Europe to take GITMO prisoners soon.

**Bugs** · 13-03-2009, 11:08 AM

No I am not suggesting they lock up or keep folks locked up for what they might do or for what they have not done in the past. But I got no truck with keeping folks locked up for what they actually have done in the past.

I could give a toss what their skin color is or which of the fairy tails they choose to believe in as a religion.

And I am not aware of many non-military US nationals being held in local bins around the world for being thought of as any form of terrorist threats – thought there might be.

I have serious issues with how many of the folks that are/were in Gitmo were rounded up, and on what evidence they were rounded up on. But I do believe that there are some (don’t have a clue of the percentages) that should not be released, and I don’t think any of them should have any of the protections provided for in the US Constitution. Even US military personnel are not protected by the US Constitution for things they do while serving in the military – the UCMJ trump the US Constitution for anyone in the military.

I to do not know what the answer is. But saying “what do you expect?” certainly doesn’t lead any credence to letting any of them go.

There is plenty that is debatable in regard to how/why many of these folks were locked up in the first place. But now that they are locked up, the focus needs to be on trying to get all those that are not real threats released, and determining what should be done with those that are real threats.

**panama hat** · 13-03-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

It is a completely normal Judicial practise in most Countries PH, proven intent to commit a crime ranks as high as having committed the crime when sentences is passed down,

Absolutely, larvidchr . . . but it is still in question on what basis of fact some of these people were jailed.

Originally Posted by Bugs

I could give a toss what their skin color is or which of the fairy tails they choose to believe in as a religion.

I didn't think you did, just making a point that Arabs/Muslims are now the 'bad' guys.

Originally Posted by Bugs

But I do believe that there are some (don’t have a clue of the percentages) that should not be released, and I don’t think any of them should have any of the protections provided for in the US Constitution.

And that's the crux of the problem, isn't it. According to previous posts these guys could become a threat even if they didn't do anything to deserve incarceration.

Originally Posted by Bugs

. Even US military personnel are not protected by the US Constitution for things they do while serving in the military

These guys are not in any military, though, which is the reason given by the US that thay should not be afforded the same rights. Enemey combatants is the term I believe.

Originally Posted by Bugs

There is plenty that is debatable in regard to how/why many of these folks were locked up in the first place. But now that they are locked up, the focus needs to be on trying to get all those that are not real threats released,

Indeed . . . but can anyone guarantee that they will not turn to the rifle due to the injustice done to the innocent . . . the suffering of their families having to live years without their husband, father, son . . . taking away the sole or main provider of the family?

That's where the problem lies, according to those that would incarcerate ona 'potential to do harm'.

**Boon Mee** · 17-03-2009, 03:06 AM

They don't want them in Gitmo. In fact, they just didn’t want them at all. Not in my backyard!

Europe’s Hedging on Inmates Clouds Guantánamo Plans.

“European countries that have offered to help the Obama administration close the detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, have begun raising questions about the security risks and requirements if they accept prisoners described by the Bush administration as ‘the worst of the worst,’ according to diplomats and other officials.”

Perhaps they'll take 'em Down Under?
What do you think about that idea, Lil?

**panama hat** · 17-03-2009, 07:41 AM

No thanks. The US created the mess, the US should clean it up.

**blackgang** · 17-03-2009, 10:36 AM

Just read what has been posted by The Hat and it will explain his ideas on the situation and why he should not even be allowed to post on these type threads on subjects or national security of the USA or any country you might hsppen to be interested in..
RE-
I don't know what the answer is, but the problem has been created and needs to be addressed by those far more intelligent than me . . . but one thing is certain, if the US keeps going like this then there will be more and more troubles.,,,,,,,,

Now thats what I mean.

**blackgang** · 17-03-2009, 10:45 AM

The Hat said

No thanks. The US created the mess, the US should clean it up.

Admits he has no idea but still comes up with all kinds of shit and still will not heep his mouth shut and let them do what is necessary to do what is required.
Now thats how much he wants people to see his name in print and in the info colums but still admits he has no ideas.
What a fucking dork.

**panama hat** · 17-03-2009, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Just read what has been posted by The Hat and it will explain his ideas on the situation and why he should not even be allowed to post on these type threads

Can you actually address the thread instead of focussing on me? I appreciate how much and often you think of me . . . but I still won't let you suck my cock.

Originally Posted by blackgang

I don't know what the answer

I see . . . so you are more qualified to discuss this topic.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Admits he has no idea

That would put us at par? Yes? No? Meds taken today? Yes? No?

Originally Posted by blackgang

Now thats how much he wants people to see his name in print and in the info colums but still admits he has no ideas. What a fucking dork.

Nah, I just have to let you post to see my name repeated time and again. (Oh, not sure if you know, but my name would only be in print if you print out my posts)

Now go away and stop stalking me, toothless one.

I do havea solution to the original topic . . . clean up your own mess.

**Boon Mee** · 18-03-2009, 12:16 AM

^
Heh...OK, we'll send 'em all down under!
Whada ya think 'bout them apples?

**panama hat** · 18-03-2009, 10:04 PM

*GULP* Umm, maybe the next batch . . . we have enough home-grown idiocy to deal with, thanks.

**Norton** · 19-03-2009, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

we have enough home-grown idiocy to deal with, thanks.

It's much improved now that the real hard core Islamists have opted to relocate from Australia to Muslim countries such as Malaysia.

**panama hat** · 19-03-2009, 11:18 AM

I was never paranoid . . . until your post . . .

**S Landreth** · 29-08-2009, 10:10 AM

U.S. sends 2 Syrian captives from Guantánamo to Portugal

The U.S. government on Friday sent two Syrian men from the prison camps at Guantánamo to resettlement in Portugal after years as war on terror captives at the U.S. Navy base in southeast Cuba.

The Justice Department in Washington announced the transfer late Friday in tandem with the Portuguese government in Lisbon, which said it granted the two men "humanitarian asylum'' at the "specific request'' of the U.S. government.

"These citizens, who expressed interest in being hosted by Portugal, are not subject to any charges,'' Portugal's Interior Ministry said in a statement.

It described the Syrians as "free individuals now living in homes provided by the state, which is taking steps to integrate them into Portuguese society.''

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Portugal said in its statement that the government had long expressed "its willingness to help President Barack Obama and the American administration find solutions to accommodate people who have been detained at Guantánamo.''

Link and rest of the story: U.S. sends 2 Syrian captives from Guantánamo to Portugal - Breaking News - MiamiHerald.com

**panama hat** · 29-08-2009, 12:38 PM

So, more 'terrorists' freed . . . after how many years? Slick move to place them in Guantanamo, not much chance of them suing for kidnap, torture etc....

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