Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Let me say again for those of you with short memories,I have never said that I don’t think the climate is changing. To the contrary I have stated that I am well aware of a changing climate and the possible ramifications,what I have said is that I am not convinced that humankind and their actions are the biggest causes.

That's because you're an idiot who believes all the tosh you keep watching on Fox News.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

That's because you're an idiot who believes all the tosh you keep watching on Fox News.

Did the the video I shared come from Fox News,no and neither does most of what I learn about climate change. If you actually watched the video and digested what it had to say you would see there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable. No you didn’t watch the video did you because you can’t risk your masters learning you might actually be seeking the truth by looking at all sides.
And it is not just this one video if you were interested in looking for the truth there is much out there to study.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Did the the video I shared come from Fox News,no and neither does most of what I learn about climate change. If you actually watched the video and digested what it had to say you would see there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable. No you didn’t watch the video did you because you can’t risk your masters learning you might actually be seeking the truth by looking at all sides.
And it is not just this one video if you were interested in looking for the truth there is much out there to study.

"there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable".

No you fucking moron. The Koch Brothers, the Oil companies and Fox News want you to think "there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable".

Posting fucking propaganda Youtube videos is for people who think chemtrails are a government conspiracy.

Go and have another nap you silly old fool.

Better still, read some actual SCIENCE.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

"there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable".

No you fucking moron. The Koch Brothers, the Oil companies and Fox News want you to think "there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable".

Posting fucking propaganda Youtube videos is for people who think chemtrails are a government conspiracy.

Go and have another nap you silly old fool.

Better still, read some actual SCIENCE.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

i have read those reports,and I still say the science is inconclusive,just because you and your masters say it’s true doesn’t necessarily make it true. Get out from under your masters thumbs and look at both sides and try to form your own conclusions,you might be surprised at how little you actually know.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

i have read those reports,and I still say the science is inconclusive,just because you and your masters say it’s true doesn’t necessarily make it true. Get out from under your masters thumbs and look at both sides and try to form your own conclusions,you might be surprised at how little you actually know.

So, on the one hand you say the climate change science is inconclusive, and thus must be rejected or at least looked at skeptically, while on the other hand you provide no "conclusive" proof that climate change is not real and support the "science" behind climate denial.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

So, on the one hand you say the climate change science is inconclusive, and thus must be rejected or at least looked at skeptically, while on the other hand you provide no "conclusive" proof that climate change is not real and support the "science" behind climate denial.

Not sure how you reached the conclusion that I think climate change is not real as I have stated many times I think it is quite easy to see the climate is changing,and I will say this again for the benefit of those who don’t read so well, what I am not convinced of is the extent us humans have in the changing climate. Considering what I just wrote I have no reason to show conclusive evidence that climate change is not real.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

i have read those reports,and I still say the science is inconclusive,just because you and your masters say it’s true doesn’t necessarily make it true. Get out from under your masters thumbs and look at both sides and try to form your own conclusions,you might be surprised at how little you actually know.

They are not just "reports", they are the result of decades of scientific research by thousands of scientific experts.

All you watch is pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo designed to convince you that nothing can be done so the polluters can continue business as usual.

They are your masters. And you are their very stupid, old slave.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They are not just "reports", they are the result of decades of scientific research by thousands of scientific experts.

All you watch is pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo designed to convince you that nothing can be done so the polluters can continue business as usual.

They are your masters. And you are their very stupid, old slave.

First of all have I ever stated that something doesn’t need to be done to cut back on the use of carbon fuels,no I have not. But from all I read carbon fuels are not the major source of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere nor will eliminating carbon fuels achieve the goals that the alarmists say needs to be achieved. So why are you intent on punishing those who gave the world the advancements that have been achieved in the last 100 or so years,how about spending the energy trying to take down the people who have given the world the advancements in civilization we have come to know and applying it to things that actually might make a near term difference like replanting co2 eating forests.
You say any research or facts disputing what your carbon fuel hating researchers put is pseudoscience I dispute that and you have never shown anything beyond dispute to prove what you say. What I see is George Soros and his one world government buddies using the climate change issue to their benefit and they have drawn you in hook line and sinker. Wake up get out from behind your blinders say good by to your one world government masters and look around you would be surprised to see waha’s out there.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

