Hamas Attack, breakout from Gaza many rockets fired

**taxexile** · 04-04-2024, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by pickel

^
You're not even Jewish, are you?

what has that got to do with it?

are you a mohammedan?

**taxexile** · 04-04-2024, 06:15 PM

the hypocrisy of the ignorant continues unabated.

SIZE=5]The truth about Israel’s ‘friendly fire’

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David Cameron has got some front. The Foreign Secretary is haranguing Israel over its tragic unintentional killing of seven aid workers in Gaza, and yet he oversaw a war in which such ‘friendly fire’ horrors were commonplace. In fact, more than seven people were slain in accidental bombings under Cameron’s watch.

Terrible accidents happen in warIt was the Libya intervention of 2011. In that Nato-led excursion, in which Cameron, then prime minister, was an enthusiastic partner, numerous Libyans died as a result of misaimed bombs. Things got so bad that the West’s allies took to painting the roofs of their vehicles bright pink in an effort to avoid Nato’s missiles.

In one awful incident, 13 people were slaughtered by our ‘friendly fire’. Their number included not only anti-Gaddafi rebels but also ambulance workers. It was in the wake of this calamity that the rebels got out the pink paint. ‘How to avoid friendly fire? Libya rebels try pink’, said a headline at NBC News.

Yet now Cameron is on his high horse over Israel’s bombing of trucks carrying volunteers from the World Central Kitchen. He is demanding a ‘full, transparent explanation of what happened’. Fine. Three of the dead were British nationals, so it makes perfect sense Britain wants answers. But you would think a former PM who was involved in wars in which other accidents happened would understand that ‘friendly fire’, sadly, is all but inevitable in bloody conflict.

This is not to downplay the horror of what happened in Gaza on Monday. That civilians were killed while trying to help people, while trying to deliver food, is horrendous. It is fitting that the Israeli president Isaac Herzog has apologised for the bombings, and that the Israeli government has promised to get to the bottom of what happened.

And yet there is something off, even something nauseating, in all the Western finger-wagging.

It isn’t only Cameron. US president Joe Biden has also weighed in, saying he is ‘outraged’ by the killing of the aid workers. You can’t help but wonder whether he directed similar outrage at his own nation’s military when 37 Afghanis at a wedding party, mostly women and children, were killed by mistake in a US airstrike.

‘Stop killing Afghan civilians’, the then president of Afghanistan, Hamid Karzai, said to the newly elected US president, Barack Obama. And who was Obama’s vice-president? Biden, of course. You would think a man whose own military has killed huge numbers of people in error would understand that these things happen, even if every decent person would rather they didn’t.

Vast numbers of civilians have been killed by accident by the US in recent years. At another wedding party in 2004, this time in Iraq, 11 women and 14 children were killed by American fire. Was there a ‘full, transparent explanation’ for that calamity?

Terrible accidents happen in war. That’s because war is hell. If you hate the war in Gaza, as you should, then you should aim your ire at Hamas, the virulently anti-Semitic terror group that started this war with its pogrom against the people of southern Israel on 7 October. The seven decent souls of World Central Kitchen would be alive today had Hamas not taken the decision to visit its racist barbarism on the Jewish State.

For once war starts, error becomes unavoidable. There are few wars in history – none, perhaps – in which innocents have not perished in the violent maelstrom. What is striking about Israel’s mistake is that it is not being treated as ‘friendly fire’ at all. Instead it is held up as proof of Israel’s evil, evidence of its malevolence.

What is striking about Israel’s mistake is that it is not being treated as ‘friendly fire’ at all

Across social media, the cry goes up: Israel did this on purpose. It seems Israel is the only state not allowed to make mistakes. Where us decent Westerners kill friends in error, Israel does it intentionally, with malice at its heart. The double standards are staggering. It is hypocritical and ridiculous for the citizens of nations that have accidentally killed far more people than Israel to now lecture Israel about its wayward bombs.

It smacks of bigotry, too. We make mistakes, they commit crimes. We err, they murder. We should be forgiven, they should not. There’s an ironically neocolonialist bent to this fury with Israel, for it bigs up the West, despite its history of war crimes, as a suitable judge and jury of that uppity little state over there.

Indeed, it strikes me that something larger is at work here. It seems that some in the West are seeking to launder their reputations through attacking Israel. From Cameron to Biden, powerful men who have been involved in wars far more horrific and far less justified than Israel’s war on Hamas, are now pontificating against the Jewish State.

