Thread: Hamas Attack, breakout from Gaza many rockets fired

The UN has been complicit for decades, pushing lies about a false genocide and the useful idiots in the west swallow the lies and lapse into hysteric hissy fits...

GAZA CITY—Hidden deep below the headquarters of the United Nations’ aid agency for Palestinians here is a Hamas complex with rows of computer servers that Israel’s armed forces say served as an important communications center and intelligence hub for the Islamist militant group.

Part of a warren of tunnels and subterranean chambers carved from the Gaza Strip’s sandy soil, the compound below the United Nations Relief and Works Agency buildings in Gaza City appears to have run on electricity drawn from the U.N.’s power supply, Israeli officials said.

A Wall Street Journal reporter and journalists from other news organizations visited the site this week in a trip organized by Israel’s military. A tunnel also appeared to pass beneath a U.N.-run school near the headquarters.

The location of a Hamas military installation under important U.N. facilities is evidence, Israeli officials say, of Hamas’s widespread use of sensitive civilian infrastructure as shields to protect its militant activities. Tunnel complexes have also been found near or under some of Gaza’s largest hospitals.

Israel’s discovery of the Hamas operations below Unrwa offices is likely to put further pressure on the agency, which is facing international scrutiny after Israeli allegations that at least 12 of its employees had links to Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack on Israel, which authorities say killed 1,200 people.

Israeli military officials assert that people working at Unrwa would have been aware of the tunnel complex, either from activities during its construction or by what they said would have been a jump in electricity usage when the complex started operating.

Unrwa said in a statement that reports of tunnels under its Gaza headquarters “merit an independent inquiry,” and said that it “does not have the military and security expertise nor the capacity to undertake military inspections of what is or might be under its premises.”

The agency, which evacuated from the Gaza City compound on Oct. 12, said Israel hadn’t officially informed it of any Hamas complex under its offices. It also said that whenever a suspicious cavity has been discovered near an Unrwa facility, it has filed protest letters to authorities in Gaza as well as the Israeli government.

An Unrwa spokeswoman said the agency is unaware of any electricity being siphoned from its facilities by Hamas.

Unrwa under pressure from donors

Unrwa provides housing, schooling, healthcare and other services to nearly six million Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. The organization’s main donors, including the U.S., have frozen funding pending the outcome of an investigation into the allegations.

U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres has pleaded with donor nations not to suspend aid because of the alleged criminal acts of individual employees because Unrwa is playing the leading role in delivering aid to Gaza.
Unrwa is an unusual U.N. body, tasked with looking after just one group of people: displaced Palestinians. Some of Israel’s political leaders have argued that Unrwa should be abolished. Others say Unrwa would be difficult to replace given the breadth of services it provides, including the delivery of humanitarian assistance.

Israel has come under intense international criticism for its conduct of the war in Gaza, which has included intense airstrikes and fighting in and around hospitals, U.N. buildings and other civilian sites. More than 28,000 Gazans have been killed, most of them women and children, according to Palestinian health authorities. The figures don’t distinguish between combatants and civilians.

Israeli military officials say that after the Oct. 7 attack, Israel has no choice but to destroy Hamas. They argue they cannot accomplish that without striking Hamas installations protected by civilian infrastructure.

Israeli military officials say they have known about the complex under Unrwa’s headquarters for a few years but say they decided they couldn’t use airstrikes to target it because of the U.N. presence above.

Israel has long alleged that Hamas has penetrated Unrwa and radicalized the organization, particularly in Gaza, where Hamas came to power via a coup in 2007. Israeli military intelligence has estimated in recent weeks that roughly 10% of Unrwa’s 12,000 or so employees in Gaza, most of whom are Palestinian, have ties to the militant group, including nearly a quarter of its male employees—a percentage that Israel says is higher than the roughly 15% of Gaza males who are linked to the group, through either its military or political wings.

Unrwa has pushed back on the allegation and questioned how Israel came up with such a broad figure.

