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    Is it Time Up for DEI?

    I would welcome a return to a merit based approach to opportunity, so, despite the Trump administrations many problems, this is one policy position about it that I like.

    I would like to see other western powers adopting a similar position.

    The US administration made an early call that DEI could be an issue in the DC Blackhawk crash and it looks like that is panning out...


    Black Hawk pilot ignored instructions moments before plane collision

    The pilot of the military Black Hawk helicopter that collided with a passenger plane ignored instructions to change course seconds before the crash.

    The pilot of the military Black Hawk helicopter that collided with a passenger airplane over Washington in January ignored instructions to change course seconds before the crash, according to a new report.

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    The report, published by the New York Times on Sunday, detailed the Black Hawk’s exchanges with air traffic controllers in the lead-up to the disaster, which left 67 people dead.

    According to the report, the Black Hawk pilot, captain Rebecca Lobach, was conducting her annual flight evaluation and her co-pilot, Chief Warrant Officer 2 Andrew Loyd Eaves, was serving as her flight instructor.

    “The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach. He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank,” the Times wrote.

    “Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet (90 metres). She did not turn left,” the report said.

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    Lobach, of Durham, North Carolina, served as an aviation officer in the Army beginning in July 2019, and had around 500 hours of flying time in the Black Hawk, the Army said in a release. Lobach was assigned to the 12th Aviation Battalion in Fort Belvoir, Virginia.

    https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...da82162b5c5417

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    More fucking drivel.

    Completely ignores all the male pilots that have made tragic mistakes.

    Did your mother abuse you as child, or is there another reason you're an incel retard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    The US administration made an early call that DEI could be an issue in the DC Blackhawk crash and it looks like that is panning out...
    Yes , women should not be allowed to drive . Bicycles might also be a problem

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    Get a grip Looper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Did your mother abuse you as child, or is there another reason you're an incel retard?
    A forum for civil discussion and exchange of ideas. No flaming or abuse allowed. All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    you're an incel retard?
    Looper, an incel? The evidence says otherwise.

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    ^^But yer a cnut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    so, despite the Trump administrations many problems, this is one policy position about it that I like.
    Oh another one. Is there anything you dislike? You have never once mentioned that the orange moron is trying to subvert the US Constitution, among many other things. What an utter fuckwit.

    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Looper, an incel? The evidence says otherwise.
    Incels can hire prostitutes too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Incels can hire prostitutes too!
    Do you know what the "cel" in incel means snubbie?

    Fer fuksakes man. Looper has a different opinion than some of you. So what. Debate him on the merits of your opinion, don't just fling poo.
    The Left have become the most intolerant members of society. And I'm a leftie. Be nice to everybody.
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    Maybe Canada should join Nato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Looper, an incel? The evidence says otherwise.
    He hates women, he hates trannies, talk about insecure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    A forum for civil discussion and exchange of ideas. No flaming or abuse allowed. All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting.

    You can get fucked too.



    Or play "Spot the DEI hire".

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    He hates women, he hates trannies, talk about insecure.
    Yet plays dress up in high heels and stalkings.

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    Self loathing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Looper, an incel? The evidence says otherwise.

    Really? Ask all the woman who found out that their husbands were gay… folks try to hide such proclivities by kidding themselves and usually trying too hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Incels can hire prostitutes too!
    Bingo.

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    Looper, pilots are human, they make mistakes, men and women alike.
    The issue re thus case is that the route was an accident waiting to happen. Too little vertical separation for the route taking it dangerously close to passenger aircraft on final approach. Situation was made worse by it being at night with helo pilots using nvg. If you have ever worn nvg you would know that estimating distance to lights is close to impossible.
    As far as I'm aware, there wasn't a direct instruction to turn left. It was more misunderstanding than failure to obey an instruction.

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    An interesting topic, similar to the race and gender of NASA astronauts being pre-chosen for the upcoming lunar landing mission. Instead of the five best astronauts being chosen on merit, it was declared that one would be a specific gender, one would be a specific race. Why not choose the best five whether they are all black females, pink trannies, or yellow gays.

    Sad to see the hate and anger towards the OP, but the jealousy towards his fantastic life and lifestyle from some of the more unfortunate board members is understandable.

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    and here we have it.

    somebody expresses an opinion, and those with differing opinions, rather than offer convincing arguments against that opinion, resort to insults and ridiculous accusations of insanity and perversion.

    straight out of the "pathetic left wing provocateurs handbook"


    ....and yes, DEI is a toxic racist ideology leading to a lowering of standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Sad to see the hate and anger towards the OP, but the jealousy towards his fantastic life and lifestyle from some of the more unfortunate board members is understandable.
    Like your massive scale jealousy of Stumpy? What a fucking clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Instead of the five best astronauts being chosen on merit
    There is likely hundreds with the fitness and competence to chose from.

    So why wouldn't you choose a variety to encourage more diverse people to aim for positions as astronauts.

    Your idea that you could choose the 5 best on merit would be based on hair splitting opinion.

    Coming out with opinions when you harbour evangelical desires to see a final battle with the jewery on some archaic shore will always attract ridicule
    If you torture data for enough time , you can get it to say what you want.

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    Excellent post Looper. It's really important the most suitable people are flying helicopters in risky locations. This female pilot wasn't up to the job. Even when she had experienced people in the helicopter with her, she's still wasn't good enough. I chalk these deaths up to DEI pilots.

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    you harbour evangelical desires to see a final battle with the jewery on some archaic shore will always attract ridicule
    ..... as i suspect, will idiocy like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Your idea that you could choose the 5 best on merit
    Thank you.

    But I cannot really claim that it is my idea. Astronauts have always been chosen on merit. :-)


    Actually, fok it, I will claim it. The basis of all astronaut selection through the decades was based on my idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    I would welcome a return to a merit based approach to opportunity
    Could you explain how DEI thwarts merit based approaches to opportunity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Did your mother abuse you as child
    My mum did put a lot of pressure on me to attend football practice with the other boys when I was 10. She was worried about my proclivity for solitude. She even bribed me with a promise of a Fonzarelli leather jacket (PVC copy) if I attended just once practice (which I did - and got the jacket). But I would not go as far as to class this emotional pressure as child abuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    And I'm a leftie.
    My mum is also a mad leftie but we still manage to have good productive politically oriented conversations (which is more than can be said for some of my fellow TeakDOORians!). She turned 80 this week and on her birthday phone call I was careful to avoid politics. The conversation did stray onto Trump at the very end but I said that we should not spoil her birthday with any Trumpian tribulations and we left it alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    There is likely hundreds with the fitness and competence to chose from.

    So why wouldn't you choose a variety to encourage more diverse people to aim for positions as astronauts.
    Competition at that level, to go down in history as an astronaut, is intense. It deserves to go to the best. When you reward the leftist agenda with diversity quotas you cost people who deserve the spot more their opportunity. It is also politically counterproductive and breeds resentment of these minorities.

    It is fundamentally morally wrong to choose people for anything based on skin colour, dna, gender attributes, sexual orientation etc.. It is basically the same crime as the historical crime you are trying to atone for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    I would welcome a return to a merit based approach to opportunity
    Could you let me know when this was actually the case?

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