First of all have I ever stated that something doesn’t need to be done to cut back on the use of carbon fuels,no I have not. But from all I read carbon fuels are not the major source of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere nor will eliminating carbon fuels achieve the goals that the alarmists say needs to be achieved. So why are you intent on punishing those who gave the world the advancements that have been achieved in the last 100 or so years,how about spending the energy trying to take down the people who have given the world the advancements in civilization we have come to know and applying it to things that actually might make a near term difference like replanting co2 eating forests.
You say any research or facts disputing what your carbon fuel hating researchers put is pseudoscience I dispute that and you have never shown anything beyond dispute to prove what you say. What I see is George Soros and his one world government buddies using the climate change issue to their benefit and they have drawn you in hook line and sinker. Wake up get out from behind your blinders say good by to your one world government masters and look around you would be surprised to see waha’s out there.

Oh here we go, banging about about George Soros because you've been watching Fox News and you haven't got a fucking clue.

It's not about "punishment", is that some stupid line you got off Hannity?

It's about switching to renewables which not only cuts emissions, but actually creates jobs.

You are the one that's being fed bullshit and sucking it up through a straw, you silly old fart.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

what I have said is that I am not convinced that humankind and their actions are the biggest causes

Who cares what you think, it's irrelevant, because anthropogenic-driven change is a major factor and driver.

You might as well say you're not convinced oxygen is real.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

"there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable".

No you fucking moron. The Koch Brothers, the Oil companies and Fox News want you to think "there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable".

Posting fucking propaganda Youtube videos is for people who think chemtrails are a government conspiracy.

Go and have another nap you silly old fool.

Better still, read some actual SCIENCE.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

Maybe you could refute every fact stated in the video with links to prove.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

"there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable".

No you fucking moron. The Koch Brothers, the Oil companies and Fox News want you to think "there is much about climate science yet to be realized and a lot of what is being published is highly questionable".

Posting fucking propaganda Youtube videos is for people who think chemtrails are a government conspiracy.

Go and have another nap you silly old fool.

Better still, read some actual SCIENCE.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

Maybe you could refute every fact stated in the video with links to prove.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They are not just "reports", they are the result of decades of scientific research by thousands of scientific experts.

All you watch is pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo designed to convince you that nothing can be done so the polluters can continue business as usual.

They are your masters. And you are their very stupid, old slave.

No they are reports,reports of the results of these studies.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

No they are reports,reports of the results of these studies.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Maybe you could refute every fact stated in the video with links to prove.

Pick one. Just one. Any one.

Antarctica is the font of bad news that just keeps on giving. Thwaites Glacier, among the most threatened hunks of ice on the continent, is in even more dire straits than previously reported. Its melt from above and below is being aided by newly discovered cavities below the ice, as chronicled in Science Advances on Wednesday.


The gaping hole in the ice has a footprint two-thirds the size of Manhattan and is tall enough to fit the Statue of Liberty three times over. In other words, no dentist is fixing this. Instead, it could potentially spell doom for not just Manhattan but other coastal areas by speeding along the destruction of Thwaites, pushing more land ice into the sea.


Thwaites Glacier is located in West Antarctica, an area that is facing what could be runaway melt owing to geography and inescapable heat. The bedrock under Thwaites and other glaciers in the region slopes downward further inland, allowing that warm water to rot out the glaciers from underneath. The region is the fastest melting part of Antarctica, and losing the land ice could lead to more than 10 feet of sea level rise.

The discovery of cavity beneath Thwaites Glacier along with a number of other disconcerting features offer a new wrinkle to the harrowing tale of West Antarctica. Scientists used a combination of ice-penetrating radar flown on NASA planes and European satellite data to capture what’s going on. The measurements resolve fine-scale details of what happens where the ice meets the bedrock. Or, it turns out more accurately, where the ice doesn’t meet the bedrock.

The data revealed yawning caverns under the ice, the biggest of which is the aforementioned half-Manhattan sized gap. That cavity is big enough to hold 14 billion tons of ice or 5.6 million Olympic-sized swimming pools. Instead, it’s allowing warm water to get up under the glacier and speed along its retreat. Oh, and it could be growing.

“[The size of] a cavity under a glacier plays an important role in melting,” said the study’s lead author, Pietro Milillo, a scientist at NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory who led the study, said in a press release. “As more heat and water get under the glacier, it melts faster.”

