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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    and now she's going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency....she has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs
    She got her first passport in 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric
    Be honest - you don't need really much experience to be president - you have a legion of advisers that do most of the work for you. So in reality this really has little relevance whether you are talking Obama or Pavin.
    If we can go by the associations Obama has cultivated in the past twenty years since he became black I shudder to think who would be his advisors

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    Ahh the nutty Rev Wright?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    and now she's going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency....she has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs,
    FFS Ray what flippen experience does Obama have..the only talent that I see is his ability to memorize his speeches..and that condecending way he looks down on his audience, looking at the top of their heads..the guy really believes god put him here to be our leader
    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    Simple management experience! The only difference between between managing a small town and managing the country is the concept of scale. She was apparently able to "scale up" her thinking from a small town to a small state. The same concept applies to moving up from a state to a country.
    Well said..did you read the link Brit posted on the previous page, I think this an awesome choice by McCain and we are going to see some exciting times over the next two months then for the next 12 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    and now she's going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency....she has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs,
    FFS Ray what flippen experience does Obama have
    just off the top of my head, he's taught constitutional law and he's a member of the senate foreign relations committee.

    now while you may not think that is as impressive as announcing the lottery numbers on the alaska local news, i think most would disagree.

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    ^Obama spent most of his senate time running for president???

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    he's a member of the senate foreign relations committee.
    An appointment that he has learned nothing from since he thinks he can sit down with terrorists and their nation supporters like Iran and talk "reason" to them and everybody will hug and peace will fall on all mankind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick
    An appointment that he has learned nothing from since he thinks he can sit down with terrorists and their nation supporters like Iran and talk "reason" to them and everybody will hug and peace will fall on all mankind
    Agree. GWB's recent decision to send folks to Iran do the same is a fools errand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick
    like Iran and talk "reason" to them and everybody will hug and peace will fall on all mankind
    Sure, much more sensible to invade them, eg Vietnam/ IndoChine and Uraq.

    Those who won't learn from the lessons of history.....

    Vote Republican.

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    On the up side of the Palin pick, the VP debate will probably we watched by more that is typical. I certainly hope Palin does not open with a Stockdalesk – “Who am I, and why am I here?” line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs
    On the up side of the Palin pick, the VP debate will probably we watched by more that is typical
    I agree. I can't wait to see it.

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    it's so bizarre what has been happening recently in US foreign policy debates....

    obama says the US should set a time table for pulling out of iraq....first bush and mccain attack obama's patriotism and judgement, then they eventually come around to his way of thinking.

    obama says the US should talk to iran..first bush and mccain attack obama's patriotism and judgement, then they eventually come around to his way of thinking.

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    ^ The Mcbushies are in deep doo in terms of the senate and presidential elections and they are belatedly moving to diminish the electoral storm.

    Amusing, enjoyable, belated -- but not so bizarre.

    (I know I am not your intended audience but i couldnt help but respond )
    Last edited by pai nai ma; 31-08-2008 at 04:01 PM.

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    i guess what i find bizarre about it is that the rubes on the right who can't even follow what's happening.

    bush should just cut out the middle man and make obama sec. of state for the next few months until he takes over in jan.

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    I hope so. But I have been surprised before by the conservative (and often self-centered and ignorant) nature of many americans.

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    Actually, I think they know it to. Thus the sudden palatability of McCaiin whom many of them respect solely for his pow shit but really despise/eschew politically.

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    Ray, did you hear Bush has requested a session with the supreme court justices to form an exploratory committee for a possible constitutional amendment...

    4 more years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Ray, did you hear Bush has requested a session with the supreme court justices to form an exploratory committee for a possible constitutional amendment...

    4 more years...
    I have never been a betting man, but I would bet my house on Bush winning another one, were it possible to run again.
    I don't have much faith in the US electorate at the best of times, but surely not . . .

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    Re: George W sending a representative to Iran, the rep was there as part of a multi-national group and was only there as an observer with no authority to negotiate just listen and take notes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick
    George W sending a representative to Iran
    Undersecretary William Burns who directly reports to Rice can hardly be deemed a "representative" attending to "take notes".

    All just another example of the GWB administration's history of refusing to admit negotiations are the path to getting things resolved but are doing just that in Iran and North Korea. I applaud the move but condemn the administrations attempt to continue it's "no negotiations" rhetoric when all can see their actions in fact, are negotiations.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    but I would bet my house on Bush winning another one, were it possible to run again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick
    the rep was there as part of a multi-national group and was only there as an observer with no authority to negotiate just listen and take notes


    I think many Republicans are truly in denial.

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    The New Straits Times reported this morning that there are nude pictures of Ms Palin circulating on the net. Unfortunately they did not publish the pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Ray, did you hear Bush has requested a session with the supreme court justices to form an exploratory committee for a possible constitutional amendment...

    4 more years...
    I have never been a betting man, but I would bet my house on Bush winning another one, were it possible to run again.
    I don't have much faith in the US electorate at the best of times, but surely not . . .
    Panana hat is joking, I think because of his second sentence. But, GWB has the lowest approval rating in history. 8 years, and the economic difficulties, and many other things.

    No, I don't think he'd be re-elected. And a high percentage of GOP voters strongly dislike him according to polls.

    That said, a term limit for Presidents is a good thing for many reasons. The Executive has the most power in government of the 3 branches.
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    I have never been a betting man, but I would bet my house on Bush winning another one, were it possible to run again.
    Hope your house ain't worth much.

    "A new poll suggests that President Bush is the most unpopular president in modern American history. A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Thursday indicates that 71 percent of the American public disapprove of how Bush is handling his job as president."


    Poll: More disapprove of Bush than any other president - CNN.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel Toe View Post
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    Historically VPs don't matter much to the minds of voters. .
    What about Reagan he needed a work horse VP in the shape of GH Bush to ease electorate worries about his age and quickly degenerating mental health.

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