Thread: HIV Infection risks

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It is nagging that causes gonorrhea.
Whenever she starts nagging I have to go out and that's when I get it

Originally Posted by obsidian

^^ (bull shit) linky, please.

Here smart ass, but if you so smart, "Prechewed food and hiv" to goggle and there is plenty anyway here is one,

Pre-Chewed Food Passes HIV to Kids - TIME

Three such cases were reported in the United States from 1993-2004, government scientists said Wednesday in a presentation in Boston at a scientific conference.
It's blood, not saliva, that carried the virus because in at least two of the cases the infected mothers had bleeding gums or mouth sores, according to investigators at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
CDC officials say more study is needed. But they are asking parents and caregivers with HIV not to pre-chew infants' food, and are trying to educate doctors about this kind of transmission.
Health officials believe chewed-food transmission is rare in the United States, where such behavior is considered unusual. In some countries, mothers do it because they have no access to baby food or a means of pulverizing food for toothless infants.

Originally Posted by Dalton

DD and DTW...I'll buy the mozzie theory at the same day you two can convince my wife, that it's very easy to get gonorrhea from a public toilet ( that's how I got mine..I swear) and not from shagging some other girl....as she says I did..

Funny you mentioned that since I was compiling the above facts at the time..

It seems that your gf though is smarter than you and more educated too on the facts of life I don't have your problems with my wife... So I guess you'll have to sort your own stories by being more creative...

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by obsidian

^^ (bull shit) linky, please.

Here smart ass, but if you so smart, "Prechewed food and hiv" to goggle and there is plenty anyway here is one,

Pre-Chewed Food Passes HIV to Kids - TIME

Three such cases were reported in the United States from 1993-2004, government scientists said Wednesday in a presentation in Boston at a scientific conference.
It's blood, not saliva, that carried the virus because in at least two of the cases the infected mothers had bleeding gums or mouth sores, according to investigators at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
CDC officials say more study is needed. But they are asking parents and caregivers with HIV not to pre-chew infants' food, and are trying to educate doctors about this kind of transmission.
Health officials believe chewed-food transmission is rare in the United States, where such behavior is considered unusual. In some countries, mothers do it because they have no access to baby food or a means of pulverizing food for toothless infants.

Still learning, it seems, and those dates aren't recent they're still evaluating past data for answers ..

Originally Posted by Driventowin

So I guess you'll have to sort your own stories by being more creative...

You see, it's there you an DD comes in the picture...on the creative part...

^It's that sort of talent that solves world issues.. And ends up making it a better place..

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Still learning, it seems, and those dates aren't recent they're still evaluating past data for answers ..

If you would have checked the date of the article it is Feb. 06 2008.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Still learning, it seems, and those dates aren't recent they're still evaluating past data for answers ..

If you would have checked the date of the article it is Feb. 06 2008.

Yes...But the data is dated between 1993 and 2004. Which is what I'm referring to..
I wasn't disputing your post I was agreeing with it and quoting it..

I think if gnat's can transmit blue tongue from sheep to cow's etc, it is quite possible mossie's can transmit HIV from person to person.

Well this is what I'm talking about....Anytime the medical community having the cynical type of nature that they do is willing to come out and unequivocally state that a given disease in it's infancy of discovery is absolutely not spread by certain means, to me it always raises my suspicions as to what the actual agenda is behind their stiff insistence while still being so uneducated about the disease.

It leads me to believe the opposite is more likely.. And the truth is more diverse than is being expressed..

^
There are five people with AIDS who constantly test negative for HIV (sorry no link) but they say HIV leads to AIDS.

However when 3 people in 10 years get infected by prechewing food then they say the whole world should stop feeding kids this way.

The human body is quite callous in how it handles mistreatment and the perversion of its natural functions. When two men mimic the act of heterosexual intercourse with one another, they create an environment, a biological counterfeit, wherein disease can thrive. Unnatural behaviors beget natural consequences.

"In recent years our culture has adopted a laissez faire attitude toward sexual deviancy. Television shows like Will and Grace glorify the homosexual lifestyle while our children are taught in schools that homosexuality is a perfectly healthy, alternative sexual 'orientation.' 'Stay out of our bedrooms!' we're often commanded by militant 'gay' activists.

Epidemic Feared - 'Gay's' May Spread Deadly Staph Infection to General Population

There are five people with AIDS who constantly test negative for HIV (sorry no link) but they say HIV leads to AIDS.

not surprised that you have no link , 'cause this statement is impossible given the defination of AIDS .

What is AIDS?

AIDS stands for acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. When HIV infection becomes advanced it often is referred to as AIDS. It generally occurs when the CD4 count is below 200/mL and is characterized by the appearance of opportunistic infections .........

stopaids.org

Originally Posted by Thetyim

However when 3 people in 10 years get infected by prechewing food then they say the whole world should stop feeding kids this way.

