Thread: Thousands to occupy Wall Street in protest

Yes, they said the same about the early Vietnam war demonstrations. Deja vu?

Despite all the negativity in the news, the U.S. is nowhere near an "Arab Spring" mentality yet. Folks here grumble and complain but most go on with their day to day lives without much awareness of the bigger picture.

We're a narcissistic society - so until something directly affects someone on a visceral level (like sudden spikes in gas prices) then it will be business as usual. At least until the next major catastrophe/depression/terror attack.

Old Anti-Mask Law Foils Wall Street Protestors -- Daily Intel

Since the start of the Occupy Wall Street protest on Saturday, at least five people have been cited for violating a little-known New York law that bans masks at gatherings of two or more people unless it's "a masquerade party or like entertainment." Carnival-style fun isn't exactly the point at the financial district demonstrations, albeit exact goals are still pretty undefined. Nonetheless, demonstrators are now "acutely aware" of the obscure statute, which dates back to uprisings in 1845, when the price of wheat dipped:

After [landowner Stephen Van Rensselaer IV] moved to evict tenants, disgruntled farmers disguised themselves as "Indians," dressed in "calico gowns and leather masks" and attacked agents of the landlords. The court papers said the tactics adopted by these rebel groups ranged from "tarring and feathering" to murder, including a sheriff.

Things are calmer down on Wall Street these days, where members of the so-called "hacktivist" collective Anonymous are donning their signature (and accidentally corporate) Guy Fawkes masks (see here and here) and tweeting at one another. One protestor was also charged with "damage to the sidewalk" for writing a Gandhi quote in chalk on the ground.

I've really come to like Max Keiser. He says it straight. His point about the rogue traders is great.

^ Nice report there !

Swiss Banks have to much money now, to much influx, they do not know what to do with it, trapped in their own game, as it is difficult to find where to invest this money for the return they need to pay interest to their customers...

I looked a bit around on those Micro financing that emerged in India and is now all over. So in Phils such a credit starts at 10% per annum, what is huge and goes to 18% easily if no colateral, so how does this help ? Way to high !

Then if you look on world bank lending, they only lend to money systems such as those micro credit facilities, fantastic, yep they have some branch that will lend to private investors that create real jobs, but again you land on those micro credit with well above 10% PA...

I got a private loan in Switzerland, it was at 5% per annum for a company, i then turned it to a private loan and it is now at 2,5% per Annum what is great, but they only give it to ppl that leave in there somehow, coz i aint living there...

We all work for the Banks at the end !

the wearing of the mask is quite comical,

I wonder what kind of hippies are hiding behind them,

probably the kind of hippies that needs his iPhone 4 to keep in touch with his friends on facebook and twitter

Originally Posted by Hampsha

I've really come to like Max Keiser.

Always good.

The protests still go on...

globalrevolution - live streaming video powered by Livestream


same live video link found here

The Rick Smith Show | Where Working People Come To Talk

Over 50 'Occupy Wall Street' protesters arrested during march on Union Square - NYPOST.com

The one-week Wall Street protest took a violent turn today, with a near-riot breaking out between marchers and the police.
The chaos erupted during an afternoon march of about 500 demonstrators to Union Square as part of the “Occupy Wall Street” movement.
Cops were seen making arrests, herding protesters onto a bus, and in one case, getting into a fistfight with one of the demonstrators.
“Police are going to suppress anything that challenges the status quo,” complained college student Moses Appleton, 24, who made the pilgrimage from Virginia Beach.

A police source said protesters had no permit to march, and extra cops were called in to get the crowd under control.
Cops confirmed several arrests but said a final tally wasn't immediately available. Protesters claimed 55 people were arrested.
Organizers took to Twitter to give a blow-by-blow account of the mayhem, claiming that cops were pepper-spraying women, with at least five being maced in the face.
Protesters, based in Zuccotti Park, first pitched their tents Sept. 17. As they marched, they chanted “Banks got bailed out — we got sold out!”
The planned two-month occupation, pushed by left-leaning groups such as Adbusters, claims it seeks to “restore democracy in America.”
Organizers boasted that 20,000 people would participate, but those numbers have yet to materialize.

