Thread: Hanoi Jane

Originally Posted by Humbert

Hey Booners, I bet you think William Calley should have won the Congressional Medal of Honor instead of just being pardoned for mass murder.

Tell us about the Village Scouts there, Bert?

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Extreme and dreamy paranoia pass on from Uncle Sugar?

Tell that to my best bud Max and his family who fled Hungary with barely the clothes on their backs in 1956.

Fear, relief but no dreamy paranoia.

No Czech acquaintances so can't personally say those who fled in 1968 were infected with extreme dreamy paranoia. Could be though.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Humbert

Hey Booners, I bet you think William Calley should have won the Congressional Medal of Honor instead of just being pardoned for mass murder.

Tell us about the Village Scouts there, Bert?

The mind numbing and even slightly humorous irony of this whole escapade will be missed....

A very interesting and intense period of contemporary Thai history.
There were at least 5-6 Village Scout-like organisations plying there ultra right-wing shenanigans throughout the beloved land - under royal doctrine [which shouldn't surprise], from 1966/67 well into the late seventies...

The ironic situation laid to the supposed Commie hunts throughout this period was invented and dictated under a rule of heavy suppressive military dictatorship of the time.....decades before and years to come.

Any political movement that was deemed contrary to the ruling elite were cast as subversives, traitors, disloyal, Commies, whatever.

Still reflective of today's [this version] Junta rule....

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'ultra-right wing shenanigans'?

Contemporary Thai History being re-written again, is it? That period you mention from the middle 60's onward to the end of the Viet Nam War was an era when the Domino Theory had the most basis in fact. Commie-leaning students from Thammasat and Chula encouraging the Phatet Lao & NVA to "come on down".

By all rights, Royal Doctrine was correct in the manner in which the 'mischief' was dealt with.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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'ultra-right wing shenanigans'?

Contemporary Thai History being re-written again, is it? That period you mention from the middle 60's onward to the end of the Viet Nam War was an era when the Domino Theory had the most basis in fact. Commie-leaning students from Thammasat and Chula encouraging the Phatet Lao & NVA to "come on down".

By all rights, Royal Doctrine was correct in the manner in which the 'mischief' was dealt with.

Booners, well known that the Thai establishment of the last 60 years was/is clearly more right than Mussolini's Italy - hence the fusion of military [blessed by the influential ones] dictatorships from the 1940s......not much breaks in between.

Really not much difference in Commie loons as there is Fascist loons [which Thailand has enjoyed for decades].

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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'ultra-right wing shenanigans'?

Contemporary Thai History being re-written again, is it? That period you mention from the middle 60's onward to the end of the Viet Nam War was an era when the Domino Theory had the most basis in fact. Commie-leaning students from Thammasat and Chula encouraging the Phatet Lao & NVA to "come on down".

By all rights, Royal Doctrine was correct in the manner in which the 'mischief' was dealt with.

Booners, well known that the Thai establishment of the last 60 years was/is clearly more right than Mussolini's Italy - hence the fusion of military [blessed by the influential ones] dictatorships from the 1940s......not much breaks in between.

Really not much difference in Commie loons as there is Fascist loons [which Thailand has enjoyed for decades].

Well, where would you rather live - Laos/Viet Nam or LOS?

Honest answer now

This next piece will make you hunk your dinner:

"CNN’s Wolf Blitzer and State Department Acting Spokesperson Marie Harf lavished praise on Jane Fonda, while Blitzer also expressed his joy to be hanging out with Harf in an interview broadcast during CNN’s coverage of Saturday’s White House Correspondents Association Dinner.

CNN Senior Political Correspondent Brianna Keilar told Blitzer, “you’ve really outdone yourselves with your guests this year,” to which he said, “it doesn’t get any better than Jane Fonda…can you believe that i’m here with Jane Fonda? And Marie Harf, Acting Spokesperson for the US State Department. How cool is that?”

Harf added, “I was looking forward to meeting Jane Fonda, so that was really a dream come true…we’ve already done selfies in the car.”

Blitzer, Harf: We're Happy We're Hanging Out With Jane Fonda - Breitbart

How cool is that?

She never had an original thought in her shallow life; to credit her with even the most basic understanding of the Vietnam conflict is ludicrous.

Another rich, vapid, spoiled actress used as a dupe.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

... to credit her with even the most basic understanding of the Vietnam conflict is ludicrous.

Wondering whether anyone will ever get a understanding of the Vietnam conflict.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

... to credit her with even the most basic understanding of the Vietnam conflict is ludicrous.

