Thread: What does Socialist mean to you?

Originally Posted by baldrick

what does Socialist mean to you willy ?

to me Socialism is using the wealth of everybody to provide services for everybody

In the UK socialist means making public services so awful, that anyone with a few quid in his pocket will do all they can to avoid it, and go private.

Originally Posted by baldrick

to me Socialism is using the wealth of everybody to provide services for everybody

Originally Posted by panama hat

With Albanese up against him and Jacinda perpetually upset with him I'll pass my vote to ScMo.

Yup...

Or:

Socialism is when your neighbor get sick and can go to a hospital, not run for profits, but because everybody deserves it.

Socialism is just, imo, a fair way of sharing the cake.

If you prefer Indonesia ?

Good for you

Or the US, for that matter. No thanks. Do you know the average life expectancy in commie, 'third world' China has recently surpassed that of the USA?
I think calling someplace Socialist these days is the ultimate backhanded compliment.

Originally Posted by sabang

Or the US, for that matter. No thanks. Do you know the average life expectancy in commie, 'third world' China has recently surpassed that of the USA?
I think calling someplace Socialist these days is the ultimate backhanded compliment.

77.30 years
The current life expectancy for China in 2022 is 77.30 years, a 0.22% increase from 2021. The life expectancy for China in 2021 was 77.13 years, a 0.22% increase from 2020.

China Life Expectancy 1950-2022 | MacroTrends

79.05 years
The current life expectancy for U.S. in 2022 is 79.05 years, a 0.08% increase from 2021. The life expectancy for U.S. in 2021 was 78.99 years, a 0.08% increase from 2020.

U.S. Life Expectancy 1950-2022 | MacroTrends

NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus.

^From Davids link

Den største nedgang i forventet levealder var blandt mænd i USA, som havde en nedgang på 2,2 år i forhold til niveauet i 2019, efterfulgt af litauiske mænd (1,7 år).

As you can see from this research, life expectancy has dropped 2,2 years for US males
compared to 2019

Statistics !

https://www.sdu.dk/da/nyheder/forskningsnyheder/faldende-levealder

Originally Posted by helge

Or:

Socialism is when your neighbor get sick and can go to a hospital, not run for profits, but because everybody deserves it.

but when he gets to hospital there’s no medicine, the nurse on duty couldn’t give a fuck and the doctor is poorly trained.

Socialism is just, imo, a fair way of sharing the cake.
you

In theory. In reality there is no cake for you and your comrades only for the pigs.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

In theory. In reality there is no cake for you and your comrades only for the pigs.

Give me a hint

Who are the pigs ?

Originally Posted by sabang

I think calling someplace Socialist these days is the ultimate backhanded compliment.

No it’s not. But I’d expect that level of retardation from you.

Name one proper functioning socialist society.

Originally Posted by helge

Give me a hint

Who are the pigs ?

Oh my. I’d thought you might have been able to get that Orwellian reference.

The average life expectancy of Chinese citizens rose to 77.3 years in 2019, and it is expected that the data will keep growing in 2020. Meanwhile, life expectancy in the US fell to 77 years in 2020, dropping by 1.8 years compared to that of 2019.

That's what I went off. Dreaded GT. But the nations we often derogatively sneer at as socialist are often outperforming our own. Maybe there is something in the philosophy that government should put the Peoples interest first, rather than Business and the already Rich...

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Name one proper functioning socialist society.

Can't

Originally Posted by DrWilly

functioning socialist society.

Can't

Originally Posted by DrWilly

socialist society.

Can't
Yes
I'm picky

But then again

All scandis are communist to the like of your own Sir Joh

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Oh my. I’d thought you might have been able to get that Orwellian reference.

It crossed my mind

Do you find Denmark Orwellian ?

You being aussie had me thinking of the coppers too.


Who eats the cake in your liberalistic shangri la of Indonesia ?

Originally Posted by sabang

That's what I went off. Dreaded GT. But the nations we often derogatively sneer at as socialist are often outperforming our own. Maybe there is something in the philosophy that government should put the Peoples interest first, rather than Business and the already Rich...

Such as Venezuela?

Originally Posted by helge

Do you find Denmark Orwellian ?

Denmark is not socialist.

You being aussie had me thinking of the coppers too ?

Im bored of you.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Denmark is not socialist.

True

But Orwell was

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Im bored of you.

I'm devastated

Originally Posted by sabang

Scandi countries are close enough to Socialist, although social democrat might be closer to the mark

Some refer to this as democratic socialism, though this is far from correct. Some economists refer to it as cuddly capitalism, contrasting with what is seen as cut-throat capitalism in other Western countries.

Originally Posted by helge

^From Davids link

As you can see from this research, life expectancy has dropped 2,2 years for US males
compared to 2019

Statistics !

Fair call.

Clean up on aisle 10.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Name one proper functioning socialist society.

why do you use the word comrade when disparaging socialism ? it is not communism

All prosperous European nations have elements of socialism woven into their governments. No one form of government works well on its own, they need to be combined. The nations that do this the best are the most happy and prosperous in the world.

socialising what should be called basic human services is common sense

all healthcare , housing and retirement should have socalised safety net and maybe minimums for electricity and internet run by the state

all privatisation has achieved is higher prices and less services

Originally Posted by baldrick

all privatisation has achieved is higher prices and less services

Concur 100% just look to America to see what disaster too much privatization causes.