Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Here's a Big oil company buying big stakes in the renewable energy companies.

1 Big Oil Company That Sees a Future in Renewable Energy -- The Motley Fool

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by birding

Man made climate change is a multi billion dollar industry and those benefiting will continue to push as hard as they can to keep their gravy train running. End of story.

That is a where you have been slipped a mickey by big oil. I fixed your quote to reflect the truth and not your right wing Koch sponsored bullshit;

BIG OIL is a multi TRILLION dollar industry and those benefiting will continue to push as hard as they can to keep their gravy train running. End of story.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Do you have a clue how much money big oil spends

Which rich people finance each side, makes zero difference as to whether the actual science of MMGW is correct or not ,,,
don't you agree ?

US | Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:05pm EST
Related: U.S., Environment, Natural Disasters
Christmastime storms, tornadoes kill at least 41 in U.S



Storms hit southern and central U.S. states over the Christmas holiday, unleashing floods and tornadoes that killed at least 41 people, flattened buildings and snarled transportation for millions during a busy travel time.
At least 11 people were killed in the Dallas area over the weekend by tornadoes, including one packing winds of up to 200 miles per hour (322 km per hour). The twister hit the city of Garland, killing eight people and blowing vehicles off highways.
"A tornado of that strength is very rare in a metropolitan area," National Weather Service meteorologist Matt Bishop said in a telephone interview. Powerful tornadoes are a staple of spring and summer in central states but occur less frequently in winter, according to U.S. weather data
"It is total devastation," Garland Police spokesman Lieutenant Pedro Barineau said. "It is a very difficult time to be struck by such a horrible storm the day after Christmas."
Three other deaths were reported in the Dallas metropolitan area, the United States' fourth most populous with about 7 million residents. Scores of people were injured in the region, officials said.
Three tornadoes were reported in Arkansas on Sunday, the weather service said, but there were no initial reports of significant injuries or damage. The service has issued tornado watches and warnings for areas in that state, as well as in parts of Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi.
A tornado watch means a storm is likely, while a warning means a storm or storms have been sighted.
In Illinois and Missouri, flash flooding killed at least 11 people, officials and local media reported on Sunday.
Six adults drowned when they drove their cars into flooded waterways in Missouri's Pulaski County, said county Sheriff Ron Long.
In neighboring Illinois, Salem-based radio station WJBD reported a family of three adults and two children was driving near the village of Patoka, 85 miles (137 km)east of St. Louis, Missouri, when their car was washed away by floodwaters.
The storms came on the heels of tornadoes that hit two days before Christmas, killing at least 18 people, including 10 in Mississippi.
In Alabama's Coffee County, the body of a man who went missing during those storms was found on Sunday, officials told local media.
In Texas, Governor Greg Abbott said his office had declared Dallas County and three nearby counties disaster areas. He also warned people to be wary of snow in western parts of the state and rivers spilling their banks in other places.
"If you do not need to be on the road, please stay off the road," he said at a news conference.
The weather service issued severe weather advisories for large parts of the central United States, including a blizzard warning for parts of New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas and a flash flood watch stretching from Texas to Indiana.
New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez declared a state of emergency for the entire state due to a winter storm expected to dump up to 2 feet of snow in eastern parts of the state.
The bad weather forced the cancellation of nearly 1,300 flights in the nation as of 4:30 p.m. EST on Sunday, according to tracking service FlightAware.com. About half of the canceled flights were in Dallas, a major U.S. flight hub.

Unseasonably warm weather fuels deadly US tornadoes, as 'historic blizzard' forecast for Texas and Oklahoma



https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/worl...s-and-oklahoma

'Unprecedented' Flooding Soaks UK; Thousands without Power and Hundreds Evacuated in England, Scotland, Wales



Published:
3 hours 57 min ago

http://www.weather.com/news/news/uk-...wales-flooding

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Originally Posted by RPETER65

The other thing most people don't realize in the push for clean energy thousands of wind turbines have been built but the transmission lines to make there energy usable was not brought along with the building of the turbines. If you drive down the Columbia from Tri Cities To the Dalles you will see many turbines standing idle.

Maybe the wind wasn’t blowing hard enough. Otherwise I’ll call your deflection, bull fuckin’ shit.

Go ahead,………….give it your best shot.

Show us the Wind Turbines that are not hooked to the power grid.

Wind Farm | USGS Energy Resources Program

You are out of your depth.

I you obviously know 0 about wind turbines, if you drive by a wind turbine farm, as I frequently do, and you see half of the turbines working and half siting still it is reasonably obvious it has nothing to do with the wind.

Not talking about wind turbines not being hooked to the grid, it's the capacity of the grid to transmit the potential power of both wind and hydro electric projects. Which is why you never see all the turbines on line.

You think a power company would erect ?

You’re going to have to do better than that. Go ahead, give it another shot (the map is there).

