Thread: The View, from China

Originally Posted by sabang

There is a high speed rail connecting Tibet and lowland China now you know- fancy that. Between Aukus nations, there is not even one, single high speed rail line. How the worm turns.

There are a number of high speed trains in the UK on lines that have been upgraded- with HS2 still to come.

And train travel just isn't a thing for most in America.

Compared to that of an olympian in chinkystan, I think my quarantine is actually OK.

Vasnetsova, who missed her competition, said she received pasta, orange sauce, meat, and potatoes for breakfast, lunch, and dinner for five days straight.

^^ I stand corrected- there is in fact one true HS rail line that connects the Chunnel to the outskirts of London. The rest don't qualify in my book- have you seen the speed of HS rail in China, Japan, and continental Europe?



Operational high-speed lines in the UK. 140–186 mph (225–300 km/h)
125 mph (200 km/h)
<110 mph (177 km/h)

Originally Posted by sabang

^^ I stand corrected- there is in fact one true HS rail line that connects the Chunnel to the outskirts of London. The rest don't qualify in my book- have you seen the speed of HS rail in China, Japan, and continental Europe?



Operational high-speed lines in the UK. 140–186 mph (225–300 km/h)
125 mph (200 km/h)
<110 mph (177 km/h)

I've travelled on them in Korea, Japan and Europe, but the need has never really been there at home given the size of the place, population density and coverage of public transport.

Stand pretty much anywhere in the UK and you'll never be more than 90 minutes by public transport from the coast while the major cities are all no more than 2 to 3 hours away from one another.

Originally Posted by misskit

Tis rich you disbelieve an RFA report but get snatched hook, line, and sinker by the Chinese “news.”

Both propaganda.

Don't post from RFA if you want a scred of credibility.

Might aswell quote Fox

(your story could still have some truth in it though )

Originally Posted by sabang

Well lets face it- they learnt from the best.

And coming right along on time is OhOhs' mini me complete with OhOhs' obfuscation bag. It appears you have lost the ability to draw a line between an alternative viewpoint and a CCP stooge. Your posts are like reading Pravda during the cold war days. Good for a laugh but never ever to be taken seriously, but thanks for the laughs.

Christ, imagine getting this three times a day for a week.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

And coming right along on time is OhOhs' mini me complete with OhOhs' obfuscation bag. It appears you have lost the ability to draw a line between an alternative viewpoint and a CCP stooge. Your posts are like reading Pravda during the cold war days. Good for a laugh but never ever to be taken seriously, but thanks for the laughs.

It's funny how these two rely on chest-beating buffoons to tell them what to say and think.

If they were seppos, they'd be trumpanzees, drinking sheep dewormer and bleach and waiting for JFK to reappear.

Originally Posted by sabang

Thanks for the noble victories in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria etc. Thanks for the massacres, the bloodbaths, the Refugees teaming to our shores (which the US would not take). Thanks for seeing our Australian special Forces decimated- 1st SAS has gone, 2nd SAS a demoralised, debased shadow of it's former self, and an army commando division is all that is really left of our once proud special forces. Thanks for the Honour, the Glory- well no the Humiliation, and Debasement. Thanks for the fact our most decorated soldier is currently before Court for war crimes.


All the way, with the USA!!



Thanks a lot, Patriot.

Oh no! Thank you!
For supporting human rights abuses in Tibet. The breaking of the hong kong agreement. The estimated 30,000 people who have disapeared. The support for Peng Shuei (an obvious liar and western plant) The thousands of chinese citizens who've had their land forcibly taken with little or no compensation, with violence and intimidation for those who refuse to leave land to be used by developers.
The Pandemic that has killed over 5 million people hospitalised even more and sent millions backwards into poverty. Thank you for trying to steal a whole fucking sea from the rightful owners that surround it. Thank you for the millions of human rights violations committed by the CCP not to mention Tiananmen square (shhh).
I'm sure all those chinese citizens citizens are thankful for your support of the CCP, especially the families of the "disappeared".

Why are people disappearing in China? | Human Rights Watch

Up to 30,000 people disappeared in China while held in ‘coercive custody,’ report says - LiCAS.news | Light for the Voiceless

The US trade deficit soared 27 percent in 2021 to reach an all-time high of $859.1 billion, among which the deficit with China widened to $355.3 billion from $310.3 billion in 2020, according to data issued by the US Commerce Department on Tuesday.

