Ukraine war mega thread

[OhOh]

It's a bit difficult for Ukrainians picking up humanitarian aid that hasn't been sent yet !

Chinese humanitarian aid has been delivered, from China.

"The first batch of Chinese humanitarian aid has reached Ukraine. The consignment, which includes 1,000 family kits containing daily supplies worth 5 million yuan ($800,000), crossed the Ukraine-Romania border on Friday, having being delivered by plane to Bucharest Airpor

"Better go to Beijing".

Not sure if Chop Sticks are considered a leathal weapon.

a meme from social media?

I suspect The Times may not agree with your label.

those humanitarian corridors, that were agreed on.

By both parties and reneged on by one.

Care to suggest who? Only two to pick from. The one party who proposed putting together or the other?

raised his leg on the Minsk agreement plenty of times.

Some links would assist your allegations to be accepted by our community at TD.

Russia was certainly against the Ukrainians rewriting the UNSC agreed, Minsk Agreements. Would have made a mockery of the UNSC, yes?

However, the separatists in particular repeatedly deny it access to certain areas or shot down the OSCE drones

The two republics used drones eh?

OSCE drones or the Turkey supplied lethal, military drones, that the Ukraine military's acknowledged their use of. On Utub for your education.

Drones were forbidden to both sides in the Minsk Agreements.

Some links would assist your allegations to be accepted by our community at TD.

[HermantheGerman]

Chinese humanitarian $800,000 aid has been delivered, from China.

Care to guess how much little ole Luxembourg has delivered already?

[sabang]

That's the first batch Herman. Do you think it is also the last?

[pickel]

I suspect the Times may not agree with your label.

I suspect you're not too bright if you think that's what I said. Did you see a link attached to the meme?

[HermantheGerman]

That's the first batch Herman. Do you think it is also the last?

Do you think it was Luxembourg's last?

[HermantheGerman]

"Better go to Beijing"

You mean China is going to take Ukraine refugees?

[sabang]

Apart from being Ukraine's largest trade partner, China also gives away more in humanitarian aid than any other nation. So we can safely assume this is not a one-off methinks.

[HermantheGerman]

And now for some real news and no communist bullshit!

»Shamelessly instrumentalised«
The war against Ukraine is causing grain shortages – but China has so far not wanted to discuss the consequences. A diplomatic report available to SPIEGEL shows how dissatisfied the UN organization FAO is.
The allegations against China of keeping a controversial UN report on an impending international food crisis under wraps are getting new fuel. According to insiders from the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), the People's Republic is preventing the publication of an assessment of the global consequences for the food situation that could result from Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Ukraine is one of the largest grain producers in the world, and the fighting is threatening crop failures and thus lower exports.
SPIEGEL had already reported this week on the background to the internal anger in the UN organization in Rome, which was sparked by the role played by FAO Secretary General Qu Dongyu. The Chinese should delay the publication of the FAO report - in the interest of his country.
The outrage at what is happening at the FAO is now also evident in a detailed five-page government document – ​​the »Diplomatic Correspondence« (formerly also known as the »Wire Report«) from the Federal Foreign Office of March 3, 2022 – that SPIEGEL has seen. "According to our trustworthy information, the silence of the FAO on the consequences of the war in the UKR for global food security was ordered from the very top, i.e. by DG QU personally," says the paper by a high-ranking German diplomat from Rome.
According to the document, a 15-page, comprehensive analysis of the short- and medium-term consequences for global food security was "collected without further ado, i.e. its publication was forbidden by his superiors". Even a "two-page summary, clearly defused on instructions from above (i.e. without mentioning the word 'war', without reference to RUS military operations in the UKR)" has not yet been released.
The paper by the German diplomat, whose name is known to SPIEGEL, describes in detail the efforts made by the highest-ranking German representative in the FAO, Josef Schmidhuber, to break the UN agency's silence. The deputy director of the FAO's Markets and Trade Division was thwarted in his attempts, including by the organization's chief economist, Maximo Torero. The Peruvian is described in the report as the "right hand man" of Secretary General Qu Dongyu, who is "under great pressure from him".
Ukraine und Uno: Emporung uber Chinas Rolle in Welternahrungsorganisation - DER SPIEGEL

[HermantheGerman]

Apart from being Ukraine's largest trade partner, China also gives away more in humanitarian aid than any other nation. So we can safely assume this is not a one-off methinks.

Holy shit, is this the comedy channel or what.

Did you run out of Ex-Marine reports bullshit?



