Thread: The British Prime Minister - for as long as there is a Great Britain

Liz is toast! Andrew Marr telling it how it is...

Jeremy Hunt, more popularly known as The Cuvnt, spent six long years at the Dept of Health during which he managed to gain the dubious distinction of earning the universal detestation of the NHS’s entire staff.

He is indeed a cvunt and a devious fucker who is not above a bit of jiggery-pokery in trousering the old filthy luchre.

A mate of his who also contributed thousands to the Tory party coffers gave him a nice discount on some development properties in a marina on the South coast which he rented out earning a nice bunce but neglected to enter it in the Commons Register of Financial Interests. He claimed to have forgotten it.

He is a bloodless, soulless Tory shit who is more than likely capable of taxing the poor to spare the rich.

He has no real friends and is married to a Chink.

At least Italy's position as Europe's political joke has passed onto the UK.

What an utter farce. Surely there are qualified people that can do a better job. Surely.

Originally Posted by panama hat

At least Italy's position as Europe's political joke has passed onto the UK.

What an utter farce. Surely there are qualified people that can do a better job. Surely.

It used to be a poisoned chalice. Now it’s a direct IV poison.

'sacking has bought her a few weeks' says...kamikwaze.

'I'm going nowhere' says...also kamikwaze, before flying from the US to London on the first flight the following day, to be told he'd been sacked.

What an absolute shambles.

Next please

Truss premiership ‘hanging by thread’ after Kwarteng sacking and latest U-turn

Liz Truss is desperately clinging to her premiership after she sacked her chancellor and ripped up the mini-budget but failed to calm the financial markets or furious Conservative MPs.


In a humiliating reversal, the prime minister backed down on plans to scrap an £18bn rise in corporation tax and replaced Kwasi Kwarteng as chancellor with Jeremy Hunt.


She said staying in her position as prime minister would help to “reassure the markets of our financial discipline”, but the cost of government borrowing rose and the pound fell following her press conference announcing the changes.


Senior Conservative MPs are plotting how to remove her from office, with some mulling whether to publicly call for her to resign in the coming days. One former cabinet minister said they thought it was “50/50 whether she will make it till Christmas”, adding: “If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of her now then I would, but the problem is the mechanism.”


Some Tory MPs thought the appointment of Hunt, a Tory centrist who has twice failed to win the leadership, could buy Truss some time, potentially as long as the further fiscal event on 31 October. In a sign that the former foreign secretary may be a powerful figure, one of his allies among Tory MPs, Steve Brine, told the BBC that people could regard “Truss as the chairman and Hunt as the chief executive” of the government.


Others said they regarded Truss as “finished” and it was a matter of time before she was ousted, particularly if there were a succession of further polls showing the Tories more than 30 points behind Labour – a situation that would lead to a landslide win for the opposition.


The former Tory leader William Hague told Channel 4 News it had been a “catastrophic episode” and while he was still hoping Truss could recover, it would be honest to say her premiership “hangs by a thread”.

more Truss premiership ‘hanging by thread’ after Kwarteng sacking and latest U-turn | Conservatives | The Guardian

even my grand daughter could have foreseen the market turmoil that idiot was about to unleash with his "mini-budget", now the reality...

Jeremy Hunt says taxes will rise and ‘difficult’ cuts are needed after mini-Budget ‘mistakes’-

Liz Truss’s new chancellor Jeremy Hunt has warned of “difficult”spending cuts after he admitted that “mistakes” were made in last month’s mini-Budget.

In a move that risks inflaming the Tory right, he also suggested there would be tax rises ahead as he works to balance the Treasury books.

He twice said that "some taxes will go up" in his first interview in the post, just hours after he was given the job.

And he suggested the planned 1p cut to income tax could be dumped. He “very much” hoped the government could keep the measure, he said, but would not make a decision before he had looked at everything in the round.He also appeared to junk Ms Truss’s pledge to increase defence spending to 3 per cent, saying that would depend on the state of the economy.

Mr Hunt became chancellor after Ms Truss brutally sacked her first choice, Kwasi Kwarteng in a bid to save her flailing premiership.

