Child Propaganda?

[Jet Gorgon]

Dunno where this is coming from -- LOVE??? -- but it bugs me.





Just a comparison:

[AntRobertson]

Dunno where this is coming from

The usual paranoid, dribbling, right-wing blogs and the like would be my guess.

[sabang]

Tomorrows voters. Maybe the Right should listen, for a change.

[raycarey]

Just a comparison:

a more apt comparison....

children from the stricken Gulf Coast region serenaded First Lady Laura Bush with a song praising the beleaguered Federal Emergency Management Agency.

To the tune of Hey Look Me Over, about 100 young children from Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama sang:

Our country’s stood beside us
People have sent us aid.
Katrina could not stop us, our hopes will never fade.
Congress, Bush and FEMA
People across our land
Together have come to rebuild us and we join them hand-in-hand!

Out of the Mouths of Babes - Washington Wire - WSJ



i wonder, jet.....did this 'bug' you too?

yeah, that's what i thought.

The usual paranoid, dribbling, right-wing blogs and the like would be my guess.

of course....and it's simply regurgitated here.

[sabang]

^ I hope the were all wearing nice 'stars n stripes' lapel badges too!

[Jet Gorgon]

And the libbies are out in force. Wish you'd all post some sensible arguments for a change.

[FlyFree]

Child abuse. No less than physical abuse, probably worse. Religion relies on it, and often culture and politics as well.

Of course, those whose views coincide with the message of the brainwashing, won't utter a peep. They're generally too weak-minded. Until it comes round for them and their children.

And yes, this time I did watch the (first 2) videos.

[AntRobertson]

Wish you'd all post some sensible arguments for a change

Yeah, because the continued fatuous, sophomoric, ill-conceived and, ultimately, pointless and misguided Obama/Hitler analogies and comparisons demand rigourous intellectual scrutiny and debate.

It's my belief that all those invovled in WW2 would be equal parts sickened, saddened and ashamed that it has come to this. That what they fought and struggled against has been reduced to a ridiculous exercise in tenuous comparisons and Photoshopped pics on the internet.

How's that for a sensible argument?

[Dan]

Child abuse. No less than physical abuse, probably worse.

Not sure about that. I think I'd rather be forced to sing stomach-churningly awful songs than have the shit kicked out of me.

It's my belief that all those invovled in WW2 would be equal parts sickened, saddened and ashamed that it has come to this. That what they fought and struggled against has been reduced to a ridiculous exercise in tenuous comparisons and Photoshopped pics on the internet.

Is Obama Hitler? I thought he was Stalin. Or maybe Osama. It's so hard to keep up.

[raycarey]

Is Obama Hitler? I thought he was Stalin. Or maybe Osama. It's so hard to keep up.

don't forget che guevara....and the devil himself.

as i'm sure you're aware ( but others here may not be), these sorts of comparisons are simply an attempt to dehumanize obama by people who can't come to terms with the fact that he's president.

[sabang]

Wish you'd all post some sensible arguments for a change.

Wish you'd post a sensible Thread for a change.

[wefearourdespot]

Dunno where this is coming from -- LOVE??? -- but it bugs me.

I can't see any child here...just a bunch of (bad) trained monkeys

[wefearourdespot]

Just a comparison:

Indeed the nazis sang remarkably better

[larvidchr]

Come on guys, there is something wrong with school teachers/schools passing on their private political and religious views to the children, just like using children in political campaigns, never mind if it is the right or left, I know it is being done a lot around the World but it still stinks.

[Jet Gorgon]

Not sure about that. I think I'd rather be forced to sing stomach-churningly awful songs than have the shit kicked out of me.

Like the Pledge of Allegiance and Christmas carols? Just wait; it's early days yet. Except in Chicago.

[sabang]

there is something wrong with school teachers/schools passing on their private political and religious views to the children

I agree actually, fair and good point. Otoh, not sure these Youtubes are examples of a bunch of schoolkids being sequestered en masse to sing 'Obamaganda'. I reckon a brief investigation would find they are there of their own volition- not teacher pressure- but admittedly, some of this zeal is a Black thang.

Of course, in the Deep South, you are not allowed to teach Darwin.

[Jet Gorgon]

Found this Lou Dobbs tape. Hope it works.
It's the indoctrination or education vid. Sorry, couldn't pull up the vid.
Lou Dobbs: Issues, TV, Radio, and Books - CNN.com

[raycarey]

jet, it's obvious you're simply copying these videos from some other site.

why not just post a link to the rabid right wing blog you copied these videos from and put an end to the pretense?

[wefearourdespot]

jet, it's obvious you're simply copying these videos from some other site.

why not just post a link to the rabid right wing blog you copied these videos from and put an end to the pretense?

I don't think the issue here is where Jet found the videos and who posted them first , the issue is what the videos show , that's not exactly edifying

[Rural Surin]

.....adult propaganda?

[Jet Gorgon]

Come on guys, there is something wrong with school teachers/schools passing on their private political and religious views to the children, just like using children in political campaigns, never mind if it is the right or left, I know it is being done a lot around the World but it still stinks.

Exactly. I'd sure the fek be angry if my kids were being taught this adulation crap and not be allowed to recite the Pledge of Allegiance or sing the national anthem every morning.
Keep this stuff out of schools. We get enough libbie propaganda at uni. Yes, I was libbie when I was young and naieve, too.

[attaboy]

One song is about government disaster relief, Bush happened to be the President at the time. The other song is specifically about Obama coupled with a political message. The Obama song shouldn't be taught in public schools.

Here's a quote from a school spokesperson:

"The activity took place during Black History Month in 2009, which is recognized each February to honor the contributions of African Americans to our country,'' superintendent Christopher Manno writes. "Our curriculum studies, honors and recognizes those who serve our country. The recording and distribution of the class activity were unauthorized.''



Given the quote I can understand the reason why the children were taught the song. But the song goes beyond recognizing the first black President during Black History month. It's political. It's indoctrination. I don't see kids that age questioning what they are taught to sing.

[raycarey]

I'd sure the fek be angry if my kids were being taught this adulation crap and not be allowed to recite the Pledge of Allegiance or sing the national anthem every morning.

1. you're not american
2. you don't have any kids
3. in which school do kids sing the national anthem every morning? none that i'm aware of.

maybe if you were american and had kids, you'd have known that children don't sing the national anthem every monring

[Dan]

Come on guys, there is something wrong with school teachers/schools passing on their private political and religious views to the children, just like using children in political campaigns, never mind if it is the right or left, I know it is being done a lot around the World but it still stinks.

Yes and no. One of the main - possibly the main - functions of school is precisely to pass on political - ideological, really - views (the founding myths of society, equality before the law, fairy tales of national progress, the virtues of bourgeois liberalism, etc., etc.). The difference is that these are public, framework views which structure political discourse, rather than constituting the Scholastic squabbling which takes place within the political discourse of democracy.

[Rural Surin]

Come on guys, there is something wrong with school teachers/schools passing on their private political and religious views to the children, just like using children in political campaigns, never mind if it is the right or left, I know it is being done a lot around the World but it still stinks.

Exactly. I'd sure the fek be angry if my kids were being taught this adulation crap and not be allowed to recite the Pledge of Allegiance or sing the national anthem every morning.
Keep this stuff out of schools. We get enough libbie propaganda at uni. Yes, I was libbie when I was young and naieve, too.

Seems to me that the absorbtion of such 'propaganda' is just easily taken as an adult. One is a sponge at 10 years or 40. They're very good at what they do....