Not enough facts in that report for me to form an opinion
"Thousands of images of young boys ....... were found in a dumpster."
"facing two charges of possession of child pornography"
Possible he had discarded the entire collection as nowhere does it state that images were found in his posession.
Thanks I was really worried about thatOriginally Posted by Whiteshiva
He admitted possession. He wants to rid himself of the 'obsession', hence the dumping of the collection, it seems.Originally Posted by Thetyim
More bad PR possibly because of the few screwballs that come to LOS to teach.
I think most are good folks, but the few apples can focus people to view the entire barrel negatively.
Yes, I gathered that.Originally Posted by stroller
If he had dumped the entire collection then I can understand why the judge would go easy on him.
However I would have guessed that he dumped it because he was about to leave for thailand and couldn't take it with him.
Last edited by Thetyim; 11-01-2007 at 01:34 PM.
child pornography is a crime against children. whether you physically take part in the act, or abet the act because you download the images really is a moot point. and 4 years old is just sick. moreover, most of his "punishment" will be uneforceable once he gets back to LoS
Preumably he'll have to do the community service first and complete his psyiatric course before leaving?
Aren't there travel restrictions for registerd offenders in Canada? Well, maybe not.
And then he will come back to Thailand and get a job again thru ajarn and start teaching young kids again
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I think this is the main reason for the new background checks for non immigrant B purposes.
Not going to stop him teaching illegally though.
Yes, WS, that is the whole point.Originally Posted by Rigger
Some child has to have been damaged terribly for anyone to be able to watch child pornography.
It is not a victimless crime.
Stroller, I think you are being too generous to this man.Originally Posted by stroller
In my opinion he dumped it because he was moving out of where he lived and was coming to Thailand.
I know Lily, and as I pointed out above, I didn't read the OP properly, and assumed that it was simply pictures of naked kids. I am a father myself, and have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for anyone who deprives a kid of a happy childhood, be it physical or mental abuse.
Now as to whether he was genuinely trying to change, or was simply attempting to cover his tracks before moving to Thailand is purely speculation.
BTW - I have a handful (say about dozen) of nude pictures of small boys on my computer - does that make me a pervert or a criminal?
And before I get redded/banned/castrated by the TD mob, let me add that these are pictures of my own kids playing in the pool and running around the living room after their evening bath, most of them taken by my wife.
Any error in tact, fact or spelling is purely due to transmissional errors...
whichever way you cut it, it's 'unfortunate' that he'll be given the chance to return to LoS - boyfriend or no boyfriend. Indeed, if the boot was on the other foot, you think his Thai boyfriend would have had the chance to reutrn to Canada? Unlikely, at best
^But the point is, that you don't have them for some kind of sexual gratification.
Would you have any objection to people who would get turned on by it, looking at your innocent photos of your boys? It wouldn't hurt your kids.
Yes, of course you would object to that, so other children should be protected by society if the people who care for them and should protect them, dont.
referring to the resume posted on aj.
native tagalog speaker......... canadian.....farang?
send the bloke back to the phils.
and are the background checks legit from native speaking countries, such as the phils, or even required?
being part of asia and all. purest of pure.
Probably, but what if there were firm evidence that pedophiles by viewing (and presumably jerking off to) pictures of naked kids would be less likely to live out their fantasies in real life? (And I am not saying it is!)
As I stated earlier, I do not know much about this issue (like most of the posters here, I believe ), but I believe the whole issue is more complicated than some people are willing to admit.
For example, in some countries an adult sleeping with a 16 year old is a criminal, in other countries he is not breaking any rules whatsoever. So what is a hideous crime in one geographical location is no dig deal somewhere else. Who is right?
In my country of origin, a man would (I believe) be jailed if he went to bed with a girl the day before her 16th birthday, but a day later it would be purely a matter between two adults. Legally it is a big difference, but for the two people involved 24 hours would make no difference whatsoever. Does that make sense?
Our views on this matter is very much influenced by cultural and religious norms, as well as laws (usually based on culture/religion) and the subject does evoke very strong feelings amongst most people. I believe some of the hystria around pedophilia ends up affecting most men, inasmuch as we have to watch our actions around other people's children, not because we feel sexually attracted to them, but because our actions may so easily be be misunderstood.
I have seen a close friend of mine go through hell, and almost driven to commit suicide for being wrongfully accused of child molesting. He almost lost his job, and if it hadn't been for the support of his friends and family probably would have taken his own life. I can only guess at the stress, anguish and shame he must have felt.
I think it is extremely important to protect children from predatory adults, but we need to keep things in perspective.
And - for those of you who still haven't understood it (Rigger and other MC people in particular): I am by no means defending child molestation, just trying to discuss the subject. Ah - why do I even bother......?
Never said you wereOriginally Posted by Whiteshiva
If they have or did have pictures of kidy porn they are guilty as far as I am concernd no mater if they lived out there fantasy or not.
This type of thing is black and white as far as the laws in most western countrys so they know the score
Fair enough. Now define kidy (sic!) porn. Do pictures of naked children constitute pornography?
So you think having sex with a 16 year old on his/her birthday is legitimate, but anyone is caught sleeping with someone who is 15 years, 364 day old should be punished for child molesation? Now that would be black & white, wouldn't it?
But there has to be a line in the sand somewhere and societies put that line in the place where they feel comfortable.Originally Posted by Whiteshiva
Those laws now are only invoked anyway, if the man is in a far greater position of power than the other party who is 16 tomorrow. If the partners are close in age, I haven't heard of anyone being prosecuted for thirty years or more.
But the fact of the matter is, that possesssing and viewing child pornography is against the law in most places and if someone is willing to break the law to satisfy his appetite for child porn or even pictures of naked children, then it is more likely, in my opinion that he will break the laws about sexual contact.
Just to view that, means to me, that the person has no empathy or no respect for the child's right to innocence.
16 is the age of consent in the UK, USA I believe it is 18, so if you talk about shagging a 16 year old bird in the USA you are a child molestor?
Well, you could say that about anything.Originally Posted by Whiteshiva
What if there were firm evidence that if people were allowed to assault people whenever they felt like it, proved that the murder rate dropped.
I think the point you are missing is that some children would have to be photographed naked for this, and that is not respecting a child's dignity.
Children should not be compromised to satiate a sexual appetite. In any way.
To take it further than White-shiva, having sex with a 14 year-old (age of consent in Canada) is ok, whereas having a photo of a naked 13 year old is child-molesting?Originally Posted by Rigger
Maybe it's not so b&w after all, Rigger?
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