I Was Humiliated!

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Originally Posted by flash

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I won't belabor you with any facts since you seem unable to grasp even the fundamentals of the modern atrocities which are committed in the name of Allah.

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So what do you think we should do about all these pesky Muslims?
Don't worry about belaboring me, if I happened to hear something that would change my opinion I'm happy to learn.

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If the USA perseveres in Iraq and manages to help stabilize and unify the people of Iraq that would be a giant step forward and shake up the entire muslim world. That's why the stakes are so high regarding what is going on.
If the USA does a Vietnam style withdrawal it would become a giant catastrophe that would change civilization as we know it.

Education and knowledge is the key. It is gradually taking place now. It's not happening fast.
So if you're the type of person who sways with every public opinion poll you wont see any light at the end of the tunnel other than the train bearing down on you.

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Originally Posted by stroller

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Originally Posted by RDN

Please, God, can you ask the nice Muslim terrorists to blow up a bus in Michigan, just to prove Stroller wrong?

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So now you're praying for a terrorist attack to happen, so booner and yourself feel reinforced in your paranoia? -pathetic!

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:D Well, it was supposed to be light-hearted... but now you've got me wondering: what's the nearest place to Michigan that a Muslim terrorist (wearing a burqa or covering their face) has blown themselves up in a bus.

I'll do a bit of googling and report back. I may be some time... ;)

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

All you bleeding-heart apologists for the Mooslime cause have your collective heads up where the sun don't shine.

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I asked you how many buses have been blown up by veiled women in Michigan, ok, make that the entire US.
Unsurprisingly, no answer, just more wild stereotyping accusations. :rolleyes:

There's no point in argueing against irrational fear and hatred, asking a jew-hating Nazi to show which facts their latest discriminating was based on, only resulted in being named a commie or jew-sympathiser as well.

This thread has prompted me to break my silence after 12 years of anguish.

In 1994 I got on a bus in London.
The only available seat was next to a muslim woman wearing a burka.
I was scared shitless sitting next to her as I thought we were going to explode at every bump in the road.
I was so traumatised by the journey that I could never get on another bus. I lost my job, my wife, my kids and my house was repossesed. My life was ruined by that bus journey.
I was so frightened that I had to leave my homeland and go and live in Thailand.
I have never been able to talk about this until I met a lawyer last week.
I am claiming 12 million pounds damages from the bus company, and a refund of the 70 pence fare. :)

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Moolslims most certainly should be allowed to board busses but with the proviso they uncover their faces and be photographed like everyone else...

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Ehh? The article doesn't mention anything about photos, is it common procedure in the US to take face-pics of everyone who enters a public bus?

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Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Boon Mee Moolslims most certainly should be allowed to board busses but with the proviso they uncover their faces and be photographed like everyone else...

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Faaarrk...things are much worse than I thought!!!

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Originally Posted by Thetyim

This thread has prompted me to break my silence after 12 years of anguish.

In 1994 I got on a bus in London.
The only available seat was next to a muslim woman wearing a burka.
I was scared shitless sitting next to her as I thought we were going to explode at every bump in the road.
I was so traumatised by the journey that I could never get on another bus. I lost my job, my wife, my kids and my house was repossesed. My life was ruined by that bus journey.
I was so frightened that I had to leave my homeland and go and live in Thailand.
I have never been able to talk about this until I met a lawyer last week.
I am claiming 12 million pounds damages from the bus company, and a refund of the 70 pence fare. :)

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Oh dear. This is such a sad story... I've been quite upset by it. Gimme 50 quid immediately. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Moolslims most certainly should be allowed to board busses but with the proviso they uncover their faces and be photographed like everyone else...

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So photography is the key in the war against terror, if a womans face gets photographed she won't blow up a bus??

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Originally Posted by RDN

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Originally Posted by Thetyim

This thread has prompted me to break my silence after 12 years of anguish.

In 1994 I got on a bus in London.
The only available seat was next to a muslim woman wearing a burka.
I was scared shitless sitting next to her as I thought we were going to explode at every bump in the road.
I was so traumatised by the journey that I could never get on another bus. I lost my job, my wife, my kids and my house was repossesed. My life was ruined by that bus journey.
I was so frightened that I had to leave my homeland and go and live in Thailand.
I have never been able to talk about this until I met a lawyer last week.
I am claiming 12 million pounds damages from the bus company, and a refund of the 70 pence fare. :)

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Oh dear. This is such a sad story... I've been quite upset by it. Gimme 50 quid immediately. :rolleyes:

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This is indeed trauma all around. Put me down for 55 quid plus legal fees.

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

So if you're the type of person who sways with every public opinion poll you wont see any light at the end of the tunnel other than the train bearing down on you.

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I'm not the type of person who sways with opinion polls, I'm the type of person with an open mind willing to listen to an agruement, I just don't think the whole muslim world should be held accountable for the actions of a small percentage. Having such a narrow mind puts you in the same bracket as the terrorists.

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So photography is the key in the war against terror, if a womans face gets photographed she won't blow up a bus??

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Well, the pic will be send to central intelligence via wireless, just in case she'll blow the cam and memory card up as well.
If she had been photographed praying at an airport or boarding a bus on the same bus-route before, central will send a SWAT team to apprehend her, she'll most likely prepare a terrorist attack, well, she might not, but better be safe than sorry, eh?