Underground lair

Journalists who accompanied the Israeli military to Gaza City’s heavily damaged al-Rimal neighborhood in northern Gaza were shown the Hamas tunnel network, which snaked for about a half mile beneath U.N. and other buildings in the area.

To show that the subterranean intelligence hub was underneath the Unrwa compound, an Israeli military officer, a lieutenant colonel who asked to be identified by his first name, Ido, placed a few small items belonging to the journalists in a white bucket, which he lowered deep into a well-like hole dug by the Israeli military.

The next time the journalists saw their things, they were in the same bucket inside the electricity room powering the Hamas base. “20 meters above us, it’s the U.N. headquarters,” the officer said, pointing up as he handed the items back.

The officer, a commander of the 401st brigade, described the base as a key intelligence hub that directed local military operations, and said that by placing it under the Unrwa headquarters, Hamas was clearly determined to keep Israel from finding it or bombing it.

Next to the room with computer servers, which was air-conditioned, was an electricity-supply room fitted with massive batteries, apparently to serve as a backup if power was disrupted.

The electricity room and server room were beneath the Unrwa compound’s own electrical supply room, the officer said. He said wires snaked down into the underground base from the Unrwa compound, allowing Hamas to steal electricity from the U.N agency to power its underground facility.

Electrical wires from the room could be seen heading up, while electrical wires in the Unrwa electrical room headed into the ground. The Journal couldn’t independently determine whether they were the same wires.

To get to the server hub, the group of journalists first traveled to a location about half a mile from the U.N. headquarters, where the Israeli military had dug through a parking lot to access the tunnel network leading to the underground base. The parking lot was next to a bombed-out Unrwa school. Israel’s military said the underground network passed beneath the Unrwa school.

The group walked for some 10 minutes through the tunnel, whose ceilings were low enough that everyone had to hunch over as they walked, before arriving at the heart of the underground compound. Along the way, there were several air-conditioning units. The Journal reporter hadn’t seen such units in other Hamas tunnels, which are normally hot, dusty and humid.

The compound consisted of a long, wide hall with a variety of rooms, all of which had white tiles on the floor and walls. Another room had a cluster of comfortable office chairs. An Israeli officer said that room was used as a command and control site.

Nearby, a few other rooms appeared to have been largely emptied. One room had a safe, which was closed, as well as an empty server rack. There had also been several computers in the room, said the officer, that had been taken away to be studied by the military.

Doug Madory, director of internet firm Kentik, based in San Francisco, said the server racks could be used to process intelligence, such as phone data.

“This is a setup you might see in a small office years ago,” he said, adding, “It doesn’t mean it’s not doing something serious.” He said without knowing what was on the servers it would be hard to know what they were used for.

Near the electricity and server rooms were posters left by Hamas’s military branch, the Al-Qassam brigades, with special instructions for how the operatives should conduct themselves. One poster urged operatives to be careful to guard the site’s secrets.

“You must know that keeping secrets is a religious duty,” the poster begins in red.

Israeli military officials said they knew that Hamas was operating under Unwra’s headquarters at least as far back as spring 2021, the last time the two sides had a major conflict.
For years, Unrwa and the Israeli military have reported occasionally finding weapons caches at Unrwa schools or facilities.

In 2014, part of the parking lot at the Unrwa field office headquarters—perhaps a few hundred yards from where the Hamas tunnels now run—began sinking, likely due to Hamas tunnel work, according to a former top Unrwa official. Everyone at Unrwa knew what was happening, he said, but didn’t want to look too closely.

The two dozen or so international staff at the Unrwa offices might have had no idea that a Hamas complex sat beneath the offices and were unlikely to check an electricity supply room, said James Lindsay, a former legal counsel for the agency.

Local staff were far more likely to know, but could have been either sympathetic to the militant group or afraid to denounce the activity. “Am I shocked that this would happen in a totalitarian state? No. People who lived under Communist rule were also afraid.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-eas...-gaza-7e29c758

Snubs, I hate to say it, but you are our equivalent of Oh Oh.

