Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Global Warming - another load of bollocks thought up by the yanks to distract attention from their global murdering and destruction.

Yeah, did you understand the bollocks this accountant wrote, or did you just believe a few words?

So you're just posting more bollocks that's over your head.

The “report” to which Palmer referred was actually a series of blog posts, written by climate change denier Paul Homewood, which were then highly publicized in two stories by Christopher Booker in the Daily Telegraph in London. Both writers focused on the adjustments made to temperature readings at certain monitoring stations around the world, and claimed that those adjustments throw the entire science of global warming into question. This is not at all the case, and those adjustments are a normal and important part of climate science.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the U.S. agency responsible for monitoring national and global temperature trends, has addressed these types of adjustments several times before. NOAA addresses the subject in a Q&A on its website:
Q: What are some of the temperature discrepancies you found in the climate record and how have you compensated for them?

Over time, the thousands of weather stations around the world have undergone changes that often result in sudden or unrealistic discrepancies in observed temperatures requiring a correction. For the U.S.-based stations, we have access to detailed station history that helps us identify and correct discrepancies. Some of these differences have simple corrections.

Nothing False About Temperature Data

Originally Posted by Dapper

Global Warming - another load of bollocks thought up by the yanks to distract attention from their global murdering and destruction.

Oh look, the Window Licker's here to make a tit of himself.

dapper?

The size of starving coho salmon and the numbers of the fish are shrinking so dramatically that officials along the US Pacific Coast are considering shutting down commercial and recreational salmon fishing in Washington and northern Oregon this year.

"We're looking at a pretty bad situation for coho and we need to do what we can to preserve them," said Kyle Adicks, salmon policy analyst for the state Department of Fish and Wildlife. Closing fisheries is "an extreme option but it's an option we're looking at," he told the Washington Herald.

The ban would be the first one since 1994. Salmon fishing has been significantly curtailed since 2008. California, too, faces severe restrictions on commerical chinook salmon fishing this year.

The 2015 salmon season was one of the lowest harvests on record due to drought and the drying up of rivers and streams where the fish spawn, and what's known among scientists as "The Blob" — a mass of warm coastal ocean water from Mexico to Alaska caused by global warming that has driven typical food for the salmon far deeper into the ocean.

As bad as last year was, 2016 looks even bleaker. Approximately 380,000 Columbia River hatchery coho are expected to return to the Washington coast this year, which is only half of last year's forecast, reports the Associated Press.

Some 300,000 chinook salmon from California's Sacramento River system made it back to the ocean after spawning, which is also about half of last year's population.

The Blob has not only slashed numbers of salmon, but their weight as well, scientists have found. The Skagit River coho salmon run in Washington in 2015 was the worst on record. Not only were the numbers of surviving fish at record lows — only 12% of a typical run — most of the fish were starving and extremely low weight, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association.

While an average adult coho spawning in the Skagit usually weighs up to 8 pounds, the vast majority of fish that returned to the ocean in the fall of 2015 were less than half of that. "I personally have never seen them any smaller, and I have been doing this for 26 years," said Brett Barkdull, a district biologist based in Skagit County.

Before settling on a fishing ban, officials are also considering two other options that would severely restrict fishing. The Pacific Fishery Management Council will make its determination in April and forward its recommendation to federal officials for a final decision by the first of May.

"We know that severely limiting opportunities will hurt many families and communities that depend on these fisheries," Jim Unsworth, director of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, said in a statement. "But conserving wild salmon is our top priority."

A shutdown of salmon fishing will have tremendous economic consequences along the coast. It would affect fishermen's livelihoods as well as the tourism industry in many towns that rely on recreational anglers.

"It's not what we want to see, since all the coastal fishing communities are dependent on tourism and our commercial fishers going out and catching salmon," Butch Smith, owner of Coho Charters in Washington, told the News Tribune. "That's our Microsoft and Boeing out here on the coast. Fishing is our lifeblood."

