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    Where's the plane

    Pentagon sept 11

    This building collapsed by imploding, but normally when something, size of one airplane crashes in a building the mass should make it explode !

    What company claimed a missing plane ? Is it possible a plane crashes but nobody has a missing plane ?

    Why the CIA and or FBI went to all gazoline stations and took the surveillance tapes and do not release this....

    Why is there only 1 picture all in all of the plane entering the building

    Is it just myself wondering about all of this or real evidence was allready published and i missed it ?

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    Sore something on the television about this and the firefighters said there was no sign of a plane when they entered the area to put out the fire not a body or a wing nothing

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    quite thick, No ?

    What company misses a plane ? also never heard this answer...

    May be one of the few black box that will never be recovered...

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    If the towers were brought down by explosions and not aircraft then can someone explain to me why the US government would choose to lie about it. ?

    What do they gain ?

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    A reason to go to war?

    Naw, unless all the video cameras in and around NYC were somehow fooled into seeing planes crash into the WTC it's merely fodder for conspiracy theorists.

    Remember, a plane is made largely of aluminum and air and there won't be much left on impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    If the towers were brought down by explosions and not aircraft then can someone explain to me why the US government would choose to lie about it.
    Talking about the Pentagon not WTC

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    Same answer, it crushed into itself on impact much like an empty beer can. If it were a solid chunk of flying steel then it would have punched a hole through both sides of the Pentagon much like a bunker buster bomb works.

    Don't forget, unlike the WTC the Pentagon was going through reinforcement for these kinds of attacks prior to 911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    If the towers were brought down by explosions and not aircraft then can someone explain to me why the US government would choose to lie about it. ?

    What do they gain ?

    May be some contracts for hollywood !



    No the towers are clear, but the pentagon story, very strange ! What they gain to mask it, if so ?

    No parts found and so many unclear answers there, and finally only few years after people start to really question about it...

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    Pentagon : Hunt the Boeing! And test your perceptions! - L'Asile utopique - www.asile.org

    This website makes it clear that there was no hit by airplane !

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    See for yourself:





    If you look at the second video clearly the plane hits the ground (which is consistent with witnesses who say the plane banked causing the wing to hit the ground). The fireball and smoke are coming from the ground several yards from in front of the Pentagon wall. That's why there are no wing marks on the Pentagon.

    Everyone assumes it's a solid flying object that would have landed perfectly horizontally and make a huge hole. It's an airplanel; they simply don't make big holes unless they fall right out of the sky.

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    So the US gov do not want to admit that they have lost some cruise missiles

    Is that the reason ?

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    Planes typically do not make big impact craters on implosion:

    Attack on America - Flight 93 - the Real Heroes

    Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Dozens survive plane crash in South Korea

    They turn into a big fireball which quickly destroys much of the plane (melting point of Al is 660 C, the flash point of AvGas (kerosene) is much lower...this causes an immediate explosion into a fireball which quickly burns off most of the jet fuel in a large flammable vapor...hence why the fireball vanishes quickly and turns into black smoke as the oxygen gets consumed. By this time most of the plane is gone).

    The fireball is similar to the fireball that came when one of the planes hit the WTC:



    Plus you can see how the plane slices into one part of the WTC and nothing but debris comes out the other. How do you suppose an identical plane would react hitting 24" of reinforced steel, concrete, brick, and stone?

    Cruise missile? Nope.

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    The engines would survive. I remember seeing apicture of an engine near the Pentagon, but it looked way too small for a commercial airliner.

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    That's what they think punched the hole through the rings. Besides, we all know it's difficult to judge the size of things in photos.

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    As an aside, take two of these filled with rocks to maximum capacity and you have almost the weight of the plane:



    Kenworth Truck Company

    Two of these would equal about 160,000 pounds filled up. The maximum weight of Flight 77 at takeoff might have been 255,000 pounds. Based on passengers and a full tank it probably would have been at 200,000 pounds on takeoff and likely would have burned about 25,000 pounds worth of fuel by the time it crashed.

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    I have a brotherinlaw who stood and watched it all happen from the street, he told me he saw both planes crash into the building and that watching the second crash was like slow motion.

    Has the CIA come up with a slow motion drug that can be dispensed to people on the streat without them knowing.

    These conspiracies are horse shit and play into the hands of the kind of fuckwits who deny the Halocaust and claim Pearl Harbour was bombed by the Americans as an excuse to go to war.

    (I take it that you understand who I mean when I say 'fuckwits')

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itchy
    (I take it that you understand who I mean when I say 'fuckwits')
    Yes their the ones that dont read post before posting
    Did I get it right

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    So did any one come up with which plane it was ? if there was a plane

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    The engines would survive. I remember seeing apicture of an engine near the Pentagon, but it looked way too small for a commercial airliner.
    That might well be, and almost certainly is, because commercial jet airliners have one more jet engine than most people realize (2 or 4 strapped under the wings - big ones that you recognize as airliner jet engines) and a very much smaller gas turbine power unit at the rear of the aircraft, inside the body below the tail - providing electrical power and mechanical drive to hydraulic pumps)

    Next time you see an airliner take a look at the nozzel right at the back of the plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigger View Post
    So did any one come up with which plane it was ? if there was a plane
    You mean was someone standing there at the exact moment it hit to take a photo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    You mean was someone standing there at the exact moment it hit to take a photo?
    No whos plane was it

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    American Airlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    American Airlines
    Flight number ??

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