The prime minister also announced a U-turn on her flagship plans to cut the rate of corporation tax.

more https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-hunt-chancellor-cuts-taxes-b2203330.html

It was beyond belief that tory members fell for Truss.

I've given up on trying to fathom the thought process of these people.

What a Trussterfvck.

Summary from the Beeb interview with Hunt

If you're just joining us, here's a recap of what new Chancellor Jeremy Hunt told the BBC this morning.


Hunt admitted "mistakes" had been made with the government's mini-budget, which was unveiled on 23 September

He said one error was to abolish the top rate of income tax for the highest earners - which is one policy the government has now reversed

Hunt also said it was a mistake to "fly blind" and publish the mini-budget without also providing independent reassurance from the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) that "the sums add up"

Speaking of "difficult decisions" ahead, he said some taxes would now go up, and that others would "not be cut as quickly as people want"

And, he said, "spending will not rise by as much as people would like"

Furthermore, the chancellor said, "all government departments are going to have to find more efficiencies than they were planning to"

Hunt, who is less than 24 hours into his job, declined to give details of his plans, but said he had been given a clean slate to rework the mini-budget

He stood by Prime Minister Liz Truss's plans for the economy, saying these were "absolutely right"

He denied future moves by the government would represent another era of austerity, and said his team of "compassionate Conservatives" would keep in mind the most vulnerable in society

Originally Posted by malmomike77

He stood by Prime Minister Liz Truss's plans for the economy, saying these were "absolutely right"

Absolutely right to win the leadership contest maybe, but all the same we are going to change her plans to something realistic and therefore scrap all the promises she made.

Liz Truss should resign and find a stone to hide under.

^ Labour pushing for an election which won't happen but more likely yet another Leadership change

Yeah, leave them to continue demonstrating their rank incompetence.

It obviously takes a sledgehammer to get the message through.

Fvckwitz.

Originally Posted by cyrille

It was beyond belief that tory members fell for Truss.

I've given up on trying to fathom the thought process of these people.

What a Trussterfvck.

No doubt, after the Tory faithful read your words of wisdom on this obscure Thai forum, they will backtrack and take on board the very thoughtful and very salient points from a dumb Brummie expat nobody.

Originally Posted by Iceman123

No doubt, after the Tory faithful read your words of wisdom on this obscure Thai forum, they will backtrack and take on board the very thoughtful and very salient points from a dumb Brummie expat nobody.

He doesn't quite understand how the internet works, leave him be.

Originally Posted by Troy

Liz Truss should resign and find a stone to hide under.

To be replaced by . . . Hunt? Still not a brilliant choice.

Originally Posted by cyrille

sacking has bought her a few weeks

Dead (wo)man walking!

Ms Truss reiterated her desire to crack down on solar power this week, saying she would stop farmers from “filling fields with paraphernalia like solar farms”.

Don’t let the door…….

weeks, possibly days. They have to move quickly if they want to reverse the polls and stand any chance in 2 years.

Senior Tories hold talks to discuss ousting Liz Truss to ‘rescue’ party

Senior Conservatives will this week hold talks on a “rescue mission” that would see the swift removal of Liz Truss as leader, after the new chancellor Jeremy Hunt dramatically tore up her economic package and signalled a new era of austerity.


A group of senior MPs will meet on Monday to discuss the prime minister’s future, with some wanting her to resign within days and others saying she is now “in office but not in control”. Some are threatening to publicly call on Truss to stand down after the implosion of her tax-cutting programme.


In a rearguard action to prop up the prime minister, her cabinet allies tonight warned MPs they would precipitate an election and ensure the Tories were “finished as a party” if they toppled a second leader in just a few months.


However, support for Truss is also evaporating inside the cabinet, with members keeping in close touch with her critics. “She is in the departure lounge now and she knows that,” said a former minister. “It is a case now of whether she takes part in the process and goes to some extent on her own terms, or whether she tries to resist and is forced out.”


Another MP said it “would be grotesque” to allow Truss to endure another appearance at prime minister’s questions in the Commons on Wednesday after a series of humiliating U-turns, the sacking of ally Kwasi Kwarteng and the abandonment of her economic prospectus.


