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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I'm finally gonna open a Bitcoin account.
    You are a bit late to the party.

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    US government defends 'Ministry of Truth'

    Homeland Security chief says the task force is the exact opposite of George Orwell’s infamous brainchild

    The newly unveiled ‘Disinformation Governance Board’, operating within the US Department of Homeland Security, has triggered a massive pushback, forcing DHS chief Alejandro Mayorkas to make several appearances on national TV in an attempt to clarify how the unit will operate.

    Many critics, including top Republicans, have blasted the initiative as a crackdown on free speech, akin to a ‘Ministry of Truth’ taken from the pages of George Orwell’s dystopian novel ‘1984’.

    Speaking on CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday, Mayorkas dismissed the criticism by claiming that thought policing is “precisely the opposite of what this small working group within the Department of Homeland Security will do.”

    “What it will do is gather together best practices in addressing the threat of disinformation from foreign state adversaries from the cartels and disseminate those best practices to the operators that have been executing in addressing this threat for years,” he explained, after CNN’s Dana Bash said it was still not clear “how this governance board will act.”

    The DHS chief also repeatedly reassured Americans that the unit has absolutely no intention, “operational authority,” or “capability” to spy on US citizens.

    The new body is headed by Nina Jankowicz, whose resume includes working with the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry and overseeing the Russia and Belarus programs at the National Democratic Institute lobby group. Detractors also scrutinized her for dismissing the New York Post’s suppressed Hunter Biden laptop story as a fake “Russian influence op,” only for it to be later verified by major media outlets.

    In a separate appearance on Fox News Sunday, Mayorkas defended the qualifications and objectivity of Jankowicz, calling her “eminently qualified” and a “renowned expert in the field of disinformation.”

    I don’t question her objectivity. There are people in the department who have a diverse range of views and they’re incredibly dedicated to mission. We’re not the opinion police.


    White House press secretary Jen Psaki also attempted to play down the ‘anti-disinformation’ initiative as an alleged “continuation of work that began at the Department of Homeland Security in 2020, under former President Trump.”

    The new censorship push was announced on Wednesday, just two days after billionaire Elon Musk reached an agreement to buy Twitter for $44 billion and vowed to restore freedom of speech on the platform.

    Responding to news of Musk’s Twitter takeover, Jankowicz said, “I shudder to think about if free speech absolutists were taking over more platforms, what that would look like for the marginalized communities, which are already shouldering disproportionate amounts of this abuse.”

    US government defends 'Ministry of Truth' — RT World News

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    You can understand why the Republicans are so against it: They are the ones peddling the bullshit.

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    1984

    PayPal Blocks Multiple Alternative Media Figures Critical Of US Empire Narratives


    "In the era of a declining US empire, censorship has become the last resort of an unpopular regime and its forever wars to make the truth disappear and critical thinking all but dead. With the war in Ukraine raging on, we’ve entered war time and Big Tech giants, including Paypal, are working hand in hand with the New Cold War architects themselves to sanction dissenting journalists. If you read the board of any of these tech giants from Google, Twitter, Facebook and Paypal, they read like a rogues' gallery of war mongers and their agenda is clear: To control the free flow of information and target the bank accounts of anyone who dares question the official narrative of the Pentagon or State Department.


    "It is outrageous to be told that tech giants, which are run by those who directly profit from the New Cold war including the crisis in Ukraine, could limit any journalist’s ability to fund their work. Can you imagine if this was the norm in Russia, China or Iran? Our media would be screaming about free speech and first amendment rights. Yet, when we do it’s ok because it’s under the guise of fighting 'Russian propaganda'.

    https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/paypal-blocks-multiple-alternative?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoyOTEwNjc5OCwicG9z dF9pZCI6NTMwNjg4NDIsIl8iOiIybmZnTCIsImlhdCI6MTY1MT U0MDc0NywiZXhwIjoxNjUxNTQ0MzQ3LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItODIx MjQiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.69SKCqxtPpCrLB 56S47yyaccBfDIoi2gk21A-X_bL10&s=r


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    Paypal blocking misinformation scammers from making money.

    What a cracking idea.

