Thread: France rioting, arson and protest

Originally Posted by Troy

Nope, he wad no previous criminal record. There was no excuse for shooting him, none whatsoever.

he apparently had no driving licence and was driving a car without insurance. a valid reason to be stopped by the police but i never said the shooting was justified.

i said he was stupid to provoke the police, police that are well known to have racist tendencies towards an underclass and are quick to resort to violence.

but you seem in some way to be justifying the theft, violence and destruction that followed, almost as if "it serves france right"


cyrille

taxpayer

..... and what do you know about taxpayers you gloating oleaginous avaricious snide little hypocrite

Originally Posted by taxexile

the ones who hate christians, jews, atheists, gays and everything about western culture

Some probably hate their life and the dire forecasts ahead.


Others are probably doing an Arab Life Matter with the usual vandalism hangarounds

we are living in insane times.

the 17 year old lad was supposedly just a kid and incapable of knowing what he is doing, yet 12 year olds are deemed cognisant enough to get signed up for sex change surgery.

had it been a white lad in the car, there would be some outrage, mostly from the family but the general consensus would have been he had it coming, but when its a member of a minority involved, its all systems go for an all you can nick shopping spree with a large portion of ultra violence on the side.

the world has truly gone mad.

It will get to the point where enough is enough with these toerags. I for one hope I am still alive to see this day. One less little shit in the world, fuck them all.

Rioters broke into VW dealership. Started driving brand new cars off the lot

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Originally Posted by taxexile

we are living in insane times.

Always have bro. Same, same but different.

In a speech in Cape Town in June 1966, Kennedy said:
There is a Chinese curse which says 'May he live in interesting times.' Like it or not we live in interesting times.

Collection for French policeman dwarfs rival fund for teenager he shot dead
Officer's Gofundme appeal has raised €1m while the teenagers' lags behind at €200,000

By
Vivian Song
3 July 2023 • 2:05pm

Nahel's family are 'heartbroken' over the donations

A collection for a French policeman who provoked nationwide riots by shooting a teenager dead topped €1 million on Monday, dwarfing donations to the victim’s family.

More than 40,000 people have pledged money to the online appeal set up by a far-Right media commentator on the Gofundme.com website.

It easily outstripped the €200,000 gathered for the family of the dead 17-year-old, Nahel, who was of north African origin.

Nahel’s grandmother said she was “heartbroken” by the support shown for the policeman.

“He took the life of my grandson. This man must pay, the same as everyone,” she told the BFM channel on Sunday. “I have confidence in the justice system. I believe in justice.”

It comes amid signs French citizens are fighting back against rioters as the protests that have rocked the country appear to be subsiding after days of violent unrest.


Mothers and teachers have formed vigilante groups to defend French cities against rioters.

Meanwhile, French mayors urged the public and elected officials on Monday to hold rallies outside town halls to oppose the protests, which saw rioters loot shops, torch cars and attack public buildings.

In a statement, an association of the country’s mayors said that Republican symbols were the target of “extreme violence” everywhere in France and called for a “mobilisation of citizens” for a return to order.

Large crowds gathered from noon outside town halls in Chambéry, Cannes, Rennes, and the Paris suburb of L’Haÿ-les-Roses, where rioters ploughed a car into the mayor’s home and set it on fire overnight on Saturday.

In some areas, groups had already taken matters into their own hands in a bid to end the turmoil, which has seen tens of thousands of police and gendarmes deployed nightly to towns and cities throughout the country.

In the Paris suburb of Neuilly-sur-Marne, a group of mothers has reportedly gathered every evening since the protests began to patrol the area’s streets and dissuade people from rioting.


“We’re taking our responsibility to come and see the kids and to stop them from destroying things,” one mother from the group, Solidarity of African Women, is heard saying in a video posted online by the commune’s Deputy Mayor of Health, Djénéba Diaby.

“We spoke to them, and they understood,” she added.

Elsewhere, in northeastern city of Metz, a 20-strong group of women reportedly kept vigil over their childrens’ primary school as riots ensued nearby.

“The thugs, young people aged 13 to 17, were all hooded but they did not touch us,” one of the mothers involved told Le Parisien newspaper.

There were also reports of vigilante groups operating in the western city of Lorient, where a band of two dozen young men identifying themselves as “anti-rioters” were rounding up protesters and handing them over to the police.

‘Do not riot’
Local newspaper Ouest-France reported the group had extinguished fires and stopped an attack on a local hair salon which saw the shop’s windows smashed by three rioters.

