Thread: Hamas Attack, breakout from Gaza many rockets fired

Originally Posted by helge

I see a people who are cleansing land of another people; have done it for many years and will continue to do so with support of the west.

This.

There's one thing for sure, Netanyahu needs a distraction to help him in the polls and he'll squeeze every drop out of this. Politicians love a good war.

Originally Posted by david44

London last night
London: People, With Palestine Flags, Celebrate Hamas''' Attack On Israel | Video | World News, Times Now

Maybe Snakeeyes will be en route to Gaza as we speak.

Originally Posted by david44

Surely you understand the modern state of Israel was created by Zionists.

Surely

Originally Posted by david44

For the survivors of the holocaust the third Reich experience led to the desire for their own place at any price after the Huns had been so beastly.

Surely you understand that Zionisme was active many years before WW2

Originally Posted by david44

I cannot disagree I am unable to influence events but surely without hope what do we have left?
I do not anticipate peace in ME until religion ends it is plagued with it.

Fuck all to do with religion, and everything to do with the annexation of a country by an invader.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

There's one thing for sure, Netanyahu needs a distraction to help him in the polls and he'll squeeze every drop out of this. Politicians love a good war.

Yes

Originally Posted by helge

Surely you understand that Zionisme was active many years before WW2

Need you ask really?, I ma quite happy to be teased or derided and I may not be as well educated as you but am well aware of the 19th century origins and the Basel conference.

Despite fading eyesight I can recall learning Herzl and the inter war settlers, in the era when non existent mandate had PALESTINE STAMPS

In my best Poster thread there are images of the Palestine Line ships.



I won't nitpick on your spelling, as non native speaker that would be ungracious.

I am am pretty ignorant about Danish collaboration under The Nazis and the current Hamas structure but I think I could write a chapter on pre war Zionism and how many liberal Jews including in Israel abhor its inherent its exclusivity, arrogance, racism.

Many Israelis were demonstrating against Benji including serving IDF members until September so this unity appeal is timely.

On 3 September 2023, Youth Against Dictatorship released an open letter signed by 230 Israeli high schoolers in Tel Aviv, who collectively refused to serve in the IDF, citing their opposition to the judicial reforms and a refusal to serve Israeli settlements.

Makes you wonder if normally excellent Shin Beit were really unaware of such large movements on the Gaza fence?
Sure they could cut wires and tunnel and odd paraglider but without any up to date knowledge Israel had some of the finest drones, embedded spies and contintelpro cyber capability .

Originally Posted by david44

Need you ask really?

You started with the 'surely' thing

Originally Posted by david44

Herzl

Yes

We started out in this little sideshow with your blame on religion as the main reason for the disaster.

I'd agree on it being the main ..excuse.

Herzl was secular.

Surely you know that

Originally Posted by david44

I won't nitpick on your spelling, as non native speaker that would be ungracious.

You can point them out or try to understand. Either works for me.

Much to old to learn and english isn't that easy.

I have noticed that natives struggle too

Originally Posted by david44

Many Israelis were demonstrating against Benji including serving IDF members until September so this unity appeal is timely.

There are many moderate and probably nice people there too, which is why I won't take the BSnub approach, and demand the place turned in to ....glass

Originally Posted by david44

Makes you wonder if normally excellent Shin Beit were really unaware of such large movements on the Gaza fence?

Hard to believe, isn't it ?

Originally Posted by david44

I could write a chapter on pre war Zionism and how many liberal Jews including in Israel abhor its inherent its exclusivity, arrogance, racism.

Zionism(e) comes in many shapes and colours

I can't name them all, but 10-20 different directions would be a guess

American Christian Zionism(e) is the worst in my opinion

By the way:

We have had these "debates" before.

Was it PatsyCat or Natalie 8, who was very passionate about all things Israel ?

Ph would also participate

Originally Posted by helge

American Christian Zionism(e) is the worst in my opinion

Jesus fucking christ you are so predictable. It is almost as if you are reading from a script, eh vatnik?

Originally Posted by bsnub

It is almost as if you are reading from a script, eh vatnik?

I am

It's called ....experience

Originally Posted by helge

It's called ....experience

Experience in regurgitating nonsense and propaganda.

OK, Snub

Originally Posted by Troy

The usual overkill retalliation from Israel is to be expected. It doesn't help, just makes things worse and so the cycle continues.

I would think that is the plan. Attack by Hamas, massive retaliation by Israel mainly against poor Palestinian bastards while the big bosses sit a comfortable distance away and start promoting the Palestinians as the "victims" of Israeli violence. Rinse and repeat.....

Originally Posted by Norton

Israel manufactures and launches some of the best spy satellites in the world. The nonsense being spouted by mainstream news that it was a "major intel failure" is bs. They knew!

But schtum Benji needs a win

Originally Posted by Norton

The nonsense being spouted by mainstream news that it was a "major intel failure" is bs. They knew!

Using your theory, I would guess that Hamas must be an asset of the Israeli government, they coordinated this together.

Originally Posted by Norton

They knew!

They didn't know. It will be found out that there is an extensive tunnel network under Gaza, and most of Hamas moves underground.

Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia
Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels - Wikipedia





Pretty remarkable that you and others here would not be aware of this.

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They didn't know.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Pretty remarkable that you and others here would not be aware of this.

Actualy I did know it. So did the Isreali's. What's remarkable Snubs is you refuse to accept the possibility someone other than yourself might actualy have a point.

You don't fire rockets and bulldoze barriers from a tunnel.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The Israelis have had it coming to them. Years of brutality under the fascist Nettyyahoo and his West Bank encroachers has provoked the Palestinians beyond endurance, a people they have treated as untermemsch and to be corralled as if they were mere cattle. Arbitrary beatings up, extra judicial murder, home invasions and destruction, yep, the IDF are a wondrous organisation. They certainly learned a lot from their history.

were you cheering on the ira as well when they were planting their bombs in london.

the palestinians are being used as pawns in a game played by the jew hating regime in iran. hamas and hezbollah are their proxies. had the ragheads of gaza negotiated sensibly then they too would have been a rich thriving state like israel by now, but they are pariahs, no muslim state has ever helped them, other than with arms and muscle, they are hated even by their neighbours the egyptians. the population are kept in abject poverty by hamas and hezbollah in oder to foment their hatred. i have been to gaza, have you? i thought not. they have never ever wanted a peaceful settlement because they are murderous pigs. end off.

sometimes you have no idea what you are talking about. this is ALL about religion you blinkered ex pen pushing regulation obeying thoughtless lickspittle of a civil servant.

stick to what you know best, slagging off the thais and leave the big international stories alone.

Originally Posted by Norton

The nonsense being spouted by mainstream news that it was a "major intel failure" is bs. They knew!

As per my reply #27. The Yids are playing us for idiots. As per usual.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Fuck all to do with religion

Mussies simply don't tolerate any other religion in their territories or as neighbours, its central to them to either convert or kill any heathens - this is now their manta since every mussie no mark with a phone and internet connection has a voice.

Solidarity, 7/10/2023

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