Originally Posted by Hampsha

Police are going to suppress anything that challenges the status quo

Indeed. The response to these peaceful protests so far is to attempt to ignore them in the mainstream media, and mass arrests on dubious grounds, ie State intimidation. The Statue of Liberty is increasingly threadbare.

The 'People' do not have the government they want, but they do have the government they collectively deserve.
That's showbiz, folks. In the real world, you have to stand up to be counted.

Originally Posted by sabang

The Statue of Liberty is increasingly threadbare.

Well lets face it was built and supplied by the "Frogs" so it's unlikely to be clothed in the cloak of truth in spite of it's "truth and liberty" inference.

Originally Posted by robuzo

Somehow attacking Wall Street is being construed as "attacking capitalism," as if socializing the losses of banks is capitalism.

Socialising the debts (brought about by greedy wankers) might be palatable if they (the financial gurus) weren't continuing to line their own pockets and those of their greedy political supporters.

The so called "financial professionals" who in my days in the City of London were often referred to as the "financial Barrow boys" in their "wisdom" created this mess but still haven't been held accountable when lets face facts they should have been.

The global banking crash can only be compared with a giant "Ponzi" scheme but has anyone and I mean "anyone" yet been held accountable or will they? I very much doubt they ever will!

I'm not a believer in civil unrest to challenge any elected democratic government, but I'm afraid this time the so called "scroungers" as the privileged wealthy old school tie call them do have a valid complaint.

"Bernie" set the trend and had a wonderful life until he got caught out setting a trend and banged up, can anyone explain to me why he got banged up alone and his apprentices are still living the high life?

Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney

"Bernie" set the trend and had a wonderful life until he got caught out setting a trend and banged up, can anyone explain to me why he got banged up alone and his apprentices are still living the high life?

Token sacrifice.

Great videos from RT. RT is a source for alternative (slanted?) views on the US but they don't seem to have many critical stories against the Russian government. RT seems to be a bit of a political tool of the Russian government in my opinion. I don't know much about this station so maybe I am wrong about this. Although it's news people are probably Americans, they don't seem to ever mention 'Russia' in a negative way. As much as I agree with Max Keiser, he never criticizes as well. Money seems to be their king. As much as they slag off the US media, you could say they are just as hypocritical. Nonetheless I do think what they do bring up about the US and Europe is mostly true. I will continue to watch their station. If they could get past the hypocrisy, they may one day be a lot bigger internationally than they are now.



The woman in the last clip really seems to be with it in my opinion. She mentioned the October 6 demonstation in Washington. That has been talked about much more than this Wall Street protest on the talk shows. Who knows maybe these events will lead to more in the future as groups meet.

October 2011 | Human Needs, Not Corporate Greed

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o..._event_KEY=639

What a load of Ca Ca. This limosiene Liberal Susan Sarandan stopped by Wall St. ton her way to jet off to Italy to offer the protesters 'moral support'!

Shades of Viet Nam protests my ass!

All we need now is Hanoi Jane to show up!

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

All we need now is Hanoi Jane to show up!

Actually that would be a damn good idea- for the publicity value, because it is blatantly being suppressed in the mainstream press. I wonder if she would though? She of course is now worth billions (thanks Ted), and Wall St serves the billionaires.

Larry O'Donnell on MSNBC had a lot to say, and MSNBC put the uncensored videos on their site. Not too surprising, since O'Donnell is no wuss liberal (he self-identifies as a socialist), but Southie who pretty clearly doesn't really love cops.
The Last Word - Rewriting police vs. protesters

Another rally seems to be starting in Los Angeles. The original NYC protest is still going on. I think they've moved to a park somewhere there.

Occupy Wall Street Los Angeles - live streaming video powered by Livestream