Wondering whether anyone will ever get a understanding of the Vietnam conflict.

Certainly not the ones who romantically supported the American occupation of SE Asia.
Guarantee they haven't a clue - of yesteryear's activities or today's "interventions".

^^It's been 46 years and 8 days since I got on a plane and realized I had survived it.

Certainly didn't understand it then; don't know that I'm much closer now.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

It's been 46 years and 8 days since I got on a plane and realized I had survived it.

Certainly didn't understand it then; don't know that I'm much closer now.

Hmm, I was ~2 when Davis was finishing up his time in Viet Nam.

That feels odd to think about but I don't know why, there's no reason it should.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

... to credit her with even the most basic understanding of the Vietnam conflict is ludicrous.

Wondering whether anyone will ever get a understanding of the Vietnam conflict.

Dominoes anyone?

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^^It's been 46 years and 8 days since I got on a plane and realized I had survived it.

Certainly didn't understand it then; don't know that I'm much closer now.

Davis, I skipped the pleasure of a SE Asia vacation in Vietnam back in the 60s by joining the Marine Reserves. There are times I wished I had gone to gain more perspective on the war, but it appears you gained nothing. I did have to spend the war years in the States and never could figure out why we were in Vietnam. Yes, there were the political explanations, but they were easy to see through even though I was in my 20s.

Many books and documentaries have followed the war, but never did anyone truly explain our presense in Vietnam. The Domino Theory was all BS and it would have been interesting to see what might have happened if the US had never entered the conflict. Shades of, Iraq, Afghanistan and many others with the latest being Yemen.

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Never heard of the Pathet Lao incursions northern Thailand?

Domino theory was not BS. That's why the Queen formed the Village Scouts.

Boon, it was BS with regard to the US. Politicians claimed that after the communists took over Vietnam, they would then take over all countries leading to the US. Utter noncense. Ever hear of the Roman Empire and how they wanted to take over the world? To use this as an excuse to enter a civil war thousands of miles away is idiotic. Of course the politicians are all idiots, so maybe it made perfect sense to them.

The US had no right to go into Vietnam as they have had no right to enter other countries in conflict. If America were attacked, as in WWII, I would agree with going to war but that has not really happened since Pearl Harbor. The closest was on 9/11 and the US even got that wrong.

It is all speculation now, of course, but I think America would have been much better off by taking care of th US citizens and spending all the money on infrastructure. I seriously doubt America ever had a communist threat of invasion from the Domino Theory.

Well, the King of Thailand and his lovely Queen were quite well pleased that the US Military came in and secured bases here. The local home-grown commies who attended Chula and Thammasat & were supporting the Pathet Lao had to flee for their lives - literally.

We agree that America didn't have a cause for alarm but Thailand certainly did.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

We agree that America didn't have a cause for alarm but Thailand certainly did.

Yeh, and look how it's turned out.
Might grow up later, I suppose. Must.
But I don't think Jane could help here.
She's not a trained gunner, and could not protect Citizens from the state.
Must say, she's lookin' gewd fer her age though.
Does being an Idealist help keep you young?
Or help you marry a billionaire? Or is it just Tits?
Idealistic Tits? I always liked Barbarella.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, the King of Thailand and his lovely Queen were quite well pleased that the US Military came in and secured bases here. The local home-grown commies who attended Chula and Thammasat & were supporting the Pathet Lao had to flee for their lives - literally.

We agree that America didn't have a cause for alarm but Thailand certainly did.

I would agree with you there Boon.

Also agree with Sabang about Barbarella. She had a great body then which could be chalked up to genetics. She has worked on that figure over the years which does not hurt.

Holy cow guys, it's ancient history. Some sex-siren actress visited Nth Vietnam, as part of the burgeoning anti-war movement, in 1972. The war was already lost. Most people weren't even born then. Big deal- I mean, are you the sort of country that would elect a B-movie actor as President? Whoops

No, I don't agree with it- notwithstanding her views, which were legitimate. No, I really don't care. Kudos to the US for it's reaction- namely, nothing. Yes, she has since expressed regret. Yawwwn.

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Time for your nap old man.

This thread has legs and so long as Hanoi Jane keeps opening her gob and strutting around in public telling everyone how sorry she is for supporting the NVA, there will always be a fountainhead of negative response from Vets.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

This thread has legs

No, it doesn't. Not even ancient legs with a walking cane. yawwn.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Never heard of the Pathet Lao incursions northern Thailand?

Domino theory was not BS. That's why the Queen formed the Village Scouts.

Always beware of the invented boogieman.