Thread: Got .. poor English..?

Originally Posted by Koojo

What nationality other than the English do you find tolerable Marmite?

Who said I find all the English tolerable? Those northerners are just as bad as the Yanks. And as for that lot from the Midlands!

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Koojo

What nationality other than the English do you find tolerable Marmite?

Who said I find all the English tolerable? Those northerners are just as bad as the Yanks. And as for that lot from the Midlands!

Ah, my apologies.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

And as for that lot from the Midlands!

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Fine upstanding gentleman and the true backbone of England.

Originally Posted by Ascotkiwi

or maybe "Yeah Nah - we done good but"

Yeah-nah. Good comment but ["I'll think of a possibeobjection to it later"]

So the end of the sentence "but" is a clever device to reserve praise or judgement.

"Yeah-nah, good game, played alright but...

In the Western USA, which is less formal than, say the Northeast, it's perfectly OK to use "got" per your original post in casual conversation. But you wouldn't generally write it other than a forum post or text message. And in formal conversations like a job interview, not so much either.

^ that's a fair post. It's all related to genre/mode and other localized cultural elements such as dialect.

Originally Posted by can123

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Your punctuation is worse than your spelling.

So is yours. See post 65 - there should be no comma after and.

But this is fun - pedantics throwing handbags at dawn ...!

Originally Posted by Neo

I speak 'Southern British English' apparently.

That's you fucked then, straight away.

Though I am quite lazy if I'm not concentrating on what I say... be^er instead of better wa^er instead of water etc

Quite.

BTW, what's a carrot cruncher or a northern monkey?

Originally Posted by Mister Fixit

BTW, what's a carrot cruncher or a northern monkey?

A native speaker would know that.

only proper natives, not those northern carrot cruncher ones

Originally Posted by blue

My favourite pet hate is the grammar snob parents , forever reminding thier offspring to use 'pardon ?' rather than 'what ?' -

Isn't that lazy English?

Shouldn't it be: I beg, on bended knee, your pardon Sir?

Why are so many English language snobs? I can't say I've come across it in any other nation. The beer not good enough to keep you occupied?

Any truth that the Irish have been downgraded as non native speakers? I pissed myself when I heard that.

Originally Posted by Neo

I was taught to believe that using 'got' is poor and lazy English.
Of course I use it, and it seems nowadays everyone uses it, it's all over the media and no doubt probably creeping into English teaching resources.
It seems also that 'got' covers a multitude of meanings, so what does it really mean and is it ok to use it if you are trying to help others to speak English correctly?

For example:
I've got - I have
Have you got? - do you have?
Got it - I understand
When he got there - when he arrived

and how about 'get' instead of fetch, take, arrive, understand etc..?

As a learner, ' got ' is past and past participle of ' get ' and there are tenses in English. My understanding is that you can use different forms or tenses to mean the same thing. I agree that that ' get and got ' are frequently used - maybe it is easy to remember.

Bloody Yanks and their horrid use of got:

^bloody brilliant! I've given you a green (not) cause I don't know how LMFAO hahaha

Originally Posted by Panty Hamster

Originally Posted by can123

people who use American slang are beneath me.

Strewth, innit?

Anybody who wears a baseball cap when he is not playing baseball is a fool.

Even when they're outside and want to keep the sun out of their eyes?

Sorry, do you know what the sun is?

Damn Yankees.

Originally Posted by Panty Hamster

"All that which Henry fifth had gotten?" -- King Henry VI, part III: III, iii
"With much ado at length have gotten leave." -- King Richard II, V, v

Amazing how English has devolved, eh?

Now ear twere us yanks been pegged 123. Blimey twere the limey. Now hwers me cap? Ah, twere next to me blun'der-buss.