Between 15 and 20 former ministers and other senior MPs have been invited to a “dinner of grown-ups”, convened by leading supporters of Rishi Sunak, to plan how and when to remove Truss and install Sunak and fellow leadership contender Penny Mordaunt as a unity pairing.


A source familiar with the conversations said: “They are just going to have to sit down and work things out. It now becomes a rescue mission for the Conservative party and the economy. That’s where we are.”

more: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/15/tories-talks-ousting-truss-rescue-party

Originally Posted by panama hat

To be replaced by . . . Hunt? Still not a brilliant choice.

It is clear you can't trust the people to decide on the Tory leader any more than you can trust the people to decide on Brexit. They simply don't know enough to make an informed decision.

Truss should have stepped down when she came second in the leadership vote amongst Tory MPs rather than have her moment of glory and allow the Tory membership to decide. She has been nothing bu an embarrassment since she became PM. An ignominious PM in a Government that has been a total failure ever since it forced Brexit over the line.

It doesn't matter who the leader is or which party is in Government, all routes lead to the same post Brexit disaster that some of us predicted and many TD members ridiculed and ignored.

Yesterday the joke was can Truss outlast the shelf life of a lettuce, how much more humiliation before she gets the message?


As an aside, excellent time for SA to visit the UK and watch the humiliation. I hope you enjoyed it!

knives are drawn

Tory donors turn on Liz Truss even as Jeremy Hunt rips up disastrous mini-Budget


‘Time is running out’ to remove the prime minister, says top Conservative donor. ‘The more we dig this hole the deeper it is going to be’

Conservative donors and business leaders are turning on Liz Truss even after the new chancellor ditched many of her key policies in a bid to save the government.


In his first full day in post, Jeremy Hunt admited there would be tax rises and spending cuts ahead as he urged Tory MPs not to oust her.


He also refused to say if he would keep Ms Truss’s flagship pledges to cut the basic rate of income tax and increase defence spending to 3 per cent of GDP.


Despite his bid to calm nerves, one of the Conservative Party’s most generous donors, John Griffin, said the prime minister was “out of her depth” and called for her to be replaced.


Lord Rose, the Tory peer and chairman of the Asda supermarket chain, described her as a “busted flush” and said the current situation was unsustainable.


Another major donor, Alexander Temerko, did not call for Ms Truss to go, but said: “I hope that the sense of self-preservation will force the government to cooperate with business to pursue a coordinated, socially responsible economic policy.”


In a highly unusual show of strength, which in turn highlighted the prime minister’s weakness, Mr Hunt admitted the government’s disastrous mini-Budget, which spooked the markets and saw the pound fall to its lowest level in 37 years, “went too far, too fast”.


He said the planned tax cut for the wealthiest and a decision not to publish Office of Budget Responsibility (OBR) calculations has been a mistake, and promised a clean slate.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-jeremy-hunt-donors-b2203571.html

Originally Posted by david44

Is she a red mole placed to ensure the glorious workers party win?

The reds under the bed ! Oh no! The other party will have the exact same social and economic policy as the cuckservative party. Why even have elections

Originally Posted by Backspin

The reds under the bed ! Oh no!

You simply didn't get it, did you . . .

I think in two weeks there will be proper windfall taxes on Oil,Gas and wind power. I would like to see the HS2 vanity project go in favour of Northern rail. He's got £40Bn to find...

indie:

Hunt refuses to rule out new windfall tax on energy firms, saying he is not against in principle, in further snub to Truss
Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrat leader, asks if Hunt will implement a genuine windfall tax.

Hunt replies:

I am not against the principle of taxing profits that are genuine windfalls.

But, in the energy industry, it is a very cyclical industry. There are businesses that have periods of feast and famine and you have to be very careful that you don’t tax companies in a way that drives away investment.

So we have said that nothing is off the table.

This is very different from what Liz Truss said when asked about a windfall tax on energy companies at her first PMQs. She said:

I am against a windfall tax. I believe it is the wrong thing to be putting companies off investing in the United Kingdom, just when we need to be growing the economy.

The implication from what Hunt told MPs was that his view on this policy, not Truss’s, is now determining government policy.

Jeremy Hunt refuses to rule out further windfall tax as Labour says people will pay ‘Tory mortgage premium’ for years – live | Politics | The Guardian