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    These are not the hardcore MAGA Fox news viewers, but it’s nice to know some viewers are a little skeptical.

    Hear what Fox News viewers think about the Dominion settlement



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    This may have it posted somewhere before. Interesting take on Rupert Murdoch.



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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    These are not the hardcore MAGA Fox news viewers, but it’s nice to know some viewers are a little skeptical.

    Hear what Fox News viewers think about the Dominion settlement
    Not surprised.
    IMO the settlement was a win for FOX
    --By not requiring a detraction and an apology , what did Dominion get out of this ? They got $787.5 million a sizable amount of money but not one that would brake FOX, or even make them change their behaviour
    "The Company reported total quarterly revenues of $4.61 billion,earnings release for the quarter ended december 31, 2022 " In view of that not only FOX did not lose much but engaging in falsehoods is actually profitable
    --What did Fox get out of this? Not to have endure a lengthy litigation battle, which given the evidence they would have lost anyway, could have suffered a much higher jury award, and the lawyer costs. And since they don't have to offer a retraction and an apologie. and since their client base only watches FOX, they got the ability to ignore this and or spin it.
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    Without a doubt. It’s already yesterday’s news. Chump change, for Rupert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
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    IMO the settlement was a win for FOX
    --By not requiring a detraction and an apology , what did Dominion get out of this ? They got $787.5 million a sizable amount of money but not one that would brake FOX, or even make them change their behaviour
    "The Company reported total quarterly revenues of $4.61 billion,earnings release for the quarter ended december 31, 2022 " In view of that not only FOX did not lose much but engaging in falsehoods is actually profitable
    --What did Fox get out of this? Not to have endure a lengthy litigation battle, which given the evidence they would have lost anyway, could have suffered a much higher jury award, and the lawyer costs. And since they don't have to offer a retraction and an apologie. and since their client base only watches FOX, they got the ability to ignore this and or spin it.
    Well their net income for 2022 was $2.8Bn so this and the Smartmatic case will decimate that.

    BUT if I'm not mistaken, at least in the case of the Dominion settlement, they can write it off against tax. Which is a bit shit.

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    99 pages to say Fox news is biased. A total waste of time, You are preaching to anyone with an ounce of critical thinking plus the looney left who believe anyone right of bernie sanders is always wrong. The rest will consider everyone that doesnt watch Fox to be a communist. In short this will massage those that agree and erk those who dont but wont change the status quo and therefore pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    It is now almost impossible to find a news station in Australia that is not loaded with far left woke agenda. The only one that isnt is Sky news australia which is probably Fox news light at best and populated exclusively with right wing journalists, some still debating climate change. Balanced news in Australia is dead. A pox on them all.



    Enjoying these articles about Fox and the trouble they are still in.

    Fox News faces new legal threat from Smartmatic

    Fox News has settled a blockbuster case brought by Dominion Voting Systems, but the network’s legal headaches are not over yet.

    A separate lawsuit from voting systems company Smartmatic similarly accuses Fox of maliciously giving Trump lawyers Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani a platform to air false claims about the 2020 presidential election.

    But unlike Dominion, Smartmatic is suing multiple hosts and Giuliani as individuals, in addition to Fox. The company is seeking at least $2.7 billion in damages, more than three times the size of Fox’s recent $787.5 million settlement with Dominion last week. And the case will be tried in New York state court, rather than Delaware.

    “Dominion’s litigation exposed some of the misconduct and damage caused by Fox’s disinformation campaign,” Erik Connolly, an attorney for Smartmatic, said in a statement shortly after the agreement with Dominion was announced.

    “Smartmatic will expose the rest. Smartmatic remains committed to clearing its name, recouping the significant damage done to the company, and holding Fox accountable for undermining democracy.”

    A trial in the Smartmatic case would still be months away, if not years. No date has been set, but Fox lost its first bid to toss Smartmatic’s suit, allowing the case to move onto discovery.

    “We will be ready to defend this case surrounding extremely newsworthy events when it goes to trial, likely in 2025,” a spokesperson for the network said this week. “As a report prepared by our financial expert shows, Smartmatic’s damages claims are implausible, disconnected from reality, and on its face intended to chill First Amendment freedoms.”

