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[david44]

Any battl inside Ukaine could have dire consequences.

Chernobyl is extremly close across teh Pripiyat marshes to Russian and Belarussian forces in Belarus.

It would be counter productive even if certain of a month of Easterly Dongfeng Winds to blow the containment sarcophagus , but even artillery in the n deserted area will release contaminants into the air.

There was avery good documentary series dramatizing the clean up , I was working advised by radiation expert Gun Astri Swedjemark at Sweden's Karolinska Institut ewhen the alarms went off in Swedish Power Stations , it was Chernobyl accident in the USSR they had tried to hide . Radiation put Welsh lamb of the menu and 1000s still suffer the consequences of ionizing radiation.


Interesting item form Japan who know all too well nuclear hazards

The risk of nuclear disaster in Ukraine | The Japan Times



Frédéric Lagarde's research works | Karolinska Institutet ...

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Gun Astri Swedjemark. A large epidemiologic study on residential radon exposure and lung cancer has been conducted in Sweden.

[cyrille]

Did you spend much time in the area yourself?

It would explain a few things.

[hallelujah]

Did you spend much time in the area yourself?

It would explain a few things.

I reckon Dave has seen quite a bit of acid rain over the years.

[bsnub]

Did you spend much time in the area yourself?

It would explain a few things.

[david44]

I reckon Dave has seen quite a bit of acid rain over the years.

Now that's witty unlike the predictable CYrillic script , if he had learned to read links he'd have noticed the Karolinska Insitut is in Sweden and at the time a world leader in study of Ionising radiation as were colleagues in Culham next to the Harwell site in Oxfordshire.Stanford MIT and others were all working on applications and KI specialized in rn daughters

One of my mentors was the great physician,Prof Doll proved the link between ionising radiation from tobacco in the 1950s an era when US Drs were on tv promoting fags, Of course big smoke covered it up until this century and in many poor places faahs are promoted

[harrybarracuda]

at the time a world leader in study of Ionising radiation as were colleagues in Culham next to the Harwell site in Oxfordshire.

Culham is miles away from Harwell and was built to study nuclear fusion.

RHEL/Rutherford Lab/Rutherford Appleton Lab is next to Harwell and is probably what you're getting confused about.

[Backspin]

Did you spend much time in the area yourself?

It would explain a few things.

The USSR could learn some lessons from the British about how to cover up a nuclear disaster.
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[malmomike77]

That is a picture of “Cockcroft’s Folly”.

[david44]

I regret I cannot illuminate you all further, I used to scintillate but generally have a Absinthe or Vodka sundowner and memories become fluid.

The future is Fusion via Tokamak

For those who seek not my ramblings but seek serious leads

Home - Tokamak EnergyTokamak Energy

ITER - the way to new energy

The late great Doll whose work probably saved more lives than any other

Richard Doll - Wikipedia

Culham is 5 miles away from Harwell

Appreciate the long view a vital contribution to the hazards of ionizing hazards in schlonky East European installations, safety standards.It was over 3 decades ago so I may need correction or indulgence as Alzheimers dims my synapses
I hope like me you are 1000s of miles upwind if push comes to rad

Guess how I know I used to cycle it every day in the good, a great way to compose a thesis on hazards, dodging cars and trucks before the A34 became too dangerous even for any under speed of flight. Things get rebranded funded its the same old Rutheford Appleton labs expanded where AEA did seminars traing under inter alia Michael Reardon a scholar and a gentleman.

Perhaps all NATO need do is lob one on the wreckage when teh Spring storms blow towards Putins lair, while Bors undoubtedly has balls, the Krauts would cry over Gas again and Joe Biden will cop out?

After Mosco and a democratization of Russia then which ways Beijing.
IMHO the US and democratic allies have a few short decades to erase the communist before they dominate.

[Troy]

^ Indeed, the prevailing westerlies wouldn't be too good for Russia if they attacked from the North through Chernobyl area.

[Backspin]

That is a picture of “Cockcroft’s Folly”.

Did you know about windscale or are you just hearing about it now?

[Troy]

^ Just about everyone in the UK knew about Windscale by the mid 60's although not the full severity.

Why else do you think they changed the name?

Not that it is in any way relevant to the thread...but then you are skiddy.

[david44]

Minsk pasties , so few Ukrainians live between Chernobyl ad the Belarus border , the cured Wormwood/Vermouth" they couldn't fill the Etihad, few old Babuschkas probably relieved to be put out of their misery. Oddly devoid of hunters many species returned .

Google Maps

The distance about 10m is less than I cycled to study these issues daily ,

Of course a bit like orgies with multiple partners may be unforeseen circumstances. Dnieper polluted ,Test Match postponed, Borisgate enquiry shelved, Newcastle relegated, Berlin evaporated, Pulse, bio , viral and of course cyber interference which is ongoing. Of course if aerial explosions yield huge fallout from Baltic to Black Sea/Aegean.

For real armchair Generals here's a mock up , while winning EPL a bigger shock fill yer boots

What would happen if a nuclear bomb went off in your backyard? | Outrider

FDR squashed fascism by nuclear , no warning devastating first use, Japs fought on until second at Nagasaki, , massive nuclear fallout and force will ruin Europe but for the. US, remote Mountain men bits could probably survive away from Colorado or Hanford provided knock out China utterly the first 5 m , Israel will deal with the Iranian reactors for free, with alacrity, and I'm sure the wobblies wont' halt to demolish Pakistan.

While dreadful casualties the only real unknow is whether the French will have time to surrender before the Germans .