This is what I'm talking about. They make this kind of cautious warning for just these 3 cases but make an immediate judgement without definitive proof still to this day supposedly about infection due to Mosquito bites..That is what really raises my suspicions about the actual truth or IF they even know with the certainty the profess? Clearly according to the link that CMN kindly provided they can't make that statement definitively since that article is littered with uncertainties and non-committals....

From this very scenario they are clearly suggesting this from a modern society point of view and not from a third or even forth world perspective where this scenario is very plausible with maybe several people sleeping in a very small room together where numerous given mossie's can easily move from one person to the other..

Additionally in this scenario they are referring to a single mosquito and not the potential for dozens of bites in a single night which would obviously substantially increase the potential for infection....

As the very first blogger at the bottom posts it is all still a little too vague to make such definitive claims IMO..

Conversely in answer to my other query. They suggest that the HIV virus is digested by the mosquito. If that is the case and they can prove it for certain without speculation, why isn't a ton of study going into how that process of chemicals can be converted into a vaccine?? Or even a cure....

With today's DNA technology and biochemistry testing breaking these compounds down should be no real issue..

Another point of contention is the fact that they say no "evidence" of mosquito transmission. Just how would you get that? Who would you infect?? If a person is already infected the standard questions are who did you sleep with? Not how many mosquito bites have you had?? And who knows for certain going down the line who infected who if mosquito's are in the mix?? It's all speculation at best on the entire medical community they want us to believe everything to put your mind at ease..Though most are just following the crowd of "Officials" who have determined the course of direction this was going to take very early on..

Bottom line is they think we can't handle the truth and they're most likely correct..The prospects scare the hell out of us..And rightly so..

me thinks you sound nut-like on this topic, drive2.

(loud microphone tap x's three) it appears i own blackgang an apology. bg, i apologize for doubting you and subjecting you to ridicule on the point of mothers prechewing food and passing hiv onto infants. i was wrong.

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

blood transfusion - 90% Mother to Child at birth - 25% (reduced to 1% with treatment) Sharing Needles - 0.67% (no recorded cases when sterlised) Receiving Anal - 0.5% (0.075% with condom) Receiving Vagina - 0.1% (0.015% with condom) Penetration Anal - 0.065% (0.01% with condom) Penetration Vagina - 0.05% (0.0075% with condom) Giving Blow Job - 0.01% (0.0015% with condom) Receiving Blow Job - 0.005% (0.00075% with condom) kissing - No recorded cases

reasonably accurate i believe, but still not worth it. also these stats assume no other infections, and that the partner is in a low risk group, as soon as you meddle in a higher risk group the chances increase exponentially.

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

Basically your taking 10 times the risk with BB compared to OWO, the main reason being that the virus is not in a high enough concertration within salvia to spread, and the spread occurs due to blood in the girl (or boys) mouth. Sex with a condom is more risky than OWO. It also must be remembered that if all WGs gave BB, then it doesnt 'only' become ten times as risky, because 10 times (we're assuming contraction is only through Sex, and not drug use with that one) more people in our WG/Punter group will be infected, making it 100 times more risky.

I got no idea wot all those abbreviations stand for!

(and neither do i really wish to know. leave it for the sex site mongers!)

Originally Posted by Driventowin

The real truth is it can be transmitted by mosquitos..Look at the data everywhere the highest population of mosquitos are there is also an extreme rate of HIV. I have other facts and anecdotal evidence

you idiot!

anecdotal evidence does not make facts.

in fact that statement is on par with Mugabe's (alleged) claims that AIDS was put into condoms just to kill blacks!

Originally Posted by kingwilly

in fact that statement is on par with Mugabe's (alleged) claims that AIDS was put into condoms just to kill blacks!

Everyone knows that is a bunch of shit,, just as everyone knows it was put here to control fags.555

Originally Posted by blackgang

just as everyone knows it was put here to control fags.555

Originally Posted by blackgang

but with the anal penetration and recieving I just took

Don't let it stop you lving the life you choose, BG.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

you idiot!

anecdotal evidence does not make facts.

in fact that statement is on par with Mugabe's (alleged) claims that AIDS was put into condoms just to kill blacks!

The entire AIDS/HIV argument is mostly anecdotal but what professional experience do you have that allows you to call me an Idiot?? Same goes for you to OB?

None of what I have presented is manufactured, which is what a nutter, nut-like or an idiot would use.. It's all the very theory, conjecture and query that an intellectual would use. I get the distinct impression that the real problem here is that I'm speaking way above the head of an ignorant audience..And they're resentful for it...

stll dont understand your abbreviations.

oh I see, your so smart but the rest of the world is not,

ok then.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

I got no idea wot all those abbreviations stand for!

(and neither do i really wish to know. leave it for the sex site mongers!)

Are you accusing me of something?

Abbiviation help for those in the monastry:

BB - Bare Back (as in not using a condom)
OWO - Oral Without - i.e. oral sex, no condom
WGs - Working girls (bar girls, prossies, go-go dancers, good time girls)
Punter - bloke who frequents above...

Happy now?