The glacier isn’t retreating uniformly. The fastest retreat of floating ice is about a half mile a year with various areas thinning at up to 650 feet per year. The findings also show that the grounding line—where the ice meets the bedrock—migrates over a much larger scale than previously thought due to tidal mixing, and includes channels under parts of the ice that give warm water greater access to the interior part of the glacier. Ditto for the monster cavity.

These are all important factors that aren’t included in how researchers model ice shelves and glaciers and could lead to an even quicker retreat and faster sea level rise. Suddenly that wild Antarctic wall idea isn’t looking so outlandish.

https://earther.gizmodo.com/theres-a...red-1832231144

Originally Posted by RPETER65 (Any doubts about Climate Change?)
Let me say again for those of you with short memories,I have never said that I don’t think the climate is changing. To the contrary I have stated that I am well aware of a changing climate and the possible ramifications,what I have said is that I am not convinced that humankind and their actions are the biggest causes."

Those are pretty much my feelings as well.

Well your feelings don't really matter.

Because science.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

So accurate an analogy!

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Well your feelings don't really matter.

Because science.

Australia had hottest month on record in January, heatwave to continue: weather bureau

MELBOURNE (Reuters) - Australia endured its hottest month on record in January, with sweltering conditions expected to persist through April, the country’s weather bureau said on Friday.

The heatwave, which saw temperatures above 40 Celsius (104 Fahrenheit) for several days straight in some areas, was mainly due to a high pressure system off the southeast coast that blocked cooler air from coming in, the Bureau of Meteorology said.

A delayed monsoon also kept cooler, moist air coming in from the north, and a warming trend that has pushed Australian temperatures up by more than 1C in the last 100 years also contributed to the heat, said Andrew Watkins, a senior climatologist at the bureau.

Scorching weather last month triggered power outages in some areas and sent electricity prices soaring, while bushfires have destroyed homes in the southern island state of Tasmania.

“For maximum temperatures, for minimum temperatures and for mean temperatures, it’s not only been our hottest January on record, it’s actually been our hottest month on record, and those records go back to 1910,” Watkins said in a video on the bureau’s website.

“Odds are favoring that heat continuing at least through February into March and April,” he said.

The mean temperature for January across the country exceeded 30C, the bureau said.

The two most populous states, New South Wales and Victoria, recorded their warmest average, low and high temperatures for January.

At the same time, New South Wales suffered one of the driest Januarys on record, while Victoria had less than 20 percent of its average January rainfall.

Tasmania, which depends on hydropower, experienced its driest January on record.

Western Australia had its driest January since 2005.

The weather bureau said on Thursday that the west coast faces hot, dry weather over the next three months, which will dent the outlook for wheat production in the world’s fourth-largest exporter.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-au...PQ3FI?rpc=401&

New data confirms last year was one of the warmest ever recorded, and British meteorologists are predicting the next five years will be even hotter than 2018.\


The U.S. government's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said 2018's average global temperature was 58.42 degrees Fahrenheit, or 14.69 Celsius. That's 1.42 degrees (0.79 Celsius) warmer than the 20th century average.

The latest figures mean 2018 ranks as the fourth-hottest year since modern record-keeping began in 1880. Nine of the 10 warmest years on record have all occurred since 2005.

NOAA said the average temperature for the contiguous U.S. in 2018 was 53.5 degrees Fahrenheit, making it a warmer-than-average year for the 22nd year in a row.


The United Kingdom Met Office, the U.K.'s weather service, said global temperatures over the next five years will average somewhere between 58.51 and 59.49 degrees Fahrenheit, or 14.73 to 15.27 Celsius. That would be warmer than the last four years.

"2015 was the first year that global annual average surface temperatures reached 1.0 °C above pre-industrial levels and the following three years have all remained close to this level," Adam Scaife, head of Long-Range Prediction at the Met Office, said Wednesday in a news release. "The global average temperature between now and 2023 is predicted to remain high, potentially making the decade from 2014 the warmest in more than 150 years of records."

The British office along with NOAA, NASA and the World Meteorological Organization analyze global temperatures in slightly different ways, but they all came to the same conclusion Wednesday: 2018 was the fourth-warmest year on record behind 2016, 2015 and 2017.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/earth-c...iod-on-record/

But, but, but...North America and Britain are having a huge freeze!