Salmon starving amid global warming may trigger fishing ban in Washington and Oregon

It seems Australia is now waking up to the consequences of unfettered climate change.

HOW WE'RE SWELTERING:

* Max temps at least 4C above average, from March 1 to 4

* Temps 8 to 12C above average for most of southeast

* Record 39 straight days over 26C in Sydney

* Perth had more 40C days this summer than ever before

* Melbourne had hottest March night on record, at peak of 38.6C

* Canberra had 10 straight days of 30C or more

* Echuca, VIC, and Tocumwal, NSW, sweltered through eight straight days of 38C or more in March, breaking records for any month of the year

* Temperature records shattered around the world, with this January and February hotter than any other

(Source: Climate Council)

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2...action-report?

Our planet went through a dramatic change last month. Climate experts revealed that February was the warmest month in recorded history, surpassing the previous global monthly record – set in December. An unprecedented heating of our world is now under way.

With the current El Niño weather event only now beginning to tail off, meteorologists believe that this year is destined to be the hottest on record, warmer even than 2015.

Nor is this jump in global temperature a freak triggered by an unusually severe El Niño, say researchers. “It is the opposite,” said Professor David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey. “This is a catch-up of a recent hiatus that has occurred in rising global temperatures. We are returning to normality: rising temperatures. This is an absolute warning of the dangers that lie ahead.”

Those dangers are now being dramatically demonstrated around the globe: drought in the Marshall Islands in the Pacific, which has forced the government there to issue a state of emergency warning; France observed its warmest winter since records began; while the sea ice that has formed in the Arctic this winter is about a million square kilometres less than its average for this time of year.

This latter feature is likely to have particularly profound consequences. “A low sea-ice level in winter will definitely promote a low level of sea ice next summer,” said Vaughan. “Arctic summer ice – which is dwindling dramatically – is changing the region.”

In particular, disappearing sea ice allows more and more ships to get to once unreachable regions in high latitudes. As a result, plans to drill for oil and gas in the Arctic – a prospect that horrifies many scientists and environmental groups – are being prepared by most major oil companies.

Last month’s jump in global temperatures represents an increase of 1.35C above pre-industrial levels and takes the world close to the 1.5C rise that last year’s Paris climate deal was supposed to prevent. “Last month’s figure is a one-off and it remains to be seen if temperatures are going to continue to rise this steeply,” said Professor Richard Betts, head of climate impact research at Exeter University. “We are still not at an established 1.5C rise, but there is no doubt this is a worrying sign.”

Scientists and politicians are keen to hold global warming to 1.5C above pre-industrial levels because they fear that a world that warms to such a level will experience severe loss of ice, particularly from Greenland’s massive shield of glaciers, and that the melting will in turn trigger considerable rises in sea levels.

Scientists warn there are many island states in the Pacific that will simply disappear if the planet undergoes that sort of warming. In addition, if the temperature increases to 1.5C, it will combine with ocean acidification driven by rising carbon dioxide emissions to dissolve the world’s already threatened coral reefs. “That is why last month’s temperature level was so significant – and worrying,” added Betts.

February was the warmest month in recorded history, climate experts say | Environment | The Guardian

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Good article. I hope the indicator of PETM is wrong.

another brave professor
working for the truth in his own time for free

another alarmist myth debunked

The literature thus refute the often heard media claims that glaciers and ice caps are “melting faster than ever“.


In his comment Prof. Marko, a native of Hungary, wondered that the studies cited by Richard were even able “to pass through the meshwork of pro-anthropogenic warming peer reviewers“.


Summarizing the results of the papers, Marko writes that the observations once again “contradict the sordid theories of the IPCC” and that atmospheric CO2 concentrations “absolutely do not correlate with the fluctuations of the levels of the oceans and the movements of advances and withdrawals of glaciers“. He writes that the IPCC science “failed again”.


Marko has been a harsh critic of the man-made climate change theory, appearing in a number of interviews.