Relatives of Nahel, who was of Algerian origin, had called for calm on Sunday, accusing the rioters of using his death as a “pretext” to cause havoc.

“Stop and do not riot,” Nahel’s grandmother, Nadia, told French news channel BFM TV in a telephone interview.

“I tell the people who are rioting this: Do not smash windows, attack schools or buses. Stop! It’s mothers who take buses, it’s mothers who walk outside,” she added. “Nahel is dead, that’s all there is.”

There were signs on Sunday evening of an easing of the crisis, with officers making 157 arrests nationwide compared to more than 700 the night before.

Daily Telegraph

..... and no! ..... i wont be contributing to either of the 2 funds.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Nahel's family are 'heartbroken' over the donations

Let them eat cake!

How an early morning drive led to a death that would tear France apart


“He’s a madman. He shot me,” Nahel Merzouk gasped as he sat crumpled in the driver’s seat of the crashed Mercedes, with a police bullet in his chest.

The 17-year-old was dying, surrounded by peak traffic at 8.19am on a Tuesday. Hours earlier he had kissed his mother Mounia and told her “I love you, Mum” before she went to work.

One of his passengers, Fouad, 17, panicked and fled into the hard-bitten streets of the Parisian suburb of Nanterre.

But another passenger, a 14-year-old called Adam, was in the back seat and heard his friend’s last whispered words.

Less than 25 minutes earlier, a series of events began that would lead to Nahel’s death and six days of rioting that would shake France and force it to confront its relationship with race.

The killing of Nahel, who was of Algerian-Moroccan descent, sparked unrest on a scale not seen since 2005, when a state of emergency was introduced as France grappled with the fallout from the deaths of two teenagers who were electrocuted at a power sub-station while fleeing police in another Paris suburb.

Nahel Merzouk
Nahel Merzouk was a takeaway delivery driver and had enrolled at college to train to be an electrician
According to French prosecutors, the latest incident began when two motorcycle officers spotted the bright yellow Mercedes, fitted with a Polish number plate, speeding in the bus lane of Nanterre’s Boulevard Jacques-Germain-Soufflot.

They put on their sirens and ordered Nahel, who was driving without a licence, to pull over. But when he ran a red light in an attempt to lose the officers, a chase began.

The Mercedes raced over a pedestrian crossing, missing a pedestrian and cyclist, before getting stuck in a traffic jam on the Boulevard de la Défense.

The officers dismounted, moved to the left of the vehicle and drew their guns. Aiming the pistols at Nahel, they ordered him to turn off the ignition.

When the car lurched forward, one officer, identified as Florian M, 38, shot Nahel once, hitting him in the chest. The same officer then administered first aid at the scene, but Nahel’s death would be pronounced shortly after, at 9.15 am.


But Adam, the back-seat passenger, tells a markedly different story. His version of events is backed by Fouad, 17, the passenger who had initially fled the scene.

According to Adam, the officers reached into the car and struck Nahel’s head repeatedly with the butts of their guns.

One officer warned the teenager he would “put a bullet” in his head if he didn’t turn off the engine, he has alleged.

As he tried to protect himself from the blows, Nahel’s foot came off the automatic car’s brake pedal.

Adam claims that when the car moved forward, he heard an officer say “Shoot him”. Nahel was shot at point-blank range.

Fouad’s lawyer said the teen’s family would be filing a complaint with the public prosecutor’s office against the officer who killed Nahel for “wilful violence”.

Accusations of police brutality are nothing new or surprising in the tough suburbs of the capital.

Neither were reports that Nahel, who was raised by his mother and never knew his father, had previous brushes with the law.


A takeaway delivery driver, who had enrolled at college to train to be an electrician, he had been the subject of five police checks since 2021 for refusing to comply with an order to stop.

Just over a week before his death, he was placed in detention for refusing to comply and was due before a juvenile court in September.

Most of the trouble he got into involved cars: driving without a licence or insurance and using false number plates.

But Nahel had never been convicted, said family lawyer Jennifer Cambla, and had no criminal record.

“I think in this kind of suburb it’s pretty rare that a young person hasn’t been stopped by police or hasn’t been in custody,” Ms Cambla said of the boy well-loved in Nanterre and who played rugby.

“For me, Nahel was the typical example of the neighbourhood kid, out of school, sometimes borderline but not a highwayman, and who had the will to get out of it,” said Jeff Puech, the president of Ovale Citizen, a community rugby association.