Until then, a new study is out showing the impact of carbon emissions and their link to different regions around the world.

"The paper is the first to systematically assess regional scale impacts of climate change and their relation to anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions."

Past studies rarely connected impact to greenhouse gas emissions directly, said Stone, a research scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, in an interview with ThinkProgress. “Linking what’s happening locally to what’s happening globally is something that hadn’t been done in the context of looking at these impacts.”

The year-long study applied computational calculations, or algorithms, onto 118 suspected climate change impacts observed from 1970s to 2010, like coast line erosion, wild fires, ice loss, changes in range of species, and loss of agricultural output from all regions listed in the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report. Stone said the team found “a confident link that our emissions altogether had been an important contributor to the trends in at least two thirds of the cases,”

What I think about has nothing to do with the fact that many wind turbines sit idle, maybe it's your turn to have a go at, prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

US | Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:05pm EST
Related: U.S., Environment, Natural Disasters
Christmastime storms, tornadoes kill at least 41 in U.S



Storms hit southern and central U.S. states over the Christmas holiday, unleashing floods and tornadoes that killed at least 41 people, flattened buildings and snarled transportation for millions during a busy travel time.
At least 11 people were killed in the Dallas area over the weekend by tornadoes, including one packing winds of up to 200 miles per hour (322 km per hour). The twister hit the city of Garland, killing eight people and blowing vehicles off highways.
"A tornado of that strength is very rare in a metropolitan area," National Weather Service meteorologist Matt Bishop said in a telephone interview. Powerful tornadoes are a staple of spring and summer in central states but occur less frequently in winter, according to U.S. weather data
"It is total devastation," Garland Police spokesman Lieutenant Pedro Barineau said. "It is a very difficult time to be struck by such a horrible storm the day after Christmas."
Three other deaths were reported in the Dallas metropolitan area, the United States' fourth most populous with about 7 million residents. Scores of people were injured in the region, officials said.
Three tornadoes were reported in Arkansas on Sunday, the weather service said, but there were no initial reports of significant injuries or damage. The service has issued tornado watches and warnings for areas in that state, as well as in parts of Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi.
A tornado watch means a storm is likely, while a warning means a storm or storms have been sighted.
In Illinois and Missouri, flash flooding killed at least 11 people, officials and local media reported on Sunday.
Six adults drowned when they drove their cars into flooded waterways in Missouri's Pulaski County, said county Sheriff Ron Long.
In neighboring Illinois, Salem-based radio station WJBD reported a family of three adults and two children was driving near the village of Patoka, 85 miles (137 km)east of St. Louis, Missouri, when their car was washed away by floodwaters.
The storms came on the heels of tornadoes that hit two days before Christmas, killing at least 18 people, including 10 in Mississippi.
In Alabama's Coffee County, the body of a man who went missing during those storms was found on Sunday, officials told local media.
In Texas, Governor Greg Abbott said his office had declared Dallas County and three nearby counties disaster areas. He also warned people to be wary of snow in western parts of the state and rivers spilling their banks in other places.
"If you do not need to be on the road, please stay off the road," he said at a news conference.
The weather service issued severe weather advisories for large parts of the central United States, including a blizzard warning for parts of New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas and a flash flood watch stretching from Texas to Indiana.
New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez declared a state of emergency for the entire state due to a winter storm expected to dump up to 2 feet of snow in eastern parts of the state.
The bad weather forced the cancellation of nearly 1,300 flights in the nation as of 4:30 p.m. EST on Sunday, according to tracking service FlightAware.com. About half of the canceled flights were in Dallas, a major U.S. flight hub.

You should start another thread with this, you can call it the El Niño thread.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You should start another thread with this, you can call it the El Niño thread.

There is just one problem !
El Niño is not very rare or historic !

Originally Posted by bsnub

WTF? Realizing he has painted himself into a corner he shifts the topic;

Simple remedy:

I'm reading Flight behavior By Barbra kingsolver...good story.

The north pole could be hotter than Chicago, Vienna or Istanbul on Wednesday due to the low pressure system that has brought tornados to Dallas and high winds and heavy rainfall to the UK.

The Arctic could reach temperatures about 35C (63F) warmer than average for this time of year, meteorologists have warned.

Computer model projections earlier this week suggested that the air temperature at the pole, which is currently shrouded in 24-hour darkness, could reach 5C, rather than the usual -30 to -35C, according to Mashable. This would make it milder than much of Canada and the US.

Temperature fluctuations are fairly common in the Arctic, where shifts in sea ice cover can significantly affect local air temperatures, but such a strong variation is extreme.

“That’s absolutely terrifying and incredibly rare,” meteorologist Eric Holthaus told Slate.

“By any yardstick, these are extremely warm and likely record readings for the north pole,” noted climate blogger Robert Scribbler. The strange weather coincides with an unusually warm winter in Europe and the eastern US and torrential flooding in parts of south America.