    Still, some observers see the Smartmatic case ending in a similar fashion to how Dominion’s lawsuit did last week.

    “I don’t see really any legal or factual way for Fox to have a different result in the Smartmatic litigation than it had in Dominion,” said Rodney Smolla, president of Vermont Law and Graduate School, who served as a lawyer for Dominion in its defamation case.

    “I know it issued the press release yesterday, saying it looked forward to defending itself, but my instinct is that’s just settlement posturing,” he added. “It doesn’t reflect a realistic view of the law or facts.”

    Fox defended itself in Dominion’s suit in part by asserting that it was protected under a First Amendment “neutral report” privilege, arguing the allegations made by Trump and his associates, like attorneys Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, were newsworthy and Fox had a journalistic duty to present them.

    But Smartmatic’s case is in New York, where that neutral reporting privilege has previously been rejected. When Fox asserted such a privilege in Dominion’s case, the judge found the New York precedent was “binding on this court” and rejected that defense, adding that even if it did apply, Fox could not leverage it because they did not conduct “good-faith, disinterested reporting.”

    Fox is nonetheless expressing confidence in its chances in court against Smartmatic, insisting that the voting systems company cannot tie any damages it may have suffered to Fox’s segments, because the voter fraud claims at issue were promoted in many other places.

    The Smartmatic case is just the latest chapter in a string of legal battles and negative headlines for the nation’s largest cable network over its coverage of former president Trump and the 2020 election.

    Days ahead of the Dominion settlement, Fox for an undisclosed amount settled another defamation case brought by a Venezuelan businessman against the network and host Lou Dobbs, who has since left the network. That suit referenced claims that the businessman rigged the presidential election using Smartmatic and Dominion voting machines.

    Notably in its statement on the settlement with Dominion, Fox acknowledged “the Court’s rulings finding certain claims about Dominion to be false.”

    “This settlement reflects Fox’s continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards,” the network added.

    How the pair of big-money lawsuits will affect the network’s reputation with its massive, largely conservative viewers remains to be seen.

    Nielsen Media Research data shows Fox has not experienced any significant dip in its outsized audience share during the Dominion suit and its leading ad executives have said its revenues have been unaffected by the lawsuits it faces.

    “While the left seems to be following and delighting in the lawsuit, among the Americans most impacted by Fox, conservatives and Republicans, most aren’t really tuning in,” said Chris Jackson, pollster and senior vice president of U.S. public affairs at Ipsos.

    Still, legal experts say the Dominion settlement could serve as another watershed moment for both Fox and media coverage of controversial matters of public debate.

    “Having settled in such a public way for such a big number, it’s going to be even more difficult for Fox to find a jury that isn’t at least somewhat aware of this earlier settlement on a very similar issue,” said Chris Mattei, an attorney who helped win a historic $1.5 billion defamation case against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones on behalf of the families of Sandy Hook victims.

    “It feels to me like the case against Jones and the case against Fox are very important moments in combating what is becoming an ever-increasing threat of disinformation spreading through the country.”
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    ^ I'm guessin' the former president got him fired...

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    Tucker orf, I'm shattered who could possibly replace him as a Newswanchor Backspin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Tucker orf, I'm shattered who could possibly replace him as a Newswanchor Backspin?
    Backspasm must be gutted. Wonder if he’s taken down the cum-stained Tucker Carlson poster, off his bedroom wall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    99 pages to say Fox news is biased. A total waste of time,
    Yea! I agree. Same thing with trump. We should had said he was an asshole when he was first elected and leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Tucker Carlson gone from Fox News.
    No surprise , after his claim that the settlement was reversed by federal judge Santos, and now Dominion has to pay Fox $787.5 million

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    ‘It Was a Firing’: Tucker Carlson’s Exit from Fox Was NOT Voluntary, Sources Say

    Tucker Carlson’s departure from Fox News was not voluntary, multiple sources told Mediaite.


    Fox News shocked the media world Monday morning with a statement announcing the network and its top-rated host “have agreed to part ways.”