In a he blasted COP 21, claiming that it essentially resulted in nothing … “The result of COP 21 is no result” … “because there is nothing binding in this particular treaty“. He adds the only thing to motivate CO2 reductions is “shame”, adding: “To my knowledge no politician knows what shame is at all. They are totally not subject to shame.”


In the interview he reminds listeners that the long-term temperature trend over the Holocene has been downward, and that today’s temperatures were exceeded by a number of other periods over the past 10,000 years. He dismisses the claim that CO2 plays a major role and believes that other far more powerful natural factors and cycles are at work.
Clearly the papers presented by Richard are just the latest evidence on a mountain of literature, which sadly the government-funded IPCC refuses to acknowledge.

Belgian Scientist / Organic Chemistry Professor Calls IPCC Theories ?Sordid? ??Failed Again?

if only this global warming wasn't just a con...
and Britain would warm 10 degree...
Sadly even if the co2 driver was real, there are still just too many counteracting variables
eg our 2 billion little yellow friends:

Professor Li Bengang

China’s Smog Clouds May Prevent Global Warming


I’ve posted articles in the past linking the clean air legislation in the west with more sunshine and therefore more warming. Here is a paper arguing the opposite: the lack of clean air in China is cooling the globe.
China is responsible for just 10 per cent of man-made global warming, despite emitting more than one quarter of the world’s greenhouse gases, a new study claims.
The study found sulphate and nitrate aerosols emitted by burning fossil fuels had a cooling effect that offset much of the warming caused by greenhouse gas emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and black carbon.
As a result, while China’s consumption of fossil fuels and its carbon emissions had increased significantly over the past decades, a corresponding increase in aerosol emissions meant its contribution to man-made climate change had remained largely unchanged since the pre-industrial period.
The findings suggest that China’s severe smog could have a “silver lining” in cooling the globe, and the study said that a campaign to clear the air could actually increase the country’s contribution to man-made warming.
The study was led by Professor Li Bengang at Peking University and published in Nature.

China?s Smog Clouds May Prevent Global Warming | sunshine hours

Originally Posted by blue

if only this global warming wasn't just a con...
and Britain would warm 10 degree...
Sadly even if the co2 driver was real, there are still just too many counteracting variables
eg our 2 billion little yellow friends:

Professor Li Bengang

China’s Smog Clouds May Prevent Global Warming


I’ve posted articles in the past linking the clean air legislation in the west with more sunshine and therefore more warming. Here is a paper arguing the opposite: the lack of clean air in China is cooling the globe.
China is responsible for just 10 per cent of man-made global warming, despite emitting more than one quarter of the world’s greenhouse gases, a new study claims.
The study found sulphate and nitrate aerosols emitted by burning fossil fuels had a cooling effect that offset much of the warming caused by greenhouse gas emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and black carbon.
As a result, while China’s consumption of fossil fuels and its carbon emissions had increased significantly over the past decades, a corresponding increase in aerosol emissions meant its contribution to man-made climate change had remained largely unchanged since the pre-industrial period.
The findings suggest that China’s severe smog could have a “silver lining” in cooling the globe, and the study said that a campaign to clear the air could actually increase the country’s contribution to man-made warming.
The study was led by Professor Li Bengang at Peking University and published in Nature.

China?s Smog Clouds May Prevent Global Warming | sunshine hours

A climate change "expert" who suggests pollution control is causing global warming.

Fucking hell, you are excelling yourself.

Bengang Li and colleagues use biogeochemical and atmospheric models, combined with a suite of observational data sets, to quantify China’s current (2010) and historical (1750 to 2010) contribution to global radiative forcing. They find that carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels is the single biggest contributor to warming, but that methane and black carbon aerosols are also important. They show that sulfate aerosols provide a strong cooling effect, which suggests that efforts to improve air quality could have the effect of accelerating China’s contribution to radiative forcing, unless simultaneous emission reductions are put into place.