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    Thought you might love that 'arry. Would you like to be Big Brother, one day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    It is outrageous to be told that tech giants, which are run by those who directly profit from the New Cold war including the crisis in Ukraine
    What a crock of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Thought you might love that 'arry. Would you like to be Big Brother, one day?
    I can understand why you would desperately try and criticise it, since all you post is bollocks as well. But the truth is a lot of people would like to see pathological liars on the internet exposed, and certainly deprived of the opportunity to make money from their bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Thought you might love that 'arry. Would you like to be Big Brother, one day?
    Private companies making their own decisions about how they conduct their business is the complete antithesis of ‘big brother’.

    It’s becoming increasingly apparent that you can’t possibly have read ‘1984’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Private companies making their own decisions about how they conduct their business is the complete antithesis of ‘big brother’.
    Exactly! Really simple for those of us more reasoned folks.



    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    It’s becoming increasingly apparent that you can’t possibly have read ‘1984’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    It’s becoming increasingly apparent that you can’t possibly have read ‘1984’.
    Unless it's pop-up or colouring, unlikely he's read anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Private companies making their own decisions
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Exactly!


    Surely abiding to this NaGastan government agency "rules", you mean:

    Biden’s ‘disinformation czar’ Nina Jankowicz accused of being a ‘Democratic propogandist’


    May 02, 2022 - 11:58AM






    "The White House has been forced to defend its decision to create a Disinformation Governance Board to combat disinformation online.


    The board, which is under the purview of the Department of Homeland security, will be headed up by Nina Jankowicz."

    Biden’s ‘disinformation czar’ Nina Jankowicz accused of being a ‘Democratic propogandist’ | Sky News Australia


    Last edited by OhOh; 03-05-2022 at 04:15 PM.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Nice shit source, OhDoh you fucking moron.

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    Private companies making their own decisions about how they conduct their business is the complete antithesis of ‘big brother’.
    The 'Disinformation Governance Board' is a government agency, and part of the Dept of Homeland Security. Curious to know how you consider that to be the antithesis of big brother?





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    Except you are not telling the truth, you are pushing fantasist propaganda nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The 'Disinformation Governance Board' is a government agency, and part of the Dept of Homeland Security. Curious to know how you consider that to be the antithesis of big brother?
    Curious to know how you've mixed up my response to your clueless comments about PayPal with ohno's off topic drivel?

    Well not really - it's disingenuous nonsense, which is what you two do.

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    fantasist propaganda nonsense.
    Lets examine some, from recent history.


    10/7/2002, George W. Bush, President


    “The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas.”


    03/16/2003, Dick Cheney, Vice President


    “My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. . . . I think it will go relatively quickly, . . . [in] weeks rather than months.”


    03/22/2003, General Tommy Franks


    “There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. As this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.”


    Just wondering how under the new censorship regime and recently established government Truth agency, these criminals could have been defunded, and their vile lies shielded from a vulnerable and gullible public?



    Instead of, y'know the Truthtellers being sidelined, demonized, and losing their jobs if in MSM. Is that what you reckon the new 'regime' will accomplish?

    Last edited by sabang; 03-05-2022 at 06:11 PM.

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    More whataboutism nonsense crap. You always resort to that when you have no retort.



    Like a cornered rat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Curious to know how you've mixed up my response to your clueless comments about PayPal with ohno's off topic drivel?

    Well not really - it's disingenuous nonsense, which is what you two do.
    Straw clutching is SOP for the four wanketeers.

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    Whataboutism?? And you think of yourself as a Patriot. Maybe you should listen to an actual Patriot-






    „This is a book about a lie and the liars who told it to the American people. It is also about citizenship and the responsibility of all Americans to hold themselves to the highest standards of citizenship, including holding accountable those we elect to represent us in higher office. It is about truth, justice and the rule of law and the danger imposed on us all by those who lie, pervert justice, and absolve themselves from the rule of law.“ — Scott Ritter, book Frontier Justice

    Source: Scott Ritter quotes (13 quotes) | Quotes of famous people



    „This is not about the security of the United States. This is about domestic American politics. The national security of the United States of America has been hijacked by a handful of neo-conservatives who are using their position of authority to pursue their own ideologically-driven political ambitions. The day we go to war for that reason is the day we have failed collectively as a nation.“ — Scott Ritter