    The stunning news came just a week after the network’s $787.5 million defamation settlement with Dominion Voting Systems — and a potentially even more costly lawsuit from Smartmatic still looming — and Carlson’s own texts and emails figured prominently in the pre-trial discovery showing Fox News executives and on-air personalities privately admitting the same 2020 election conspiracies they publicly promoted were baseless nonsense.

    Carlson’s final show that aired Friday night showed no indication he expected it to be his last, with the host signing off by telling his audience “we’ll be back on Monday.”


    A source who spoke with Mediaite on condition of anonymity revealed that Carlson was in fact shocked by the news. “He was totally surprised,” said the source. “He had no idea.”


    “It was a firing,” the source added, and Carlson “was informed today” — explaining why he had closed Friday’s show saying he’d be back Monday.


    The Fox News newsroom is “in a state of shock,” the source said, confirming reporting by Mediaite’s Aidan McLaughlin that multiple sources within the network said the news “hit like a bomb inside the network, shocking even staffers close to the ex-prime time host who had no idea this was coming,” and found out not from any internal communication, but when the news broke online.

    The source did not know the precise reason for Carlson’s firing, but speculated that it was “part of general housecleaning” after the Dominion settlement plus the grumbling and litigation worries from Fox News shareholders, or something related to former Fox producer Abby Grossman’s complaint that was specifically connected to Carlson.


    With former President Donald Trump increasingly looking like the likely 2024 GOP presidential nominee, the Fox News top brass may be worried about ongoing liability risks as the election season heats up, the source mused — and additional on-air personalities might soon get the ax.


    Additional sources at Fox News independently confirmed to Mediaite that Carlson was ousted from the network, but also did not know a precise reason why.


    Tucker Carlson was FIRED from Fox News, Sources Say

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    That’s some surprising news.

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    Don Lemon was fired by CNN as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Tucker orf, I'm shattered who could possibly replace him as a Newswanchor Backspin?
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    Carlson fired on Murdoch’s orders, report says

    Tucker Carlson has left Fox News, reportedly fired on the orders of company chairman Rupert Murdoch over a discrimination lawsuit filed by a former producer.

    Fox chairman Rupert Murdoch ordered Tucker Carlson’s firing over a discrimination lawsuit filed by a former producer on his show, the Los Angeles Times reports.

    Murdoch was also “concerned” about Carlson’s insistence that undercover government agents were involved in the January 6 insurrection, an allegation that has no factual basis, according to the Times.

    In March, Abby Grossberg, a producer who formerly worked on Carlson’s show, filed a suit saying that lawyers for the network “coached” and “intimidated” her into giving misleading testimony in the lawsuit filed by Dominion Voting Systems. She also alleged a culture of sexism and misogyny at the network, and that executives tried to blame her and host Maria Bartiromo for the airing of 2020 election conspiracy theories.

    While the Times reports that the dismissal wasn’t related to the Dominion lawsuit, it notes that comments made about managers at the network, which were revealed in the case’s discovery process “may have also played a role” in his ousting.

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    Who Is Bryan Freedman?

    Ousted CNN anchor Don Lemon and Fox News host Tucker Carlson have both reportedly tapped high-powered entertainment lawyer Bryan Freedman to represent them following their sudden departures Monday, turning to an attorney known for aggressively representing A-list clients in a sign the two polarizing figures might pursue legal action against their old networks—or push the companies to pay up.

    Fox News intends to pay out the entirety of Carlson’s contract, which was renewed in 2021 for about $20 million per year, according to the Wall Street Journal, though it’s unclear when the deal expires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    That’s some surprising news.
    ... I suspect there's more to his firing than merely badmouthing management...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ... I suspect there's more to his firing than merely badmouthing management...
    I'd be inclined to agree. With Murdoch it will most likely be an attempt to shift responsibility.

    "Yes, he's a bad man, but we fired him. You can't punish us", etc.

    People familiar with the situation who were not authorized to comment publicly said the decision to fire Carlson came straight from Fox Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch with input from board members and other Fox Corp. executives.