Just a a stupid American who has never left your country and has little to no understanding of the world.

You give your generally ok bedfellows a bad name.

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Snubs, I hate to say it, but you are our equivalent of Oh Oh.

A quick knee-jerk reaction from one of the aforementioned snivelers. No way you could have read the article and already flailing away. Good and brainwashed.

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Just a a stupid American who has never left your country and has little to no understanding of the world.

You clueless blabbering idiot I lived in the EU for a combined period of seven years and have visited many countries. Stop the hysterical false narrative bullshit it just proves you have no real solid arguement.

Originally Posted by hallelujah

You give your generally ok bedfellows a bad name.

Another snivelling, hysteric useful idiot along with your fellow clown genticles.

Clown

It's s shame, mate.

You have become the archetypal American though.

And that is not a compliment from a European.

Originally Posted by hallelujah

You have become the archetypal American though.

What I am is someone that sees truth. Your response is one that exposes the fact that you have no credible argument. Because the entire Palestinian movement is based on fraud and lies. You have not even bothered to address the contents of the article I posted. Just flailing away like you have been programmed to do. Utterly brainwashed, do you rip the posters of the kidnapped Israeli civilians down like the other sheeple?

Originally Posted by hallelujah

You have become the archetypal American though.

You live in a bubble. Plenty of Brits are seeing the truth. Not everyone is a lemming.

Originally Posted by hallelujah

archetypal American

Interesting term. Care to elaborate?

People like Hal are indoctrinated by the propaganda they consume, whether it be media or the words of people they associate with. I have been fighting it for the better part of two decades, here and other places. Loons like Boon Mee and Sabang are two good examples of former posters on here that knowingly spread lies to push their shitty agendas.

The Palestinian "cause" is just another part of that propaganda. Palestinian activists are the leftist equivalent to MAGA cultists, they are both indoctrinated cults. The difference is the message, and MAGA is fascist while the Pali whingers are Marxist.

At the end of the day, the ruzzians have their hooks deep in both groups.

Originally Posted by bsnub

People like Hal are indoctrinated by the Ale they consume,

You signed up to Ukrainianhotties.com yet?



Fixed that for you.

Originally Posted by bsnub

At the end of the day, the ruzzians have their hooks deep in both groups.

Snubbie would have made an excellent little Nazi, a summa cum laude graduate of the Hitler Jugend, he would have been the perfect ghetto blaster, burning and slaughtering the Yids in Warsaw with great gusto.

The poor deluded, tortured buffoon, so stupid he can’t recognise his own brand of butchery.

First you dehumanise your enemy, then you destroy their homes, their schools, their workplaces, their hospitals, then you kill their children, their mothers, grandmothers, their sisters, their aunts and then you bomb and burn indiscriminately killing everyone.

Israelis are the new Nazis, the irony of all ironies, and Snub is a fan boy, sucking on their dogma of biblical resentment perverting their humanity.

Israel is an illegitimate state and the sooner Iran gets an atomic bomb, the better.

The only thing the Israelis respond to is brute force - a million of the fuckers are fucking Russian louts so the savagery is in their DNA.

Fuck ‘em.

No decent minded person in the world gives a fuck about the Jews in Israel now they have been shown up to be mass murderers.

And along comes the little brainwashed Marxist moron from Northern Ireland, spewing lies and propaganda. The useful idiot is right on cue. A real lowlife. You scum from NI always support the most vile despots of the world.

Originally Posted by Norton

Interesting term. Care to elaborate?

You can switch it to an American abroad.

As a well travelled yank man, you know what I mean though.

Snubs is the embodiment of your fellow countrymen who don't leave home.

He's (almost) as bad as Oh Oh.

^^Surely your comments are better addressed to Gestapo Snubbie.

