Ukraine war mega thread

[sabang]

^^ Oh dear, weren't you invited to the orgy? Me neither.

[harrybarracuda]

Would you prefer some of the Ukrainian neo-Nazi militias sent in as Peacekeepers PH? Yep, that's about stupid and naive enough for you.

No, we'd prefer Putin withdraws his troops, stops stirring the shit and leaves Ukraine alone you fucking halfwit.

[David48atTD]

The people they are protecting, obviously. Reckon they might be celebrating. Reckon some Russian soldiers might be in for a nice bonk too! But no doubt you will describe that as rape.

I asked which country.

Russia has invaded the Donetsk region of Ukraine

[harrybarracuda]

Jeez, take your meds Herman.

The putin arselicker can't help himself.

[David48atTD]

According to Hoohoo's map

This one is more fun ...

[sabang]

Why don't you ask him yourself, Good guy?

[Switch]

Backspin, OhOh and Sabang seem to have forgotten that the Berlin Wall came down, and most of the former Warsaw Pact countries, decide to join Europe.

Putin is still a bit pissed off about that, but it’s too late to cry now. Ukraine has experience of the Russian brand of ‘recognition’. Putin has form for riding roughshod over the wishes of sovereign states. Notice how all the others left Russia stranded by leaving the first chance they got.

Putin is not a diplomat, he’s a bully.

[S Landreth]

Philip Oltermann - Scholz says Nord Stream 2 won't be certified and he has instructed a new assessment of how Germany's energy supplies can be secured. "The situation has fundamentally changed": https://twitter.com/philipoltermann/...78379426136064

[sabang]

Whatever he is or isn't, there is no question that the people in the breakaway republics (a small part of the former, pre-Maidan Ukraine) welcome him there. The incoming Russian troops are being met with bouquets, not brickbats.

[HermantheGerman]

Putin is mortified- he had absolutely no idea that might happen!

^ Seriously, these days who on earth cares what the poms have to say? We already know. Pabst lite.

Don't worry about the poms, you got your own thing coming. But with your military expertise you wouldn't know if your new Prime Minister is a Chinese Puppet.

Laser incident involving Chinese warship most serious in growing trend, ADF says | Australia news | The Guardian

[bsnub]

The shoe has dropped.

Germany has taken steps to halt the process of certifying the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia, Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Tuesday, as the West started taking punitive measures against Moscow over the Ukraine crisis.Scholz told reporters in Berlin that his government was taking the measure in response to Moscow’s actions in Ukraine.

The decision is a significant move for the German government, which had long resisted pulling the plug on the project despite pressure from the United States and some European countries to do so. Washington has for years argued that building another pipeline bringing natural gas from Russia to Germany increases Europe’s reliance on Russian energy supplies.

Scholz said that the government had decided to “reassess” the certification of the pipeline, which hasn’t begun operating yet, in light of the latest developments.

“That will certainly take time, if I may say so,” he said.

Germany meets about a quarter of its energy needs with natural gas, a share that will increase in the coming years as the country switches off its last three nuclear power plants and phases out the use of coal. About half of the natural gas used in Germany comes from Russia.

Ukraine-Russia: Germany suspends Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline | AP News

[bsnub]

ackspin, OhOh and Sabang

Better known as the Three Stooges. A trio of total buffoons.

[sabang]

This buffoon has been proven right about Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Venezuela etc. Just send me one Bitcoin, and I'll send ya some Buffoon juice.

[NamPikToot]

^ staggering its taken this long for them to wake up and all because they withdrew from Nuclear early. The UK is no better with its run down of gas however, but we didn't tie ourselves to a country run by a despotic criminal.

[Norton]

The Good guys always win.

Remember the Alamo.

[bsnub]

This buffoon has been proven right about Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Venezuela etc.

Bullshit. You live in a fantasy world, besides my fucking bitcoins are worth less because of this coont that you worship.

[sabang]

So go ahead, convert me to the one true Faith. Loser worship!

[OhOh]

A grass roots uprising

How can you forget the "Fuck the EU" statement by a .... national.

Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukrain

"Nuland: OK. He's now gotten both Serry and [UN Secretary General] Ban Ki-moon to agree that Serry could come in Monday or Tuesday. So that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and to have the UN help glue it and, you know, Fuck the EU."

Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call - BBC News

[bsnub]

So go ahead, convert me to the one true Faith. Loser worship!

I am not a lemming like you. I do not slob the nobs of dictators. Furthermore, I am not a mindless idiot like you. I see the collapse of your dictators, who will fall first, but capitalism will not be far behind.

[bsnub]

More trash for the DH. You are an idiot.

[sabang]

Energy prices are likely to go up, and China looks set to sign a long term natural gas deal with Russia. Mopping up, as always. You guys are like Cupid- China and Russia have never been this close!

[sabang]

Still waiting.................... ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Backspin]

Philip Oltermann - Scholz says Nord Stream 2 won't be certified and he has instructed a new assessment of how Germany's energy supplies can be secured. "The situation has fundamentally changed": https://twitter.com/philipoltermann/...78379426136064

NS2 was going to be shelved for a couple years anyway. This is good. It shows the high cost that Europe pays to have its foreign policy dictated by DC

Who will be hurting from the financing ?

NS2 financing
Crédit Agricole is documentation bank and bank facility agent. Société Générale is intercreditor agent, Sace facility agent, security trustee and model bank. Commerzbank is Hermes facility agent, UniCredit is UFK facility agent, Deutsche Bank is account bank and Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation is technical and environmental bank.^[94][95] The financial advisers were Société Générale, Royal Bank of Scotland (ABN Amro), Dresdner Kleinwort (Commerzbank), and Unicredit.^[97][98] The legal adviser to Nord Stream was White & Case and legal adviser for the lenders was Clifford Chance.^[95]

[Backspin]

I asked which country.

Russia has invaded the Donetsk region of Ukraine

The US overthrew the govt in 2014 and started Nato accession plans.



Stratfor chief's "most blatant coup in history" interview from Dec. 2014 - New Cold War: Know Better

[Backspin]

Why are you so sabang-like and posting up strawman arguments every time, except for when you simply lie?

It should be up to Ukraine to apply for membership without another country interfering - why do you want to deny a sovereign country the right to make their own decisions?

It's not a strawman at all. If NATO granted the security guarantee Russia was asking for , there'd be no war.

You support war in Europe instead of no NATO for Ukraine. Got it.