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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    McCain's star is fading fast
    taking into account your prognostication track record regarding the republican nomination, i now consider mccain a lock to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    McCain's star is fading fast
    taking into account your prognostication track record regarding the republican nomination, i now consider mccain a lock to win.
    He11, I don't know - w/9 months to go...

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    These campaigns are still to early to call. If I had to call it today it would be McCain vs. Obama.

    No way to really call it yet. I am surprised Rudi has imploded so early though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Nothing Robotic about him. He's like the Mormon version of Mao. He'd have everybody wearing funny underwear, and giving the Mormon church 10% if elected.
    Rather like the funny underwear bit. Sounds kinky. Giving the Mormon church 10% would be a big let down for the Mormons. I'm sure their tax free status on earnings gives them more like 35%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    I am surprised Rudi has imploded so early though.
    He badly misjudged the importance of Iowa and NH. His campaign strategy was very flawed.

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    I'm saying brrr because I doubt Obama will live to see the end of the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    I'm saying brrr because I doubt Obama will live to see the end of the race.
    Do you mean that in a cryptic sense? Like someone will take him out ala Kennedy style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee View Post
    These campaigns are still to early to call. If I had to call it today it would be McCain vs. Obama.

    No way to really call it yet. I am surprised Rudi has imploded so early though.
    Spot on, CT.

    Too early too call.

    I've gotten some candidates wrong on both parties.

    I think Romney is younger at 60, than McCain, who has had his chance.

    Romney seems sharper in economics, also. Immigration, too.

    But McCain has name recognition, and he may fair very well on Feb. 5th.

    The FL primary results will be known to us when we wake up tomorrow morning. Polling seems tight (if we can trust the polls).
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Do you mean that in a cryptic sense? Like someone will take him out ala Kennedy style?
    I wouldn't be surprised if he is taken out by one of those compassionate Christian fundies, hopefully in a suicide bombing, to show the world that terrorism is universal and not limited to Muslim fundies

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    BBC NEWS | Americas | US election focus turns to south

    If you look at the article above, the table will show you that although OB has "lost" more primaries than HC, he has 38 delegates to her 36.

    What interested me however, was an article in yesterday's Sydney Morning Herald which said that the person you should be looking for - among the Democrats - is neither HC nor OB but Edwards. The reason why? He currently has 18 delegates and, subject to what happens on Super Tuesday, is almost certainly going to have enough delegates to make up any difference between the two. So, according to the SMH, either HC or OB could "lose" the primary, but so long as the offer JE a good enough carrot, could still win the nomination.

    I love democracy in action
    Democrats also use "super delegates" that have more power than delegates

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    McCain's star is fading fast
    taking into account your prognostication track record regarding the republican nomination, i now consider mccain a lock to win.
    I heard McCain talking at a rally and he said "my friends, my friends, we have had wars, we are in a war, and there will be more wars, there will be more wars..."

    Really hope this guy doesn't win Florida; if he does he'll have proved himself a viable Presidential candidate and that's scary...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootad Binky View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    McCain's star is fading fast
    taking into account your prognostication track record regarding the republican nomination, i now consider mccain a lock to win.
    I heard McCain talking at a rally and he said "my friends, my friends, we have had wars, we are in a war, and there will be more wars, there will be more wars..."

    Really hope this guy doesn't win Florida; if he does he'll have proved himself a viable Presidential candidate and that's scary...
    Would you rather have Romney? You will be attending services at your nearest Mormon Temple, wearing weird underwear, and abstaining from alcohol, tobaco, and caffeine.

    You want that?

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    ^ Mormonism is a CULT.

    Freaks.

    But if he keeps his kooky peudo-religion to himself, and can run a economy, fine.

    We don't have many choices. Heck, look who we've had the last 8 years.

    Fookin' shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee View Post
    Would you rather have Romney? You will be attending services at your nearest Mormon Temple, wearing weird underwear, and abstaining from alcohol, tobaco, and caffeine.

    You want that?
    Any of the Democrats are fine; anything is better than McCain or Romney. Guiliani seemed least offensive, and he's history.

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    My man, Duncan Hunter is/was the only candidate with a clue...
    Last edited by Boon Mee; 30-01-2008 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    We don't have many choices. Heck, look who we've had the last 8 years.

    Fookin' shame.
    Given the hand tough hand that was dealt him Dubya's faired well really.
    Freedom is contagious and threatens to infect the whole world.
    The horror.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    ^ Mormonism is a CULT.

    Freaks.

    But if he keeps his kooky peudo-religion to himself, and can run a economy, fine.

    We don't have many choices. Heck, look who we've had the last 8 years.

    Fookin' shame.
    No, I seriously know these people well. Lived among them for many years. They're kind of like that alien movie where they lived among humans disguised as humans, but eventually taking over everyone's body one by one.

    Drastic, but seriously, Romney would stack the White House and Administration with Mormons to advance their agenda. They're the most clannish people I've ever seen.

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    McCain wins in Fla., Giuliani to quit

    McCain wins in Fla., Giuliani to quit

    By DAVID ESPO and LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writers 6 minutes ago

    MIAMI - Sen. John McCain won a breakthrough triumph in the Florida primary Tuesday night, gaining the upper hand in the battle for the Republican presidential nomination ahead of next week's contests across 21 states and lining up a quick endorsement from soon-to-be dropout Rudy Giuliani.


    McCain beats Romney to win Fla. primary - Yahoo! News

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    I'm saying brrr because I doubt Obama will live to see the end of the race.
    Do you mean that in a cryptic sense? Like someone will take him out ala Kennedy style?
    Knowing the sentiment of some of the right wing elite, I fear they would never ever allow a black to be their leader -- the lower-class blacks especially will have a field day with Obama as prez. The reverse racism and taunts would not be swallowed by the white elite -- I don't think they're ready and they can get anything done. (Kinda like a Dutch Indonesian or a French black being elected PM. Not anytime soon.) Hence, the secret service security on Obama now. I hate to say it -- I just have a bad feeling. A pity as the man is honest and his plans seem to be coming together (not that I like them). Forogt to add, the big biz's will be going thru his economic and tax packages -- I would say they would kill to keep what they have.

    OK, mormon underwear:

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    ^Yes, I have seen them up close. A good friend wore them until he got ex-communicated. They have little white pasties over the nipples that signify something religious.

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    Can somebody that actually understands the primary elections explain why the Florida democratic vote didn't count for anything.

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    ^only for the democrats.
    In August 2007, the Democratic National Committee voted to strip the Florida Democratic Party of its 210 national convention delegates because the Florida Democratic Delegate Selection Plan violates party rules. These rules state that only Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina can start their delegate selection process before 5 February 2008 but Florida has scheduled their primary for 29 January 2008. The DNC gave the Florida Democrats until 29 September 2007 to come up with an alternate delegate-selection plan that complies with party rules.
    link
    even after reading through this I don't really understand either.

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    The Dem party has penalised Florida for holding its vote before Feb 5, and has banned any delegates from the state to go to the Dem convention, where the party leader will be elected. So, no delegates, no vote to choose the dem leader.

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    thanks both.

    that sounds like a total cluster fuck to me.

    who is responsible?

    btw.
    an endorsement.

    is that simply someone saying that they support a particular candidate?
    is it important because so many Americans can't make up their own minds?

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    ^Herd mentality. An endorsement means he carries all his supporters over to the one he endorses. Powerful stuff. Wins elections.

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