The widening trade deficit is of irony considering the fact that the US has been piling up trade pressure on China by various means such as imposing sanctions and tariffs. None of the goals the US hoped to attain, such as bringing manufacturing back to the country, reducing the US trade deficit, and containing China's rise by weakening its economy - has been achieved.

If anything, the essence of the US trade deficit with China underlines the fact that the US has no alternative industrial chains to replace China's manufacturing powerhouse.

It is not long ago that the "hollowing out" of US manufacturing was a hot topic of discussions in business and academic circles. While most of the high-end manufacturing remains in the US, the lower- and middle-end industries have moved out of the country - a natural development for developed economies. That means despite its control over the high-end industrial sectors, the US still needs other countries, particularly China, to produce consumer goods like smartphones, clothes, furniture and so on.

The tariffs did not dampen strong demand from American consumers for Chinese goods. And since the tariffs the US levied on Chinese imports are largely borne by US consumers and companies, the US economy is suffering more than China's.

Now how to rein in the rising inflation has become the biggest challenge facing the Biden administration, which know clearly that the country's inflation crisis has something to do with its heavy tariffs on Chinese imports while still unwilling to give up those tariffs. But if the Biden administration keep prices at near record highs, rising discontent with surging prices is likely to ruin the Democratic Party in the upcoming midterm elections.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202202/1251860.shtml

Great outlook for China

A new low for global democracy | The Economist

Some people here are hoping/wishing that their wife might also vanish, but in this case....

Desmond Shum

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Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Zhao Lijian’s Regular Press Conference on February 11, 2022

"Associated Press of Pakistan:

Prime Minister Imran Khan in an interview with Mr. Li, Director of the Advisory Committee of China Institute of Fudan University, said that Belt and Road Initiative can help Pakistan lift its people out of poverty. He noted “we see CPEC and Gwadar as a great opportunity for our geoeconomics. I think this is not exclusive between Pakistan and China. We invite any other country to join and invest in CPEC projects”. What is China’s comment on this?

Zhao Lijian:

We appreciate Prime Minister Imran Khan’s remarks. As an important pilot project of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) upholds the principles of extensive consultation, joint contribution and shared benefits. Since its inception, it has boosted economic development, improved people’s livelihood and generated positive socioeconomic effects. China is ready to work with Pakistan to follow through on the consensus reached by the leaders, deepen CPEC’s development, ensure smooth implementation of major projects, expand cooperation in science and technology, agriculture and livelihood, build a corridor for green development, health and digital economy, and make CPEC a demonstration program of high-quality development under the BRI
.
China and Pakistan welcome all countries and international organizations that support the BRI and CPEC, and hope to conduct mutually beneficial cooperation with China and Pakistan for common development to participate in CPEC’s development on the basis of consensus to share in the benefits of development.

Beijing Daily: According to reports, US Secretary of State Blinken said in an interview with Australian media outlets that China’s trade sanctions on Australia have backfired and by standing up to Beijing, Australia “set an incredibly powerful example” for the world. “I think China has lost more than Australia has in its efforts to squeeze Australia economically,” he said, adding that Beijing would be “thinking twice about this in the future”.  Does the Chinese side have any comment?

Zhao Lijian:

With regard to “coercion”, no one has a better claim to the title of “master of coercion” than the US. Speaking of “coercion”, the US government forced the military government of Haiti to step down in 1994, and referred to that as “a textbook example of coercive diplomacy”. In 2003, it explicitly characterized $30.3 billion additional military expenses for “coercive diplomacy” as incurred expenses. The US government went all out to hobble competitors like Huawei of China, Alstom of France and Toshiba of Japan and used coercion to force the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC), Samsung and other companies to provide chip supply chain data. These are textbook examples of economic coercion.  

I would like to reiterate that China always proceeds from the lawful rights and interests of domestic industries and the safety of consumers and adopts appropriate measures on imported products in strict compliance with Chinese laws and regulations as well as WTO rules. This is fully justified, lawful and beyond reproach.

The label of “economic coercion” cannot be pinned on China.

All attempts to gang up with others to misrepresent facts and resort to malicious hype-up are bound to fail."

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Zhao Lijian’s Regular Press Conference on February 11, 2022

I wonder how much Khan is trousering off the deal.

His people are well aware of how corrupt (and thus corruptible) is his government.