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Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

“The longstanding cozy relationship between [government] grant-makers and grantees makes them blind to even the most obvious conflict of interest,” Bonner Cohen, a scholar with a free-market think tank in Washington, told The Daily Signal.

Cohen, senior fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research

Funded by the Koch Brothers and Exxon Mobil to name but two.


You really are thick, aren't you? You never seem to learn.

Cohen added: “The system is thoroughly corrupt.”

His part of it most certainly is.

Typical libtard, nothing to offer about the meat of the article so we will divert attention to the author, and where tha money comes from to pay the bills. LAME!

Do you have evidence to refute anything in the article,if so bring it on or admit you have just made an ass of your self by kicking submit on your post.

This may be a concept beyond your gnat like intellect, but you cannot refute opinion.

You can only point out the factual errors.

You're not very bright are you?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

“The longstanding cozy relationship between [government] grant-makers and grantees makes them blind to even the most obvious conflict of interest,” Bonner Cohen, a scholar with a free-market think tank in Washington, told The Daily Signal.

Cohen, senior fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research

Funded by the Koch Brothers and Exxon Mobil to name but two.


You really are thick, aren't you? You never seem to learn.

Cohen added: “The system is thoroughly corrupt.”

His part of it most certainly is.

Typical libtard, nothing to offer about the meat of the article so we will divert attention to the author, and where tha money comes from to pay the bills. LAME!

Do you have evidence to refute anything in the article,if so bring it on or admit you have just made an ass of your self by kicking submit on your post.

This may be a concept beyond your gnat like intellect, but you cannot refute opinion.

You can only point out the factual errors.

You're not very bright are you?

And where does opinion come in, he is stating facts about congressional questions as to the tax payer money has gone, that is not an opinion it is a fact. Pee brain.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

“The longstanding cozy relationship between [government] grant-makers and grantees makes them blind to even the most obvious conflict of interest,” Bonner Cohen, a scholar with a free-market think tank in Washington, told The Daily Signal.

Cohen, senior fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research

Funded by the Koch Brothers and Exxon Mobil to name but two.


You really are thick, aren't you? You never seem to learn.

Cohen added: “The system is thoroughly corrupt.”

His part of it most certainly is.

Typical libtard, nothing to offer about the meat of the article so we will divert attention to the author, and where tha money comes from to pay the bills. LAME!

Do you have evidence to refute anything in the article,if so bring it on or admit you have just made an ass of your self by kicking submit on your post.

This may be a concept beyond your gnat like intellect, but you cannot refute opinion.

You can only point out the factual errors.

You're not very bright are you?

And where does opinion come in, he is stating facts about congressional questions as to the tax payer money has gone, that is not an opinion it is a fact. Pee brain.

Yeah so a man who takes money from big oil to spout bollocks about climate change claims that it's immoral for scientists who understand climate research to give money to the scientists that seem to be doing the most worthwhile research.

And he did it in response to another scumbag Republican politician who has taken $600,000 from the fossil fuel industry to try and debunk climate science.

You're funny.

And retarded.

this chick has her head screwed on right

looks like she is self funded





Joanne Nova



It?s ?special? science where one Hot Month is the signal, and years of The Pause is just noise. « JoNova

It’s “special” science where one Hot Month is the signal, and years of The Pause is just noise.

We can always rely on Peter Hannam of the Sydney Morning Herald to accidentally advertise the unscientific stars of the Climate Church.

“Spike in global temperature fuels climate change fears”

It used to be that science was symmetrical — the paws of physics worked every day. You know, thou shalt not create nor destroy energy, it’s one of those unarguable things. But UNSW has a new “special” kind of science where the global temperature can pause for years and billions of quadrillions of joules of energy can disappear and who cares? In politically correct science this is noise. But one hot month, caused by an El Nino and strap yourself in, glue on the Armageddon-helmet. Panic-now, Panic-later, Fear and Hellfire. The Mystical Sign has cometh!
Prof Rahmstorf seems a bit confused about what’s “noise” and “signal”


: “It’s important to take this hot spike as a reminder that this is a really urgent problem” said Professor Rahmstorf, who until last week was also a visiting professorial fellow at the University of NSW. “We are running out of time to avoid a 2-degree world.”