    Carlson’s exit is related to the discrimination lawsuit filed by Abby Grossberg, the producer fired by the network last month, the sources said.
    She's going to have a shitload of inside information and I would not be surprised to see her case settled pronto - with a gag order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Don Lemon was fired by CNN as well.
    I Think it was a bilateral disarmament agreement.
    " You remove your Carlson, and we will remove our Lemon. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I Think it was a bilateral disarmament agreement.
    " You remove your Carlson, and we will remove our Lemon. "
    There's a bit more to it than that, and apparently his disparaging comments about Nikki Hailey were the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Even he says he's been fired.

    Embattled CNN host Don Lemon has an appalling history of workplace misogyny that began decades before his sexist on-air comments — including allegedly threatening and demeaning former colleagues such as Soledad O’Brien , Kyra Phillips and Nancy Grace, according to a bombshell report.

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    Tucker Carlson’s abrupt Fox News exit fits with Murdoch playbook

    MELBOURNE, Australia — Tucker Carlson’s sudden dismissal from his Fox News host position Monday was only the latest in a decades-long string of high-profile departures from Rupert Murdoch’s media outlets.

    Whether they were based in the United States, Britain or Australia, several employees who were previously lauded within the Murdoch businesses have found themselves without a job, some with seemingly little warning. In a successful wrongful dismissal lawsuit, one former top Murdoch news editor in Australia characterized his 2008 termination as “capricious” and coming just after he had bought a house in the city where he worked.

    Carlson was fired a week after Fox settled a defamation lawsuit brought by Dominion Voting Systems in which his private texts were publicly released. The messages showed Carlson being occasionally critical of Fox management and using misogynistic language. The network is also facing legal action from Abby Grossberg, a former booker for Carlson’s show, who alleged she faced a sexist and hostile work environment. Fox is contesting her allegations, while Carlson has not publicly commented on the suit.

    There has been an increase in high-profile departures of Murdoch employees who faced allegations of sexism and harassment since Lachlan Murdoch returned to the family business in 2014, said Paddy Manning, author of “The Successor,” a biography of the eldest Murdoch son. Lachlan is now chief executive of Fox Corp, the parent of Fox News, and was a key player in the decision to oust Carlson, The Washington Post has reported.

    Roger Ailes, who helped the Murdochs build a highly profitable and influential U.S. cable news network, was forced out in 2016 after a former Fox News anchor sued for sexual harassment and more than two dozen other women alleged that he engaged in sexually inappropriate behavior. Ailes, who died in 2017, denied the allegations at the time.

    Bill O’Reilly, Carlson’s predecessor in Fox News’s 8 p.m. prime time slot, was removed in 2017 after a string of sexual harassment allegations against him. He also denied the accusations.

    Both departures came after the start of the #MeToo movement that seeks to combat sexual harassment and gender-based discrimination.

    “Lachlan is pretty sensitive to accusations of a toxic work environment where sexual harassment is involved,” said Manning. He added that many high-profile ousters were not due to one specific event, but “a buildup and then a final last straw.”

    Fox News did not immediately return a request for comment on how the Murdochs handle dismissals.

    Such removals of talent predate Rupert Murdoch’s son’s involvement in the company.

    “Murdoch was notorious for the ruthless eviction of editors, for whom warning bells began to ring most loudly when their proprietor became effusive in their praise,” the Glasgow Herald wrote in 1983.

    Harold Evans, promoted to editor of the Times of London after it was bought by Murdoch in 1981, wrote in a memoir that he was forced to resign after the media baron violated promises not to interfere in how the newspaper was run. “One minute he’s swimming along with a smile, and then snap! There’s blood in the water. Your head’s gone,” he quoted another Times journalist as saying about Murdoch.

    (The senior Murdoch has said under oath to a British judicial inquiry that he fired Evans after being informed of a staff mutiny against their editor.)

    Bruce Guthrie, who edited the Herald Sun, a Melbourne tabloid, was dismissed in 2008, less than two years after he was hired. He told an Australian court that he was let go because the newspaper’s managing director did not believe they were getting along. Guthrie said that was not the case. The court awarded him damages of roughly $400,000 after finding he was wrongfully fired.

    Guthrie also wrote a book about his dismissal. Its title: “Man Bites Murdoch: Four Decades in Print, Six Days in Court.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/media...t-murdoch-fox/

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