The historically illiterate left is lapping up the lectures Cameron, Biden and others are making to Israel. This isn’t ‘anti-imperialism’ – it’s the attempted rehabilitation of Western prestige on the back of bashing Israel. Shame on everyone involved.

The truth about Israel's 'friendly fire' | The Spectator

**helge** · 04-04-2024, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

the lectures Cameron, Biden and others are making to Israel.

Lectures ?

They are not giving any lectures.

They have been on Israel's side all the way and still is. They are doing damage control.

PR

Originally Posted by taxexile

The historically illiterate left

Don't know that Fraction. Something like the "Dumb as Fuck Right" ?

**taxexile** · 04-04-2024, 06:54 PM

they are calling for a cessation in arms supply to israel due to the fact that israel is breaking some law or other.

all that will do is weaken israel and strengthen hamas, hezbollah and iran.

the deluded west seems to think that rule based wars will control rogue states who fight dirty and endanger their civilians.

just watch out when the islamic extremists waiting in the wings and empowered by the weak and naïve wests obsession with tolerance, rights and "the law" come after your daughters in 10 years time.

the bearded mullahs of iran play a long game and one way or another intend to fulfill the prophecies of the koran.

hopefully israel will bomb the fuck out of them too.

**helge** · 04-04-2024, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

they are calling for a cessation in arms supply to israel due to the fact that israel is breaking some law or other.

Words.

There has been nearly 2 million resolutions or such directed at Israel. Nothing has come of them.

( your muslim hatred is showing, Tax)

**BLD** · 04-04-2024, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

they are calling for a cessation in arms supply to israel due to the fact that israel is breaking some law or other.

all that will do is weaken israel and strengthen hamas, hezbollah and iran.

the deluded west seems to think that rule based wars will control rogue states who fight dirty and endanger their civilians.

just watch out when the islamic extremists waiting in the wings and empowered by the weak and naïve wests obsession with tolerance, rights and "the law" come after your daughters in 10 years time.

the bearded mullahs of iran play a long game and one way or another intend to fulfill the prophecies of the koran.

hopefully israel will bomb the fuck out of them too.

Your quite a paranoid person with a limited world view I would say tax. You reek of doom and gloom. Why?

**pickel** · 05-04-2024, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

what has that got to do with it?

are you a mohammedan?

I'm an innocent civilian, so have empathy for innocent civilians caught up in Israeli war crimes.

Whereas you and snubs are "useful goyim".

You being whipped into a frenzy by the Zionist Telegraph, and snubs being indoctrinated by some Bro-Tube channel emanating from a basement.

**Neverna** · 05-04-2024, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by pickel

I'm an innocent civilian, so have empathy for innocent civilians caught up in Israeli war crimes.

Whereas you and snubs are "useful goyim".

You being whipped into a frenzy by the Zionist Telegraph, and snubs being indoctrinated by some Bro-Tube channel emanating from a basement.

I'd put money on taxexile being Jewish. He has dropped a few hints that he is so he obviously wants us to know that.

Maybe snubs is too, or maybe he's just a full-on Israeli apologist.

**Troy** · 05-04-2024, 01:05 AM

^ A Jewish Indian Dentist? Can you get any more unpopular in the UK than that?

No wonder Tax has such an attitude...

**helge** · 05-04-2024, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Neverna

I'd put money on taxexile being Jewish. He has dropped a few hints that he is so he obviously wants us to know that.

Maybe snubs is too, or maybe he's just a full-on Israeli apologist.

No and no

Posters here with either some jewish blood or jewish connections/friends, Sabang, PH, Betty, has in my experience taken a different approach.

The diplomatic route so to say.

Can't accuse Tax or Snubs of that.

Tax is cheering muslims getting killed by proxy and Snubs just shouts what he is told.

Not taking your bet though

**helge** · 05-04-2024, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Troy

A Jewish Indian Dentist?

India

A place of gruesome religious feuds and ethnic cleansing.

You could tank up on animosity from there

**Troy** · 05-04-2024, 02:11 AM

^ Got me...bad joke...never had an Indian enemy...

...on the other hand dentists, yeah, never had a friend.

As for snubby, he just believes whatever USGOV tells him to believe, being a decent ex GI wanabee an'all

**helge** · 05-04-2024, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Troy

Indian

I think that PH started that for some reason

And MalmøMickey was MI5-6 and SAS

(which is true)

**bsnub** · 05-04-2024, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by pickel

snubs being indoctrinated by some Bro-Tube channel emanating from a basement.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Maybe snubs is too, or maybe he's just a full-on Israeli apologist.