Try and imagine him saying this:


“It’s important to take this cold spike as a reminder that this is a really not an urgent problem” said Professor Rahmstorf, who until last week was also a visiting professorial fellow at the University of NSW. “We have lots of time to avoid a 2-degree world.”


Does the Prof’s reasoning work every month or just on “special” ones? Looks like the new “special” science to me.


And here is the Yale grad, and UNSW Prof Stephen Sherwood (the man who changed color scales to make “zero” look red-hot).


Officially he’s a Climate Prof, but this sounds like a Climate-Prophesy.
He has the special gift, a personal crystal ball:
Slowdown is over
Stephen Sherwood, an atmospheric scientist at UNSW-based ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science, said the recent surge in warming indicates the slowdown in surface temperature increases of the past 10-15 years is over.


So sayth the man who “predicted” one hot month in two decades and finally got lucky? Now, despite the models being wrong for 18 years, in a flicker they are “right”. Three years from now if the pause still exists will he give up his job and pay back the salary?


“We knew that was never going to last,” Professor Sherwood said, referring to what had been dubbed a “warming hiatus”. ”We’re back on track to where the models were predicting.”


So climate models got one month right out of 18 years? Err, “Congrats”.
My prediction is that if the world cools by 2023, Sherwood and Rahmsdorf will still not have the honesty to admit they were wrong.


Despite facing “an emergency in slow motion,” political leaders have largely failed to take major steps to start cutting emissions, he [Sherwood] said. ”We’re not even fighting the battle, so of course we’re losing”


This is an emergency in slow motion, but Sherwood is a case study. Our top universities are employing UnScientists and calling them Professors. They break the most baby basic rules of logic and only people who are free of the university-system and other vested interests, can point out the bleeding obvious. What kind of scientist doesn’t understand signal from noise?


So called “journalists” who are supposed to spot this sort of failure are trained by the same universities to be blinded by the starring glow of a title that meant something 30 years ago. No wonder no one wants to pay for the poor reasoning of the Fairfax SMH, they get this sort of fallacy from the ABC for “Free”.


The government is strangling science.

Already covered you mong.

Another one on the payroll.




P.S. Did you catch Alzheimers off RPETER?

so whats will Billary Clinton?
is she discredited if she took cash from fossil fuel industry ?

notice the -- follow the money from BIG this and that -- crowd here are a bit quiet

Hillary Blows Up at Greenpeace Activist | The Weekly Standard

Hillary Clinton lost her cool in an exchange with a Greenpeace activist:
"I am so sick, I am so sick," Clinton says, shouting and wagging her finger at the activist, "of the Sanders campaign lying about me. I'm sick of it."
Greenpeace explained the exchange, "At a Hillary Clinton rally at SUNY Purchase campus today, the presidential candidate lost her patience with a Greenpeace activist who thanked her for her commitment to climate change then asked her whether she'll reject fossil fuel money moving forward. Pointing her finger at activist Eva Resnick-Day, Clinton claimed she only takes money from people who work for fossil fuel companies and called the accusations lies."

Sanders said Clinton owed him and his campaign an apology, according to CNN. 'We were not lying,' he said. 'We were telling the truth.'
'The truth is that Secretary Clinton has relied heavily on funds from lobbyists working for the oil, gas and coal industry,' he continued.
'According to an analysis done by Greenpeace, Hillary Clinton's campaign and her super PAC have received more than $4.5million from the fossil fuel industry.'





Clinton struck back that Sanders' campaign has accepted more than $50,000 from the same individuals

Bernie Sanders demands Hillary Clinton apologize over lie accusations | Daily Mail Online