Pakistanis calling Imran Khan ‘corruption king’ after latest Transparency report

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

For supporting human rights abuses in Tibet. The breaking of the hong kong agreement. The estimated 30,000 people who have disapeared. The support for Peng Shuei (an obvious liar and western plant) The thousands of chinese citizens who've had their land forcibly taken with little or no compensation, with violence and intimidation for those who refuse to leave land to be used by developers.
The Pandemic that has killed over 5 million people hospitalised even more and sent millions backwards into poverty. Thank you for trying to steal a whole fucking sea from the rightful owners that surround it. Thank you for the millions of human rights violations committed by the CCP not to mention Tiananmen square (shhh).
I'm sure all those chinese citizens citizens are thankful for your support of the CCP, especially the families of the "disappeared".

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Oh no! Thank you!

Just to get it right.

You didn't have an answer to sabang's post ,but this?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

For supporting human rights abuses in Tibet.

Only in Tibet ?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

The breaking of the hong kong agreement.

Yeah well. Without knowing what "break", wasn't that to be expected ?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

The estimated 30,000 people who have disapeared.

Recently ?
A low figure if you go back a bit, I think

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

The support for Peng Shuei (an obvious liar and western plant)

Now; what is up and down in this case ?

Sexual abuse or not ?

I'm sure that there are many millions of cases like that in China and around the world

But she, being famous, is ofcourse usefull

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

The thousands of chinese citizens who've had their land forcibly taken with little or no compensation, with violence and intimidation for those who refuse to leave land to be used by developers.

Yes and then again; you can watch videos on YouTube with people who has their property surrounded by highrises or express way. cause they wouldn't sell at the offered price

Blows my narrative, you know

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

The Pandemic that has killed over 5 million people hospitalised even more and sent millions backwards into poverty.

Guessing ?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Thank you for trying to steal a whole fucking sea from the rightful owners that surround it.

Bullies, yes

Illegal ?

I'm not sure

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Thank you for the millions of human rights violations committed by the CCP not to mention Tiananmen square (shhh).

You probaly can't count the violations in a country of China's size.

And Sabang can't count the Abos killed in OZ

Won't help any of them to be compared

Tiananmen wasn't the center of killing, though bad enough

Was worse in the suburbs......what I heard back then anyway

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I'm sure all those chinese citizens citizens are thankful for your support of the CCP, especially the families of the "disappeared".

It's their thing to take care of the CCP and China.

Just like me being a dane, who has a say in my country and nowhere else.

I'm sure all those chinese citizens citizens are thankful for your support of the CCP,

Well, over 90% are!

One of the Five Eyes has blinked over China

New Zealand has defied the wrath of its Anglosphere allies to sign a big new trade deal with Beijing

16 Feb, 2022 14:42

"China and New Zealand this week completed the ratification of their upgraded free-trade agreement, which will come into force in April. Although the deal was a long time in the works, it expands the number of tariff-free goods New Zealand is able to export into China, securing what is its largest market and a key source of income for its farmers.

The agreement comes despite the growing tensions between Beijing, the United States and its allies, with Washington seeking to put the brakes on China’s expanding economic ties with its allies, in a view towards strategic containment."

Continues at:

One of the Five Eyes has blinked over China — RT World News

China dumping US dollar in trade & investment in Asia

Central bank taking steps to boost local currency settlements with neighboring nations

16 Feb, 2022 13:38

"The Chinese government is planning to work with other Asian nations to strengthen the use of local currencies in trade and investment as part of a broader plan to bolster regional economic strength, according to Yi Gang, the governor of the country’s central bank.
“Emerging markets should improve their resilience,” Yi said on Wednesday during a televised speech at a G20 event hosted by Indonesia. “This is where regional cooperation has a key role to play.”

The official highlighted that the latest progress in using local currencies of emerging Asian nations in trade and investment strengthened the region’s financial safety net against external shocks.

According to Yi, bilateral currency swaps among the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) regional grouping – China, Japan and South Korea – have reached $380 billion."

Continues at:

China dumping US dollar in trade & investment in Asia — RT Business News

"External shocks" = The US upping its interest rate and sucking money out.

New Zealand has defied the wrath of its Anglosphere allies to sign a big new trade deal with Beijing

There is absolutely no foul in capitalizing on the stupidity of others.

Originally Posted by sabang

There is absolutely no foul in capitalizing on the stupidity of others.

Since you're a massive suck up, it's logical for you to cheer fellow suck ups.