he politely took his leave after thanking me for my time.

Can't always judge a book by its cover.

Originally Posted by ltnt

Thailand actually has Vietnam war veterans. They hold a ceremony every year in their honor. As I recall there were 26,000 sent.

And probably wasn't necessary....Thai involvement.
They certainly weren't threatened with an overwhelming American military presence within the borders - even with the "unstability" surrounding them in Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam.

More of an agreement/deal with American authorities at the time.

Thailand, insofar as its modern boundaries, has never been conquered or fully colonized by a single foreign state, but what is that supposed to mean anyway? Parts of it were, in several regions, and it occurred numerous times, by other Southeast Asian states and the French/British, too. It's like saying China was never colonized because only parts of it were. What's the shame in that, really? Everybody's country has been colonized in whole or in part at some point in time in the historical past.

To answer an earlier question, as a high school social studies teacher, I can confirm that the students are taught that they were never colonized by Europe, which is partially true, but misleading. They aren't taught shit about the several Franco-Siamese wars, regardless of the victor, for instance. They aren't taught about the major loss of territories to the British from 1893-1909, in both the north and the south. They aren't taught that Siam was a regional colonial power itself, although when I've mentioned it to students, they seemed impressed with that fact.

History in Thai schools is focused on hagiography of the monarchy, mainly.

Originally Posted by xanax

Originally Posted by Bangyai

The Thais did actually resist the invading Japanese at Prachuab Kiri Khan, but the Thai government ordered an end to the brief resistance .

They threw in the towel after one day of 'resistance'- pathetic. Ask any Thai what 'victory' monument is all about and you will take a long time finding one who can tell you, another farce there.

They French of SE Asia.

^Recall, the Brits and French couldn't hold on to what they had in SEA at the beginning of WWII and for the most part abandoned it or surrendered to the Japanese...who occupied large parts of Thailand throughout the war without objection since Thailand became one of their allies more or less.

When the British were in Burma didn't they have some agreement with Thailand that essentially said give us X amount of goods and we won't invade. or did I imagine that. I'm sure I read that before.

seen this:
Thailand During World War II (1941–44) After World War II broke out in Europe (1939– 45), Japan used its influence with the Vichy regime in France to obtain territorial concessions for Thailand in Laos and Cambodia. The war for Thailand began in earnest on December 8, 1941, when Thai and Japanese troops clashed on the Isthmus of Kra. Bangkok acceded to Japan’s demands that its troops be permitted to cross the isthmus to invade Burma and Malaya. In January 1942, Phibun signed a mutual defense pact with Japan and declared war against Britain and the United States. Seni Pramoj, the anti-Japanese Thai ambassador to Washington, refused his government’s orders to deliver the declaration of war, and the United States refrained from declaring war on Thailand. Seni organized a Free Thai movement, and, with U.S. government support, Thai personnel were trained for anti-Japanese underground activities. In Thailand, Pridi ran a clandestine movement that, by the end of the war, with Allied aid had armed more than 50,000 Thai to resist the Japanese. During the early war years, Phibun was rewarded for his cooperation with Tokyo with the return of further territory that had once been under Thai control. Japan stationed some 150,000 troops in Thailand and built the infamous “death railway” across the River Kwai and through Thailand using Allied prisoners of war. The Allies bombed Bangkok during the war, and public opinion and the civilian political leaders forced Phibun out of office in June 1944.


History of Thailand

^ Then enters the infamous Jim Thompson saga and CIA connections mystery.

^sorry...what infamous jim thompson saga/CIA mystery?

Google: Jim Thompson

Related to the OP :

With Thailand under Japanese occupation, Kelantan returned to Thai rule when the Japanese invaded Malaya - an allowance to Thailand from their occupiers

https://teakdoor.com/business-finance...-kelantan.html (First Day Cover : Thai occupation of Kelantan valued at $38,500)

I'm guessing Thais are not taught the bit that the only reason they weren't colonised was because they gave huge chunks of territory away in return for not being colonised. They were basically victims of extortion.

Earth shattering analysis!

You learn something new everyday don't you? little jonny.

^Happens a lot here. Not to worry nobody really cares what you write or how much sense it makes or contribution to a topic. We just like to kick your ass for the pure pleasure it gives us. Of course this is always followed by, "nothing personal, but are you gay?"

I said "Oh dear" ... so going along with the suspected logical abilities of this little section of the site ... I must be.

Anyway ... going another step, I'd say the current laws against big noses owning land are related/connected to the arse saving land giveaway of yesteryear. They're terrified of losing more.