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    I have no problem with that

    It's when they pair their ignorance with loud comments like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    You have absolutely NO CLUE what you are babbling about!!!!!

    -that I find it somewhat embarrasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    We are dealing with the sort of retards that didn't even know bonds were debt helge. Need I say more?
    You gormless buffoon, you're a jackass with the mind of a fishwife in the market.

    A fucking bank note is debt. In our fiat economy everything is debt negotiated as an asset. A T bond is an asset bought from the government. It isn't a fucking loan " so that they can buy more from Chinks " you dozy clot.

    Now fuck off back to your clinic.

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    Shame you feel the need to add insults like coon and factory of your repertoire, really does detract from your message and, as Tomcat rightly pointed out shows you up as backward and bigoted as an Alabama hillbilly.

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    To be expected from the sort of folk that don't know what a Bond is. Anyway, kinda stoopid really- you can't 'cancel' the invitation of a club member to a club summit, just because you don't like them. You have to cancel the said membership for that to happen. Given that Russia has officially announced they now 'look East', I doubt they would give a toss anyway- but I have no idea what the process might be, and further I think it would just damage the standing of G20.

    Look at G7- it's just a white mans club, no real international standing except that it includes wealthy Caucasian countries. No coons there Seeking-a-slum.
    Last edited by sabang; 11-04-2022 at 07:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    no real international standing except that it includes wealthy Caucasian countries
    ...and that wealth is more than enough to ensure international standing...

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    I believe they humbly describe themselves as the 'international community'.

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    ^...no humility required with such enormous wealth and productive capacity...

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    Yes Ms. Wong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    We are dealing with the sort of retards
    The words "dealing with the sort of" are redundant there.

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    Helge, why do you always act like an imbecile and put up a question mark on almost every comment. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The savages are merely consumers and depend
    on tha US $ to function, you oaf. Where did you think all that US QE
    went?
    Also, the Chinks through treasury bonds are the largest US debt holder in the world, you lummox.
    The West owns the world, the world borrows from it.
    This is what the idiot answered:
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    No, China is the USA's largest creditor. Lends them the money, so they can afford to buy more stuff from China.
    Do you know the meaning of afford?

    While Chinese-owned debt is frequently drummed up as a political talking
    point, there's nothing particularly sinister about an export-oriented
    economy investing in Treasury securities. In fact, Treasuries are a logical investment for a country with high foreign currency reserves. China currently holds almost 14% of U.S. foreign debt.
    $1,060.1 is peanuts for the U.S. !!!! But Sabang makes it look like the end of the world because he has no clue (like always) what he is babbling about.

    Did you figure out the part with Luxembourg yet? Of course not, or else you would not be asking dumb questions.


    CHINA is just a factory!
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    $1,060.1
    Ya mean, $1,o60,100,000,000? Ya meister, das ist ein peaknuckle. Expensive lederhosen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Shame you feel the need to add insults like coon and factory of your repertoire, really does detract from your message and, as Tomcat rightly pointed out shows you up as backward and bigoted as an Alabama hillbilly.
    The message, however, is correct . . . after it's been cleaned up.



    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Expensive lederhosen.
    Except he's not Bavarian . . . but keep on trying

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    no real international standing except that it includes wealthy Caucasian countries.
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    with such enormous wealth and productive capacity...
    A list, of all countries' indication countries "wealth". Created to point out in another thread that NaGastan being the weariest country in the world is another illusion.

    My intention was also to illustrate their relative Military position, so only those with a Nuclear capability are displayed.


    https://tradingeconomics.com/country...nt-debt-to-gdp

    When the Annual GDP PPP is the criteria, the figures are even worse for the bottom three.

    In addition, some of the listed annual country's trade balance are also very weak.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Ya mean, $1,o60,100,000,000?
    Full faith and honour.




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    A deft name change and spin-off Mods- fair enough too. Lets be clear about this- the USA is very important to the international economy, primarily as a driver of demand, but also as a major exporter in several key areas. China is too- primarily as an exporter, but increasingly as an importer too- due to the massive (and growing) size of it's domestic market. If either catches a cold, the world catches flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Loans???

    They bought T bonds, you fuck wit
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The US is the wealthiest, most powerful and influential force on the planet - it is the sun around which all others orbit
    1. The most wealthy:
    https://tradingeconomics.com/country...nt-debt-to-gdp

    2. The Most powerful:

    Which Countries Have Nuclear Weapons?


    1. Russia — 6,257 (1,458 active, 3039 available, 1,760 retired)
    2. United States — 5,550 (1,389 active, 2,361 available, 1,800 retired)
    3. China — 350 available (actively expanding nuclear arsenal)
    4. France — 290 available
    5. United Kingdom — 225 available
    6. Pakistan — 165 available
    7. India — 156 available
    8. Israel — 90 available
    9. North Korea — 40-50 available (estimated)


    3. The Most Influential

    A. NaGastan and "partners".

    NATO/EU countries. Population: 947,000,000 people.
    Additional 5 Eyes Countries. (OZ and NZ) Population: 125,000,000 + 5,000,000
    Japan. Population: 125,000,000
    South Korea. Population: 52,000,000

    Total 1,254,000,000 (16%)

    B. Rest of the world Population: 6,746,000,000 (84%)
    Last edited by OhOh; 11-04-2022 at 04:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    If either catches a cold, the world catches flu.
    Quite an unfortunate analogy in China's case.

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    OhOh ... I don't know how you have edited that 'fact'

    Here is a screen shot of the actual table based on the Debt to GDT Ratio.

    Is it a true indication of actual wealth?

    Well, it has Afghanistan as the '3rd richest country' with a Government Debt to GDP ration of 7.8%, up from 6.1% the year earlier.

    But ... "The Afghan economy <snip> was an extremely aid-dependent economy. Seventy-five percent of the economy was dependent on aid."

    https://www.marketplace.org/2022/02/...stans-economy/

    ...


    The US bankrolls the world's economy-screenshot-2022-04-11-19-39-a
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Ya mean, $1,o60,100,000,000? Ya meister, das ist ein peaknuckle. Expensive lederhosen.
    These are numbers that your peanut brain can not comprehend....just like so many other things here on this forum.
    Either way you bend it is still peanuts for the U.S. of A.
    Musk and Bezos could pay off half of it.
    Or maybe sell Apple and still have 2 Trillions left over.

    etc. etc.
    Need to put it in perspective my little sleeping bank guard.

    Maybe the U.S. should just buy China
    How's the vaccine going over there?

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    The United States Government Debt is estimated to have reached 137.20 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product in 2021. source: Office of Management and Budget, The White House

    United States Gross Federal Debt to GDP - 2021 Data - 2022 Forecast


    ^ The above chart is for Total debt to GDP, this one for Federal debt to GDP.

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    I love Greece, Portugal and Italy. They don't play with peanuts and have nothing to offer in return except beaches.

    • National debt in EU countries in relation to gross domestic product (GDP) 2020 | Statista

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    If only the GrecoLatin countries were a sensible as Germany!

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