Seven days after Nahel’s death, Emmanuel Macron attempted to regain the initiative by suggesting fines for parents who fail to prevent minors from looting and vandalism after it emerged 1,200 arrests during the riots were of people under the age of 18.

A week after Nahel’s death there have been a total of 3,354 arrests, according to the latest figures. Officer Florian M has also been arrested and faces charges of voluntary homicide.

But no arrests would have been made without that fatal first encounter between Nahel, a minor, and police, on the streets of Nanterre on the morning of Tuesday June 27.

How an early morning drive led to a death that would tear France apart

silly fucker, certainly not the angel his mother made him out to be but with previous and being known to the police he brought it all on himself when he encountered those rogue police and thought he could outwit them.

and that's why letting teenage scrotes off after first offences, however minor, with mere slaps on the wrists is never a good idea.

Multiculturalism IMO has never worked. When races are too ethnically and culturally different it doesn't take much before problems arise. Western governments have allowed migrants and refugees to flood in from every corner of the globe many with totally different values, cultures and expectations to western countries thinking all will be well.
Successive Governments know that continuous growth in capitalist societies is unsustainable and new ways must be found to make society more equitable and knowing recession is electoral poison. They have taken the lazy and safest way out by using migrants to increase GDP.
Australia's record economic growth apart from being the worlds quarry has been fueled by massive migration numbers in relation to the size of the population. The result is dwindling services choked roads and some of the most expensive housing in the world, absolutely ridiculous in a country with one of the lowest numbers of people per hectare in the developed world.
France along with the UK are classic examples of many countries of what could go wrong. Hungary and Poland are criticised for their stance on migration but are two of a very few countries that have been spared terror attacks as well as many other problems fueled by mass migration of ethnically and religiously different cultures. In my experience of western style culture the most unstable countries/areas contain high numbers of these migrants.
I wish the world was better than that but after years of traveling and living on most continents I see it how it is, not how I wish it to be.
In Australia many years ago there was what was dubbed "the Cronulla riots" in Sydney. Those issues in the name of political correctness were never addressed and put down to white supremacists and general racism against middle eastern migrants. Whilst no doubt there was an element of that there were many issues with the mostly lebanese population, from organised crime to roaming gangs that caused problems within the community that have never been addressed and probably never will due to this destructive politically correct culture.
Speaking of Lebanon it was once considered the Paris of the east until it got flooded by islamic refugees and migrants. Now sadly, it once again matches Paris and there is again a common denominator.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Speaking of Lebanon it was once considered the Paris of the east

Beirut ?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Multiculturalism IMO has never worked. When races are too ethnically and culturally different it doesn't take much before problems arise.

The Abos might agree

Apart from that "race" doesn't have to be the problem multicultural wise

Macron has aired thoughts about closing social media in future ....riots.

(my guess is that he will be the one defining when it is a ..."riot".)

Like in Iran, China and North Korea.

He is such a little prick

Originally Posted by helge

Macron has aired thoughts about closing social media in future ....riots.

(my guess is that he will be the one defining when it is a ..."riot".)

Like in Iran, China and North Korea.

He is such a little prick

That’s a big comparison to be making. Are you saying the unrest of the last week are not riotous behaviour?

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Are you saying the unrest of the last week are not riotous behaviour?

It is

Did you not understand my post ?

I understand your little dig at Macron just fine.

If they are riots no need to use ellipses or quotation marks to indicate your incredulity at the word riot.

Originally Posted by helge

(my guess is that he will be the one defining when it is a ..."riot".)

Let me help you then:

Macron can call any strike or demonstration, that doesn't fit his agenda a "riot", if he pleases, and he wants a tool, which gives him the right to close down social media in case of riots.

You don't have to agree with my posts, but a grain of will to understand, would be welcome.

Originally Posted by helge

Let me help you then:

Macron can call any strike or demonstration, that doesn't fit his agenda a "riot", if he pleases, and he wants a tool, which gives him the right to close down social media in case of riots.

You don't have to agree with my posts, but a grain of will to understand, would be welcome.

Spoken like a true card-bearing, west-hating communist.

In the middle of the current riots, what evidence do you have that Macron is focused on future possible strikes or demonstrations instead of concern with the current situation?

Originally Posted by DrWilly

what evidence do you have that Macron is focused on future possible strikes or demonstrations instead of concern with the current situation?

"I'm all for free speech, but..."

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Spoken like a true card-bearing, west-hating communist.

Way to deal with an opposing view.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Spoken like a true card-bearing, west-hating communist.

Fisher Price. My first politics.