Originally Posted by Troy

As for snubby, he just believes whatever USGOV tells him to believe, being a decent ex GI wanabee an'all

I never knew there were so many indoctrinated lemmings on TD. This is an excellent interview with Mosab Hassan Yousef he is the oldest son of the co-founder of HAMAS. You lemmings could benefit greatly by listening to his wise words, but you won't watch because your indoctrination is complete.

**pickel** · 05-04-2024, 04:46 AM

^
I could post up videos of former IDF soldiers talking about the atrocities they were told to commit too, snubbie.

It doesn't change the fact that Israel is blocking food aid from reaching a starving population and have killed 195 aid workers and 95 journalists in this current war. And those numbers don't come from Hamas, before you try to pull out that overused trope again.

Get your nose out of Bibi's ass. He doesn't give a shit about the hostages. As long as they are held captive his ragtag bunch of right wing zealots still feel they can carry on with their murderous rampage. Even the majority of Israelis realise that, and want him gone.

**helge** · 05-04-2024, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by pickel

have killed 195 aid workers

203 as of today

Originally Posted by pickel

Even the majority of Israelis realise that, and want him gone.

Maybe, but 68% supports him in the mass murder.

More or less all jews or what ?

**pickel** · 05-04-2024, 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by helge

More or less all jews or what ?

Probably some Dr. Phil fans too.

**helge** · 05-04-2024, 05:12 AM

73% Jews
21% Arabs
6% others

Originally Posted by pickel

Dr. Phil fans

Philistines ?

**bsnub** · 05-04-2024, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by pickel

It doesn't change the fact that Israel is blocking food aid from reaching a starving population and have killed 195 aid workers and 95 journalists in this current war. And those numbers don't come from Hamas

No they come from UNRWA. It is just more BS.

Originally Posted by pickel

Get your nose out of Bibi's ass. He doesn't give a shit about the hostages.

Just like HAMAS couldn't care less about civilians. Your indoctrination is strong.

Originally Posted by pickel

Even the majority of Israelis realise that, and want him gone.

Israel would have defended itself regardless of who was president. You are talking in circles trying to redirect. Lots of obfuscation.

Originally Posted by helge

Maybe, but 68% supports him in the mass murder.

Another brainwashed idiot shows up.

**bsnub** · 05-04-2024, 06:11 AM

This one video smashes all of your lies and false narratives. It exposes your movement as the fraud that it is...

**pickel** · 05-04-2024, 06:20 AM

**bsnub** · 05-04-2024, 06:43 AM

^ Nice source...

U.S Tech Mogul Bankrolls Pro-Russia, Pro-China News Network

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nevill...ing-propaganda

You HAMAS supporters always eventually trip yourselves up.

You will not watch the video I posted. The son of HAMAS leader literally destroys all your false narratives.

**Norton** · 05-04-2024, 08:22 AM

Israel good, Russia bad for doing the same thing. Targeting civilians. Go figure.

**pickel** · 05-04-2024, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Nice source...

Okay Dr. Phil. Should be easy for you to pick apart then. Or you could just carry on calling people names.

You keep calling me a Hamas supporter. Got a link for where I've said I support Hamas? Put up or shut up.

The fact remains that Israel is preventing food aid from getting to a starving population and killing aid workers and journalists. What do you think should be done about that?

Should they carry on doing it, and then invade Rafah and carry on some more? Maybe after they've destroyed every building in Gaza Bibi could put on a flight suit and give a speech in front of a big banner that says "Mission Accomplished". That always works, right?

I'm not going to watch your very long video of an Israeli spy, because I already know what he is going to say. Israel is better than the Russians at well crafted talking points to hoodwink people such as yourself. I have barely listened to what Hamas has to say too. I listen to the benevolent, empathetic, and selfless aid groups with boots on the ground that do more good for the world in one day, than you or I will likely do in our lifetime. Much better sources imo.

Why don't you be honest and tell us what your final solution is for this problem? Instead of just calling people names and dirtying your screen with spittle. The floor is yours Herr Snub.

**pickel** · 05-04-2024, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

Israel good, Russia bad for doing the same thing. Targeting civilians. Go figure.

I watched 20 Days in Mariupol the other night, and couldn't help but see a comparison, with the situation in Gaza being much worse. But snubbie says no innocent civilians are dying in Gaza, so I guess we just have to take his word for it, since all the journalists are being killed.

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