Thread: A United Ireland - Over to you Biden

Great news - at last America can take care of the situation, they've long bankrolled Sinn Fein terrorists well....I for one will be happy to see a united Ireland. Biden can shove his Iriish roots where the sun don't shine and take the NI Protocol with him.

In a seismic election shift in Northern Ireland, the pro-unity Sinn Fein is winning.

LONDON — Northern Ireland was created a century ago, in the wake of a nationalist uprising, to protect the rights of its predominantly Protestant, pro-British population. But on Friday, the largest Irish nationalist party, Sinn Fein, was on the cusp of being declared the territory’s largest party, a political watershed in a land long torn by sectarian violence.


With much of the vote in legislative elections counted on Friday evening, Sinn Fein was on track to win the most seats in the Northern Ireland Assembly, a distinction that will allow it to name the first minister in the government.


The significance of the election lies less in political privileges than hard-fought history: A nationalist party at the helm in Northern Ireland will kindle new hopes for Irish unity, but it could also sow a return to unrest between Catholics and Protestants in a territory where delicate power-sharing arrangements have kept the peace for more than two decades.


It is a remarkable coming-of-age for a party that many still associate with paramilitary violence.


“For nationalists who have lived in Northern Ireland for decades, to see Sinn Fein as the largest party is an emotional moment,” said Diarmaid Ferriter, professor of modern Irish history at University College Dublin. “The very idea of leading a government in Northern Ireland would once have been repugnant to it.”


Across the United Kingdom, local election results on Friday were handing some setbacks to Prime Minister Boris Johnson, in what was widely seen as a test of the damage to him and his Conservative Party from a swirling scandal over lockdown-breaking parties at Downing Street.


But it was in Northern Ireland where the results were carrying the most sweeping potential for change.


Sinn Fein’s victory has deeply unsettled the unionists, who have declined to say they will take part in a government with a Sinn Fein first minister. That could lead to a breakdown of Northern Ireland’s parliament, known as Stormont, and paralysis in the government. Some even fear a flare-up of the violence between Catholics and Protestants that the peace accord ended after the 30-year guerrilla war known as the Troubles.


Sinn Fein made its electoral gains with a campaign that emphasized kitchen-table issues like the rising cost of living and health care, and that played down its totemic commitment to uniting the North and South of Ireland — a vestige of its ties to the Irish Republican Army.


The shift will push the Democratic Unionist Party, which favors Northern Ireland’s present status as a part of the United Kingdom, into second place for the first time since the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, which created the system under which unionists and nationalists share power.

Sinn Fein Is Emerging As the Largest Party in Northern Ireland - The New York Times

Trouble ahead me thinks

A few of my Irish friends have said they can't afford the north It will be interesting how this all pans out. Scotland's dash for independence appears to be waning thank fuck.

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

Scotland's dash for independence appears to be waning thank fuck.

Yeah, because the SNP didn't just beat the fcuk out of all opponents at the ballot box yesterday.

Oh wait ... they did.



Stick that to your dartboard, numpty.

its all about time NI got back to its roots and Scotland took responsibility for their decisions instead of Blackford, the overblown blimp blaming everything on Westminster.

Its all good from where i stand, neither devolved Govt will be able to hide their financial and political mismanagement any longer.

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

A few of my Irish friends have said they can't afford the north

The don't need to, the EU and Uncle Sam will ensure success.

Why don't they just swap all those glasgow pikeys for the NI protestants?

Then they can all be happy.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Yeah, because the SNP didn't just beat the fcuk out of all opponents at the ballot box yesterday.

Oh wait ... they did.



Stick that to your dartboard, numpty.

Scottish independence poll: More 'don't knows' leads to boost for 'No' side | The National

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/scotland/2022/03/the-snp-has-missed-its-chance-for-scottish-independence

+ Labour gains means less sway for a yes vote

+ People are forgetting, this isn't a general election.

She's not even really 100% Scottish, family is from the North East of England.

I won't bother calling you a name.