The warm weather could affect the buildup of Arctic sea ice during the winter. Ice cover has already been vastly reduced by global warming.

The conditions have been caused by one of the biggest storms ever to hit the northern Atlantic, reaching speeds of up to 230mph. Storm Frank lashed the north of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland with downpours and gale force winds on Wednesday.

Temperatures have reached or exceeded freezing point at the north pole during December on only three occasions since 1948, according to meteorologist Bob Henson of WeatherUnderground.

North pole could be 35C warmer than average this week, warn meteorologists | World news | The Guardian

Only a troll like blue or an evangelical whackjob like peter would fail to be be worried by that report...
as if we didn't already know that the Paris agreement is too little too late

I'm now 100% convinced. Man made global warming is real.

Observing the damage humans have done to the planet I just have three questions.

Why hasn't a Global emergency been declared????

Why aren't zero emission mandates being issued around the globe????

Why is the US government still subsidizing the beef industry to the tune of 36 billion a year???

Reasonable questions aren't they!

Why aren't people asking them?

Originally Posted by Neo

Only a troll like blue or an evangelical whackjob like peter would fail to be be worried by that report...
(

I aint worried about it, that's weather, and as we have been constantly lectured -weather and climate are 2 different things ..

Anyway whats to worry about if the earth warms up a bit, I've already saved money on heating over last year !

In uk when the weather stops coming from the Atlantic , it starts coming from the Arctic and Sirberia, so I hope we have storms all winter.

Great if all the Earths ice melts, like almost all of natures creatures I hate the stuff.

Originally Posted by The Guardian

Temperatures have reached or exceeded freezing point at the north pole during December on only three occasions since 1948, according to meteorologist Bob Henson of WeatherUnderground.

Confusing and sloppy English
maybe should be:
Temperatures have equaled, or been greater than freezing point at the north pole during December, on only three occasions since 1948.

Guardian tosspots

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I'm now 100% convinced. Man made global warming is real.

Observing the damage humans have done to the planet I just have three questions.

Why hasn't a Global emergency been declared????

Why aren't zero emission mandates being issued around the globe????

Why is the US government still subsidizing the beef industry to the tune of 36 billion a year???

Reasonable questions aren't they!

Why aren't people asking them?

Every thinking person should be absolutely freaking out.
You can't tell me the millions of tons of impurities constantly being pumped into the atmosphere, the very atmosphere we rely on to protect us and provide oxygen, don't affect the way it insulates us. But it's not only Global warming, look at the damage man has done to the planet in the last 100 or so years since the invention of the internal combustion engine and the industrial revolution. A VERY short space of time in the grand scheme of things. Air, water and soil pollution, deforestation, decimation of wildlife and fishing stocks. Fooling with natures miracles (Genetic modification).
Where will we be in say 200 years.

Why is there a draft up my back passage?

^^
Agree cujo
but that doesn't mean that a harmless gas and plant food c02 is causing global waming

Originally Posted by blue

Great if all the Earths ice melts, like almost all of natures creatures I hate the stuff.

You should donate your brain to science.

Originally Posted by blue

^^
Agree cujo
but that doesn't mean that a harmless gas and plant food c02 is causing global waming

By 'Harmless' you mean.....?
It's not harmless if it's causing global warming
You do realize that there are a LOT more chemicals pumped into the air than CO2 right?
And there's a whole raft of reactions between them, you know how chemicals react together right.
CFCs for example, methane, nitrous oxide and many more all up there rubbing against one another swapping atoms and creating a noxious cloud soup that is the atmosphere that regulates the temperature on earth.

These are FACTS for example.

But hey, maybe it's just coincidence.

Ancient air bubbles trapped in ice enable us to step back in time and see what Earth's atmosphere, and climate, were like in the distant past. They tell us that levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere are higher than they have been at any time in the past 400,000 years. During ice ages, CO2 levels were around 200 parts per million (ppm), and during the warmer interglacial periods, they hovered around 280 ppm (see fluctuations in the graph). In 2013, CO2 levels surpassed 400 ppm for the first time in recorded history. This recent relentless rise in CO2 shows a remarkably constant relationship with fossil-fuel burning, and can be well accounted for based on the simple premise that about 60 percent of fossil-fuel emissions stay in the air.

Today, we stand on the threshold of a new geologic era, which some term the "Anthropocene", one where the climate is very different to the one our ancestors knew.

If fossil-fuel burning continues at a business-as-usual rate, such that humanity exhausts the reserves over the next few centuries, CO2 will continue to rise to levels of order of 1500 ppm. The atmosphere would then not return to pre-industrial levels even tens of thousands of years into the future. This graph not only conveys the scientific measurements, but it also underscores the fact that humans have a great capacity to change the climate and planet.

You can also find this graphic on our “Evidence” page.

Credit
Data: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Climate Change: Climate Resource Center - Graphic: The relentless rise of carbon dioxide