who gives a rats ?Why America Tortures
STOP IT .
who gives a rats ?Why America Tortures
STOP IT .
I wouldn't if Hannity gets any revenue from it.Originally Posted by panama hat
A staged water boarding with the subject knowing full well he will not be allowed to drown or in anyway suffer harm is a far cry from the mindset someone has, guilt or not, who has been arrested in his own country, whisked off to prison, isolated for months or years without charge and subjected to endless interrogation by people exempt from prosecution under accepted international law.
There is a world of difference between a "training exercise" in water boarding and the real thing. Any comparison of what the subject experiences between the two is ridiculous.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"
ignorance and fear.
Why? Because they can.....
And is kinda fun I would imagine, beats the fuck outta having you head chopped off on live video cam, or being shot in the back of the head as taken from a group, 1 at a time.Originally Posted by Bugs
^^ and ^ Excellent, guys. Good to see you've found your niche and friends here, Bugs. This kind of garbage is to be expected from BG . . . when are you going to start swearing at everyone and calling blacks niggers and the like?
Shame, really.
Yes, of course . . . perhaps they should tage a kidnapping and then have swarthy bearded men with middle east accents start . . .Originally Posted by Norton
Fuk OffShame, really.
'kinda fun', eh?Originally Posted by blackgang
OK, tough guy..... let's set it up.
there are more than a few posters in chiang mai......name the time and the place, and i'm sure it can be arranged.
but i'm sure you're going to try and weasel your way out of your empty bravado now.....in your reply be sure to mention something about sucking cock....because it's clear from your posts that you spend an awful lot of time thinking about sucking cock.
Maybe so, but to get the truth you need an answer. I reckon I'd talk pretty quick if I were waterboarded, and besides, I'd rather one poor, innocent sap gets a good mouth wash than a thousand innocents being slaughtered.Torture gives you answers, not the truth
The question is, if not torture, what else?
Scenario: The CIA have credible intelligence that AQ have a nuclear weapon. CIA have a person in custody who they think MAY know something about it. What do they do? One possible innocent against one million DEFINITE innocents. So what do they do? What would YOU do? Ask the chap really nicely and offer to be his bestest friend? Or torture the fuck out of him to see what he knows.
I know what I'd do. This is war, gentlemen. It's high time people woke up to this, no matter how uncomfortable.
I didn't defend, nor condone the act. I simply stated why they did it. Because they can - simple point that seems to have escaped most.
Doesn't make the act right or wrong in and of itself, simply indicates one of the reasons they do it. If they didn't think they could have gotten away with it they would not have tried, or at least they would have tried to keep what they did do more limited and more undercover.
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion" - Steven Weinberg
Sorry, that sentence means nothing . . . why did the murderers of 9/11 kill thousands when they flew the planes into the WTC?Originally Posted by Bugs
Because they could.
Good enough, is it?
The sentence does mean something. And depending on the situation it might or might not be self-evident. In the case of torture I don't think it is quite so self-evident.
Is it good enough? Depends on how deep into the issue one wants to go, and what really they are looking to find out.
heavy, man.Originally Posted by Bugs
quit dodging.
fear arrogance ignorance
Heh...this thread is a joke. After 9/11 everybody was on board with the H2Oboarding thing but a few years of no terror attacks and...
gimme a break...
Really?Originally Posted by Boon Mee
I take it Hiroshima and Nagasaki occurred because the US could . . .
Ever ask yourself why many other nations that can . . . don't? A higher morality perhaps . . . or a smaller sense of self-righteousness maybe?
Because they can . . . nice!
^ classic example of negationism....likely fueled by the combination of blind allegiance to pajama clad bloggers (essentially an inability to think critically), and too much "24"...
Last edited by raycarey; 09-05-2009 at 09:56 PM.
so when is blackgang going to set a time and date to be waterboarded?
remember, he posted on the previous page that he imagined it would be, "kinda fun".
c'mon old timer, man up.
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