Furthermore

Scottish Council Elections 2022 - BBC News

They only raised their number of councillors by 22 from a total offering of 78 councillors that changed hands. They already had 'beat the fcuk' out of their opponents over the last two decades. If yes for independence was truly still growing, we would have seen a much higher number changing to the SNP. That is my take on it anyway and I am in no way a political analyst.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why don't they just swap all those glasgow pikeys for the NI protestants?

Then they can all be happy.

Another bigoted reply from the TD know it all, arsehole.

BTW - who are “they?”

Originally Posted by malmomike77

In a seismic election shift in Northern Ireland, the pro-unity Sinn Fein is winning.

From winning to won now.

Sorry for the Biden pot shot, i was a bit excited last night and uncle Joe has shown he's pretty much pro united Ireland and considers the UK somewhere on his list of favoured partners/priorities between Burkina Faso and naval fluff.

Anyway i've woken up this morning assessed the situation in the cold light of day tempered by the smog and stench of a Thai morning plastic burn and i still find myself delighted by the propect of a united Ireland.

England is more and more isolated, more and more abandoning a sinking ship. Haven't Brexit and Boris done well.

Originally Posted by panama hat

England is more and more isolated, more and more abandoning a sinking ship. Haven't Brexit and Boris done well.

I think Brexit is delivering nicely if its tipped the scales for yhe good people of NI and Scotland to regain their independence.

The EU should be delighted, a larger Ireland with increased contributions and another future member with President Nicola pushing for membership.

Originally Posted by panama hat

England is more and more isolated, more and more abandoning a sinking ship. Haven't Brexit and Boris done well.

Ever heard of CANZUK?

^ hot news just in, there never was a special relationship. Who cares, two nations make warn overtures when it suits them. Outside of politics no one in the UK or USA gives a xxxx.

In other news Joe is encouraging parties to return to the table at Stourmont. Of course the Unionists know he despises them so he needs to work out a way of overcoming the damage he's done since he came to power.

Over to you Joe.

^ The US thinks that but the UK really believes there's a special relationship.

The US kept funding IRA terrorism even after the UK begged them to stop ? This sounds like you are getting the Russia treatment.

The so called special relationship is based on tactfully concealed hostility -Peter Hitchens.

Originally Posted by Backspin

^ The US thinks that but the UK really believes there's a special relationship.

The US kept funding IRA terrorism even after the UK begged them to stop ? This sounds like you are getting the Russia treatment.

The so called special relationship is based on tactfully concealed hostility -Peter Hitchens.

^ Can i encourage you to confine your moron confetti to one thread.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

a larger Ireland with increased contributions

That would make a nice change from the pikeys being a bunch of fucking scroungers.

Originally Posted by Iceman123

Another bigoted reply from the TD know it all, arsehole.

BTW - who are “they?”

What's bigoted about it?

It solves all the problems of the whinging, miserable pikeys.

They get a nice home surrounded by their fellow kiddie fiddlers, and the UK gets rid of them.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

I think Brexit is delivering nicely

Of course you do . . . then one day you'll sober up.

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

Ever heard of CANZUK?

Sure, that would more than make up for the EU. Well, it won't even it it comes to fruition.

Let's throw out some numbers, shall we?

Just the top three in the EU and the Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis.

Germany and Canada 3.806 trillion and 1.640 trillion GDP

France and Australia 2.603 trillion and 1.331 trillion GDP

Italy and NZ 1.886 trillion and 212 billion

Now, let's list the GDP of all other EU countri.... Nah, no point.

Whichever way you slice it or dice it, it is a lost cause

Originally Posted by panama hat

Of course you do . . . then one day you'll sober up.



Sure, that would more than make up for the EU. Well, it won't even it it comes to fruition.

Let's throw out some numbers, shall we?

Just the top three in the EU and the Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis.

Germany and Canada 3.806 trillion and 1.640 trillion GDP

France and Australia 2.603 trillion and 1.331 trillion GDP

Italy and NZ 1.886 trillion and 212 billion

Now, let's list the GDP of all other EU countri.... Nah, no point.

Whichever way you slice it or dice it, it is a lost cause

So is the first number the one we lose and the second we gain or are they just numbers approximating the size of economies the UK has access to atm.

I think Ulster is better off going with the Republic, but would they have them?