Anymore good laughs? Can I shut off my TV now? Dave Chappelle's special is going to have to wait a bit.

[sabang]

It is a Fact Herman. Did you have a point to make, or are you genuinely amused at the fact China is the worlds largest donor country of foreign aid?

[HermantheGerman]

It is a Fact Herman. Did you have a point to make, or are you genuinely amused at the fact China is the worlds largest donor country of foreign aid?

No! Its bullshit!
But I'am sure you can make me laugh AGAIN

Common give it a try...my TV is off.

Let me guess your sources ? Just thinking of your next post makes me laugh


....and the second largest donor is Russia


I guess it depends on what you are donating Sabang
Do missiles and bullets count


Uuupps sorry that was not funny

[OhOh]

Luxembourg has delivered already?

Humanitarian Aid?

One report from Reuters:
Luxembourg to send anti-tank weapons, jeeps to Ukraine, defence minister says

February 28, 20228:23 PM

Luxembourg to send anti-tank weapons, jeeps to Ukraine, defence minister says | Reuters

Another from:

Luxembourg renders financial assistance to Ukraine

9 March 2022 19:34 (UTC+04:00

“Luxembourg has allocated 250 million euros in aid to Ukraine,” Zelenskyy tweeted. “The greatness of the country is evidenced by its actions. I talked to Prime Minister of Luxembourg Xavier Bettel and told about the humanitarian situation. I thanked for 250 million euros in aid, leadership in sanctions policy, support for Ukrainian refugees. The next steps of Ukraine on the way to EU were discussed.”

Luxembourg renders financial assistance to Ukraine

Sending cash to Ukraine?



Another:

François Bausch announces military assistance and support measures for Ukraine

Press release 28.02.2022

"On 28 February 2022, the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defence, François Bausch, announced military assistance and support measures for Ukraine. He informed the parliamentary Defence committee of this decision this morning.

Following various requests from Ukraine and in view of the developments in Ukraine, the Minister of Defence decided to provide lethal and non-lethal equipment as well as logistical support and a financial contribution, but also to increase the military forces in Lithuania within the framework of the reinforced NATO forward presence.

The army will supply 100 NLAW (Next Generation Light Anti-Tank Weapon) to the Ukrainian army.

In addition, the army will provide Ukraine with Jeep Wrangler 4x4 vehicles, as well as 15 military tents

As a member of the Multi-Role Tanker Transport (MRTT) programme and together with the other member countries (Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Norway and the Czech Republic), Luxembourg is currently providing NATO with air-to-air refuelling capabilities for an operation aimed at protecting Allied airspace for the duration of ongoing operations. In addition, the Directorate of Defence offers allied countries the capacity to transport military or humanitarian material via its A400M aircraft or its service contract with the company Cargolux."

Francois Bausch announces military assistance and support measures for Ukraine - government.lu

I suppose Anti-tank weapons, 4x4 Jeeps and 15 tents will be useful to keep the children amused, drive them to the beach and stay overnight so as not to miss the spectacular sun rise.

"Air to air refuelling", "protecting allied airspace", "transporting military or human material via A400 aircraft.

One hopes they are different colours, green ones for carrying humanitarian aid and red ones for those shipping light anti-tank missiles.

One hopes they inform Russian fighters of today's colour scheme, prior to entering Ukraine airspace.

[OhOh]

No! Its bullshit!

See above for some official reports

[HermantheGerman]

After having released an initial sum of €150,000 to support victims of the war in Ukraine at the end of February, the Luxembourg Red Cross (Croix-Rouge luxembourgeoise) sent an additional €200,000 on 2 March 2022 to help the Ukrainian Red Cross to save lives. This sum was raised through donations from the Luxembourgish population.

How Luxembourg Charities Are Supporting Ukrainians

It's so easy to shut up a communist swine


The fact that the Chinese Foreign Ministry wants to send humanitarian aid worth the equivalent of 720,000 euros to Ukraine is more in the direction of cynicism.

[HermantheGerman]

See above for some official reports

See Sabangs post for a good laughs and yours for Untermensch nonsense.

[sabang]

Oh yawn. Why do we have to waste our time on such petulant children-

China

$38 billion

United States

$34.62 billion

List of development aid country donors - Wikipedia

[OhOh]

After having released an initial sum of €150,000 to support victims of the war in Ukraine at the end of February, the Luxembourg Red Cross (Croix-Rouge luxembourgeoise) sent an additional €200,000 on 2 March 2022 to help the Ukrainian Red Cross to save lives.