Anyway, we Irish have always supported Palestine in its fight for freedom and have nothing but admiration for HAMAS, PLO, and all the other brave fighters who’ve sacrificed their lives in the struggle against the Israeli tyrant and their continuing invasion of Palestine.

We know what it is like to have a divided country and one that suffered the jackboot oppression of a vicious and loathsome invader for over 400 years.

We Irish have empathy, the English are two bit money grubbing hypocrites addicted to sucking cock for a profit.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Indeed, although Im sure you mean the republic.


Ireland is fast becoming Europe’s nastiest nation

Its image is changing fast thanks to its cheap shots against countries like Israel, Britain and Taiwan

Led by a half bobblehead homo, it’s no wonder the world kneecapping champions love to suck terrorist cock.

Christ Tax, are you alright? Ruthie is an 80 year old biddy who hasn’t lived in Ireland since the mid 60s and has been sucking Tory cock ever since. She’s an honorary Brit for fuck’s sake.

Israelis are now world renown for being cvunts and since Brexit the English are the joke of Europe.

Britain and pretty much the rest of the western world recognises the One China Policy and still does not recognise Taiwan diplomatically.

Poor old Ruthie, senility beckons.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

^^Surely your comments are better addressed to Gestapo Snubbie.

Anyway, we Irish have always supported Palestine in its fight for freedom and have nothing but admiration for HAMAS, PLO, and all the other brave fighters who’ve sacrificed their lives in the struggle against the Israeli tyrant and their continuing invasion of Palestine.

We know what it is like to have a divided country and one that suffered the jackboot oppression of a vicious and loathsome invader for over 400 years.

We Irish have empathy, the English are two bit money grubbing hypocrites addicted to sucking cock for a profit.

But you loved living there and making a packet working for the government?

Originally Posted by hallelujah

But you loved living there and making a packet working for the government?

Indeed, but since then the world has changed, Brexit has destroyed my Britain and the succession of Brexitory governments has done nothing but represent the interests of the corrupt, the stupid and the ignorant.

Fuck ‘em.

Israelis are now world renown for being cvunts and since Brexit the English are the joke of Europe.

Israel is a fine democracy, fighting neanderthal savages in an effort to survive. Hamstrung from completely flattening gaza and killing every male that resides there by the woke oppresor/oppressed narrative so prevalent these days among the short sighted leaders looking to secure votes is a hindrance no doubt, but common sense will soon prevail, just as it is doing with net zero and its unaffordable costs, and the israelis will triumph over the palestinian freedom fighters, err i mean rapists and pond life.

And I rather think germany is europes laughing stock at the moment.

The Israeli democracy is no more, the corrupt fraudster Nettyahoo has killed it but their people remain the most graceless, rude, ignorant and aggressive folk on the planet which probably explains why they’re universally despised by most who come up against the fuckers. The British commanders within the U.N. forces generally have a poor opinion of their military qualities which as we have seen is heavily influenced by their Russian Jew dominated high command which favours total destruction of civilian areas as a battlefield strategy.

Germany the laughing stock of Europe?

Yeah, sure, Tax. The country has the fourth largest GDP on the planet , $5.3 trillion US, ( UK $3.5 trillion ) and has a transport and education system the envy of the free world. Britain is essentially bankrupt now, the local authorities are all broke, schools are crumbling, teachers are leaving and subjects not covered.

We could go on but what’s the point, you can’t accept anything other than the Torygraph soma which, frankly, is strictly for addled loons and fuckwits.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Anyway, we Irish have always supported Palestine since the treacherous mussies gave us arms and money in return for doing so

FTFY.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Indeed, but since then the world has changed, Brexit has destroyed my Britain

"We Irish" calls it "My Britain".

What a cock.

The concept of a nationalist Northern Irish citizen expressing a view of his country is clearly beyond your comprehension.

’ Arry, you silly ghastly wee estuarine eejit.

You're just an uppity pikey with aspirations innit.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

There seems to be quite a difference of opinion regarding who is in the right.

That's because they're both wrong.