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Originally Posted by flash

I'm not the type of person who sways with opinion polls, I'm the type of person with an open mind willing to listen to an agruement, I just don't think the whole muslim world should be held accountable for the actions of a small percentage. Having such a narrow mind puts you in the same bracket as the terrorists.

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So mr Broadminded how do you propose we hold dialogue with homicide bombers?
Do you suppose you can talk some sense into the fanatics in Iran
Do you think we should have continued to "negotiate" with Saddam after 10 years of his flaunting UN resolutions?

Please share your brilliance with us!

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Originally Posted by stroller

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So photography is the key in the war against terror, if a womans face gets photographed she won't blow up a bus??

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Well, the pic will be send to central intelligence via wireless, just in case she'll blow the cam and memory card up as well.
If she had been photographed praying at an airport or boarding a bus on the same bus-route before, central will send a SWAT team to apprehend her, she'll most likely prepare a terrorist attack, well, she might not, but better be safe than sorry, eh?

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You're nearly there, Stroller, nearly! :)

If we can see her face and can match it to other pictures of her talking to her friends somewhere else, we might be able to find out who she is, where she lives, who she talks to, etc., etc.

In fact, we might be able to find out as much about HER as we do everybody else in Michigan who does NOT cover their face.

And THEN, if she does something wrong, she can be tracked down and prosecuted. Just like everyone else who doesn't cover... blah , blah ,blah.


Of course, if she blows herself up, we can track down her friends and associates, just like we would for anybody else who doesn't cover... blah, blah, bl00dy, blah.


Are you there yet?

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Originally Posted by flash

So photography is the key in the war against terror, if a womans face gets photographed she won't blow up a bus??

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Nothing to do with terrorism
Bus drivers get beaten up and buses get trashed.
The camereas are there to protect drivers and property.
If you hide your face you cannot use the bus.

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

how do you propose we hold dialogue with homicide bombers?

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Since you keep asking this in various threads, let me point out that you can only "negotiate" with suicide bombers before they actually blow. :)
And it's been done before, I'm sure you've heard of police units specialised in this sort of thing.

"The fanatics in Iran" aren't all suicide bombers, just to let you know. ;)

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Originally Posted by RDN

If we can see her face and can match it to other pictures of her talking to her friends somewhere else, we might be able to find out who she is, where she lives, who she talks to, etc., etc.

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Why would you want to do this concerning someone entering a bus? Is it 1984 yet? :p

But anyway, I got the point now.

I never claimed to have the answers.

I just think it wrong to hold every Muslim responsible for terrorist actions.



We have enough religion to hate each other, but not enough to love each other.
Jonathan Swift (1667 - 1745)

Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to
all other countries because you were born in it
--George Bernard Shaw

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Originally Posted by Thetyim

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Originally Posted by flash

So photography is the key in the war against terror, if a womans face gets photographed she won't blow up a bus??

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Nothing to do with terrorism
Bus drivers get beaten up and buses get trashed.
The camereas are there to protect drivers and property.
If you hide your face you cannot use the bus.

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I like this and reminds me of the Florida woman wanting a drivers license WITHOUT showing her face for the photo. Everything for the muslims but don't insult me or my religion.

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Originally Posted by flash

I never claimed to have the answers.

I just think it wrong to hold every Muslim responsible for terrorist actions.

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Absolutely! I don't either. I don't hate muslims or fear them. But I dislike the ones who want to change the way we live in the West just to accomodate their religion.

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Originally Posted by flash

We have enough religion to hate each other, but not enough to love each other.
Jonathan Swift (1667 - 1745)

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Nice!

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Originally Posted by flash

Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it
--George Bernard Shaw

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Crap! GBS was a total wanker.

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Originally Posted by RDN

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Originally Posted by flash Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it
--George Bernard Shaw Crap! GBS was a total wanker.

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regardless of being a wanker or not he has a point, we are born in a country and pledge our allegiance to it, the same goes for religion,every one of us is brain washed to some degree and by the time we are old enough to form our own opinions it's too late.

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Do you think we should have continued to "negotiate" with Saddam after 10 years of his flaunting UN resolutions?

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ahem, Israël is flaunting UN resolutions on a regular basis too, and USA don't seems to mind a lot. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Wallalai

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Do you think we should have continued to "negotiate" with Saddam after 10 years of his flaunting UN resolutions?

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ahem, Israël is flaunting UN resolutions on a regular basis too, and USA don't seems to mind a lot. :rolleyes:

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That's 'cause Israel is a Democracy with free elections.
Apples/Oranges...again:rolleyes:

Does it mean that democracies have the right to flaunt UN resolutions ? Wanker. :)

Democracy for those who fit the racial requirements...
And what about non-proliferation treatments? Israel's nuclear program doesn't stop the US from pumping tax-payers money into this military regime.

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Originally Posted by Wallalai

Does it mean that democracies have the right to flaunt UN resolutions ? Wanker. :)

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It means, tosspot, that headchopper countries like the rest of the ME don't meet the civilization IQ of say Israel - the Garden of the ME?:D