Zelensky admits his country will have to pay for Western help

Sometimes we receive weapons directly, but you have to understand that everything has its price, he said


13 Mar, 06:58Updated at: 09:37

"KIEV, March 13. /TASS/. Western countries are helping Ukraine, but Kiev is yet to pay for it, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has said.


"The money allocated by Europe and other nations are spent only on humanitarian aid or weapons. Sometimes we receive weapons directly, but you have to understand that everything has its price," he said.

"Whenever the money that we get is mentioned - well, it all came at a cost, it’s not for free."

https://tass.com/world/1421319

One hopes somebody is keeping tabs substantiating how much of the "humanitarian aid funds" are spent on weapons.

[HermantheGerman]

Oh yawn. Why do we have to waste our time on such petulant children-

China

$38 billion

United States

$34.62 billion

List of development aid country donors - Wikipedia

Think about it? Then post again.

[HermantheGerman]

O.K. I will give you a hint:

Use common sense
Use common sense
Use common sense
...if you don't have common sense read very careful what you have posted my little ex-financial-banker-clown

You can do it! Don't make a Jack-Ass out of yourself again.



* read your link

[HermantheGerman]

blaa...blaa...blaa...

https://tass.com/world/1421319

Its so easy to shut up a communist swine!


News agency alliance Eana suspends Russian Tass
After the decisions of the Russian media regulator Roskomnadzor, TASS is no longer able to report unbiasedly and adequately
Moscow/Vienna – The European news agency alliance Eana (European Alliance of News Agencies) is suspending the Russian state news agency Tass. Eana announced this in a broadcast on Sunday afternoon. According to the Eana Board, after the decisions of the Russian media regulator Roskomnadzor, TASS is no longer able to report impartially and adequately on what violates the statutes.




Nachrichtenagenturen-Allianz Eana suspendiert russische Tass - Etat - derStandard.de › Kultur


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[OhOh]

The fact that the Chinese Foreign Ministry wants to send humanitarian aid worth the equivalent of 720,000 euros to Ukraine

After having released an initial sum of €150,000 to support victims of the war in Ukraine at the end of February, the Luxembourg Red Cross (Croix-Rouge luxembourgeoise) sent an additional €200,000 on 2 March 2022

Luxembourg has had a higher GDP per capita PPP than China for the past 50 years, well except for last year.

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China GDP per capita PPP - 2021 Data - 2022 Forecast - 1990-2020 Historical - Chart

"The money allocated by Europe and other nations are spent only on humanitarian aid or weapons.

Of which an undisclosed sum is paying for weapons :

[Switch]

Apart from being Ukraine's largest trade partner, China also gives away more in humanitarian aid than any other nation. So we can safely assume this is not a one-off methinks.

The trouble is, you don’t think. You have a habit of accepting your assumptions are correct, when they are quite clearly flawed.
Totalitarian control has never worked for long enough, to discover all its many faults that serve only the few, not the many.
Until people on both sides accept that such flaws exist, a solution that lasts, will not be forthcoming.

[sabang]

Switch, I very much doubt the initial consignment of Aid that arrived in Ukraine from China is a one off- I am confident (without proof!) it will be followed by more consignments of aid. Do you think differently? If so state your case. Do you believe Ukraine should not accept aid from China? If so state your case.

OK you think China is (to paraphrase) a 'Totalitarian state that won't last long'. But we are talking about aid to Ukraine here. Your political perspective might be more pertinent in a China thread.

[Switch]

Its so easy to shut up a communist swine!


News agency alliance Eana suspends Russian Tass
After the decisions of the Russian media regulator Roskomnadzor, TASS is no longer able to report unbiasedly and adequately
Moscow/Vienna – The European news agency alliance Eana (European Alliance of News Agencies) is suspending the Russian state news agency Tass. Eana announced this in a broadcast on Sunday afternoon. According to the Eana Board, after the decisions of the Russian media regulator Roskomnadzor, TASS is no longer able to report impartially and adequately on what violates the statutes.




Nachrichtenagenturen-Allianz Eana suspendiert russische Tass - Etat - derStandard.de › Kultur


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Chinese and Russian attempts to control the narrative via the flow of restricted, or false information is amoral, and should be actively discouraged or legislated against. Controlling lies is more than a misdemeanor, even when it is used by the EU or NATO.

[Joe 90]

£350 per month to UK residents to put up a Ukrainian and help with food etc for 6 months.
I guess that's the labor shortage over.