    Source: Scott Ritter quotes (13 quotes) | Quotes of famous people


    Funny how Scott Ritter is one of those being censored in this Brave New World.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Maybe you should listen to an actual Patriot-
    This clown again. You are repetitive. He is a discredited convicted felon. Do you have a more credible source to back up your repetitive crap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Funny how Scott Ritter is one of those being censored in this Brave New World.
    He literally gets paid from a state owned Russian propaganda service. A state that censors, no, jails, people who's opinions go against the official state narrative. And he's crying about censorship. He's a fucking hypocrite just like you sabang.

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    ^ And, apparently married to a woman who is suspected to be a Russian asset. Rumor only, you know.

    “Ritter has also long been suspected of being recruited by the Soviets "who honey potted him, with a woman he would eventually marry", U.S. former intelligence officer and Newsweek editor-at-large Naveed Jamali tweeted on Thursday.

    Jamali said Ritter met his wife in 1988 while in the Soviet Union doing weapons inspection. His wife Marina Ritter was part of a group of "young girls" introduced to American inspectors. The New York Times reported that the FBI continously questioned Marina, because the agency believed she was a former KGB agent. Ritter described the investigation into his wife as "harassment".”

    Scott Ritter's Twitter Reinstated After Suspension Over Ukraine Remarks

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    apparently married to a woman who is suspected to be a Russian asset.
    No surprise there. Sabwang and his strange bedfellows.

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    ^^ Out of date kitty. Scott Ritter has been permanently banned from Twitter in the Brave New World.


    Twitter Re-Ban of Scott Ritter, Kafkaesque Support of Impersonator, Is All About Anti-Russia Propaganda

    Posted on April 14, 2022 by Yves Smith

    Scott Ritter has the misfortune to be articulate, well-reasoned, and tenacious in staking our officialdom-offending views. That has put him on Twitter’s permanent shit list. We’ll recap his current must-read article on Consortium News describing in painful detail why his second ban this month is on obviously fabricated charges. And to add insult to injury, Twitter has allowed a Scott Ritter impersonator to set up shop, despite that clearly violating Twitter’s own policies as well as identity theft laws in New York, where Ritter lives, and California, where Twitter is headquartered.

    Ritter is far from the only once-prominent Twitter voice to be suspended for wrong-think on Ukraine:





    And even though it would require discovery to prove it to the “preponderance of evidence” standard, Twitter’s posture as Enforcer of the Narrative sure makes it walk and talk like a state actor.

    By way of background, the former UN weapons inspector was one of the loudest, most persistent, and effective critics of the bogus “WMD in Iraq” claim, which was the basis for our invasion. Ritter has now been making the rounds, mainly on non-mainstream leftish shows like CN Live! Greyzone, Maverick Multimedia, and the Antiwar Coalition as well as what is stereotyped as the bro-ish libertarian right, such at The Duran and Gonzalo Lira. Oh, and he has the temerity to still appear on the verboten RT.

    Ritter’s view of the war has been decisively opposed to the version pumped out by the press: Russia is winning and will win decisively. He’s been overly bullish on the timetable, but has given detailed accounts of how Russia has engaged in classic “maneuver warfare” to shape the battlefield and dictate the nature and timing of the engagement. He’s also stressed that media employees and supposed military experts who’ve never seen a day of combat keep projecting US methods onto Russia and thus completely misconstruing what is going on. Russia has not gone the US route of taking out electricity, cell towers, the Internet, and railroads at the onset. Nor has it bombed cities into rubble, which it could easily have done. It has instead gone easy on civilians, taken more military losses, and has prosecuted the war in a more step-by-step, grinding manner, slowly but systematically destroying Ukraine’s ability to wage war while avoiding its cities as much as possible. Russia follows Clausewitz, and Clausewitz argued the fastest path to victory was destroying armies, not cities.

    Twitter Re-Ban of Scott Ritter, Kafkaesque Support of Impersonator, Is All About Anti-Russia Propaganda | naked capitalism


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