Seriously Putin will settle for Donbass this season and something else will advert USA, Taiwan Mid East , Mid terms , Mid riff some Trumpery foolery etc as Canadian chavs shoot themselves in both feet.

Should it all go pear shaped let me take this opportunity to thank all our poster for fun and games, anyone know how many photocopies for retirement visa to Thai Heaven?

I imagine its like a cross between Tezza's , Mendy's and Gulliver's but with younger bitches and free flow served by young bar stewards outta da back of a Green Puke UP Fuck as they call it at Willy's BBQ Bachelor and Spunkster parties , Terima Kasih, Ish'alla

SLAINTE

[Joe 90]

The Windscale scene at the end was pretty scary back then...

[malmomike77]

Did you know about windscale or are you just hearing about it now?

Yes, and i have been to sellafield over 20 times, as Troy says its not relevant to Putin looking for an excuse with the separatists to move in.

[helge]

as Troy says its not relevant to Putin looking for an excuse with the separatists to move in.

You are right; neither is Chernobyl

FDR squashed fascims by nuclear

By proxy ?

[david44]

Yes, and i have been to sellafield over 20 times, as Troy says its not relevant to Putin looking for an excuse with the separatists to move in.

You are Jeremy THORPe and claim my settelement pond.

New Clear fools abound

The unacceptable toll of Britain's nuclear
disaster

Thermal Oxide Reprocessing Plant - Wikipedia

[harrybarracuda]

I regret I cannot illuminate you all further, I used to scintillate but generally have a Absinthe or Vodka sundowner and memories become fluid.

The future is Fusion via Tokamak

For those who seek not my ramblings but seek serious leads

Home - Tokamak EnergyTokamak Energy

ITER - the way to new energy

The late great Doll whose work probably saved more lives than any other

Richard Doll - Wikipedia




Appreciate the long view a vital contribution to the hazards of ionizing hazards in schlonky East European installations, safety standards.It was over 3 decades ago so I may need correction or indulgence as Alzheimers dims my synapses
I hope like me you are 1000s of miles upwind if push comes to rad

Guess how I know I used to cycle it every day in the good, a great way to compose a thesis on hazards, dodging cars and trucks before the A34 became too dangerous even for any under speed of flight. Things get rebranded funded its the same old Rutheford Appleton labs expanded where AEA did seminars traing under inter alia Michael Reardon a scholar and a gentleman.

Perhaps all NATO need do is lob one on the wreckage when teh Spring storms blow towards Putins lair, while Bors undoubtedly has balls, the Krauts would cry over Gas again and Joe Biden will cop out?

After Mosco and a democratization of Russia then which ways Beijing.
IMHO the US and democratic allies have a few short decades to erase the communist before they dominate.

Wouldn't it be easier just to admit you got your labs mixed up <sigh>.

[david44]

Russian Troops Seize Chernobyl's Remnants After Battle, Risking Containment Effort

[david44]

Chernobyl nuclear power plant captured by Russians after Putin'&#39;'s forces enter exclusion zone

[malmomike77]

Perhaps they are going to subdue Ukraine with threats of poisoning their water supplies for the next 100,000 years, or its a symbol of Russian pride that they fixed it or they want the tech used if stabilise it because they have other plants going pete tong or some official left their family heirloom there or.....

[david44]

If you me and Jospeh can see this , we can be pretty Putin CIA and Lukashenko knew a 2 weeks back

Bridge Appears In Chernobyl Exclusion Zone That Could Give Russia Unique Access To Ukraine

I am trying to discover if teh Keson bridges have been taken in tact whcih opens the rod to Odssa, Transdnietra ad seals the S escape route for civilians.

Ukranians say they will fight and I don't doubt thir courage, however a Kalashnikov with unlimuted ammo also needs a fed soldier , potable water. Telecomms, medicine and all the logistics.

Both German and Russians know all about partisans in the forests, but these were in an era before heat seeking and night sights I wouldn't put it past Putin to take hostages use gas attacks , if he was happy to use it in UK , seems riskless.

Once a pariah so called sanctions seem light Germany has been SLOW and failed to endorse SWIFT as keeping warm trumps democracy for Slavs , they've had 75 years of free protection and low contribution at expense of UK Dutch and US taxpayers.

Real Sanctions were what happened in Fallujah, Dresden Hiroshima, Biden is too afraid or public opinion, China his wife and the mid terms to take the gloves off.

The message to Xi , try for Taiwan Hong Kong PLA occupation no more dissidents, all the way to Singapore.

A Belarus false flag may be excuse to reunite with Kaliningrad enclave via Lithuania and Memel Courland peninsula. This serves tow of Putin's goals punish the Lithuanians who broke the USSR first , please China, added bonus destabilize Latvia with huge Russian minority , puppet coup, then some excuse of needing Baltic access to attempt Finlandize Estonia.

[malmomike77]

They are in on three fronts with only Ukraine forces to counter them, its a done deal. The next question is how does NATO respond, its been asleep at the tiller.

[david44]

They are in on three fronts with only Ukraine forces to counter them, its a done deal. The next question is how does NATO respond, its been asleep at the tiller.

interactive map and notes here

Clashes now in Chornobyl exclusion zone near the radioactive waste storages Chornobyl', Kyivs'ka oblast - Ukraine Interactive map - Ukraine Latest news on live map - liveuamap.com

[DrWilly]

They are in on three fronts with only Ukraine forces to counter them, its a done deal. The next question is how does NATO respond, its been asleep at the tiller.

Ukraine is not a NATO member.