Ukraine war mega thread

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Skidmark will be frantically googling to get his next opinion, too.

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Fuck skiddy he is a total waste of space just like ohdoh. I do not even read the shit they post anymore. I do peek at sabangs shit though because I know he is smart enough to know better. He just chooses to be an idiot, which I find odd. The Three Stooges of TD are real.

Whatever happened the Sukhoi flying coffins?

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Boeing, the world's largest airplane manufacturer, said it was stopping parts, maintenance, and technical support for Russian airlines as the impact of sanctions imposed in the aftermath of Russia's invasion of Ukraine echoes around the world.
The news came Tuesday, as aircraft and engine makers, lessors, and maintenance, repair, and overhaul (MRO) providers with Russian customers face a slew of EU and US restrictions, including restrictions on leasing planes, exporting new planes, and providing components.
There may also be payment delays as a result of the suspension of several Russian banks from the SWIFT international payments system.
The new sanctions isolate Russia's aviation sector in the same manner they isolate Iran and North Korea, but they will have far more serious implications due to the Russian market's larger size and previous strong reliance on Western supplies.

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Boeing Halts Support For Russian Airlines

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And Russia has never supported friendly leaders?

Have you never heard of the Saur revolution?

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This conversation string makes no since.

You said :
"FFS if history has taught us anything it's that you don't let aggressors get away with anything, or they will just do more. "
to which I replied:
"Yet we let the US get away with aggression all around the world. Is there a different set of rules for the US? " meaning that there seems to be a double standard.

You replied :
"Are you trying to compare the likes of Hitler and Saddam Hussein with the US
I expect that sort of feeble non-sequitur from Hoohoo but not you. "
I don't know wow Hitler entered this conversation, but be it.

I replied to your Saddam mention:
" If you pulled Sandam's pans down stamped on his ass would be "Made in the USA""


You replied:
" And Russia has never supported friendly leaders?Have you never heard of the Saur revolution?"

Where did I say that Russia was a saint? All I said is that, we should hold everyone to the same standard. We can have one set of rules for Russia and a different Rule for the US.
My assertion from the beginning is not to be "a Russian apologist " as I have been accused , but that as bad as it is, Russia is not doing any different than the US would if and when faced with a similar situation. And I proceeded to describe the situation as I understand it.
I was even diagnosed as "sniveling" by no less a doctor!! In this thread. LOL

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The UK government is open to removing Russia as one of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council following the invasion of Ukraine, Prime Minister Boris Johnson's spokesman said Tuesday.
"I think it's something we want to discuss with the UN obviously," the spokesman, who speaks on condition of anonymity, told reporters.
"There are the mechanisms in place for that which are well established," he said, adding that Johnson had yet to stake out a position himself on the question.
"What is right to say is that we want to see Russia isolated diplomatically, and we will consider all options to achieve that."
Britain is also one of the five permanent members alongside Russia, the United States, China and France.
The five are meant to guarantee international peace and security, but Russia stands accused of trashing the UN rulebook with its offensive on Ukraine.

UK Says Evicting Russia From UN Security Council Among 'All Options' | Barron's

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This IMO is farcical , does Boris know what the word permanent mean?

"There is no mechanism to remove a permanent member of the Security Council written into the UN Charter. The word “permanent” was to mean just that. But there is a process to remove a country from the United Nations. That would require a vote of the UN General Assembly based on the recommendation of the Security Council. This has never been done. And given that Russia has a veto on the Security Council, the Council cannot recommend Russia’s removal without Russia’s agreement. This simply will not happen. So no, Russia cannot be kicked out. "
Ukraine invasion: should Russia lose its seat on the UN Security Council?

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Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

This IMO is farcical , does Boris know what the word permanent mean?

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What are you blathering on about now? You have exposed yourself as another bozo.

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Originally Posted by Switch

Does the Russian general staff support Putin’s War, or is he pulling the strings independent of their advice

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I don't think that they dare to disagree with him

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Originally Posted by Switch

I rather think that his unrealistic expectations of superiority could be his downfall

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I think that his place in history, as "Vladimir the Great" is what matters to him.

And he will be stamped in the books as a loser.

He'll fall, unless ofcourse "someone" will see an advantage in him staying in power.

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Originally Posted by pickel

I suppose it might be strange for Countries in the North Pacific Ocean to belong to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, even though NATO has moved inland a bit.

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Many years ago there was a Seato, so..

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Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

Where did I say that Russia was a saint? All I said is that, we should hold everyone to the same standard. We can have one set of rules for Russia and a different Rule for the US.

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Unpopular view at the moment as folks are getting more indoctrinated by the hour.

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Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

And I proceeded to describe the situation as I understand it.

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So you should

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Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

I was even diagnosed as "sniveling" by no less a doctor!! In this thread. LOL

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Don't mind him
He is a nothing.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

What are you blathering on about now? You have exposed yourself as another bozo.

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Please don't mistake ad hominem attacks as wit

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Originally Posted by bsnub

They were all wiped out.



That is incorrect. Ukraine is still attacking from the air with Bayraktar TB2 drones. There is lots of video footage of them on Twitter attacking the Russian convoys.

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Hahaha

Kherson. Azov (Nazi ideological group embedded with Ukraine army) is routed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMzEi6NX...jpg&name=small

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Whatever happened the Sukhoi flying coffins?


Boeing Halts Support For Russian Airlines[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

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HOTR: Putin can shut down commercial aviation, consultant warned - Leeham News and Analysis

“Why? Because a company named VSMPO is the world’s biggest titanium producer,” Michaels noted. “It’s hard to get accurate numbers. I dug some out of our archives when we last did this in 2010. At that time, VSMPO had a 35% share of aerospace titanium consumption. According to The Air Current, they provide 35% of Boeing’s titanium, 65% of Airbus, and 100% of Embraer.

All these twats saying Putin's beat because of a few drones and molotov coctails
are out of their minds.
He'll ratchet up the heat as it becomes clear he's weak in certain areas.
Wait until he brings in the airstrikes and takes out the utilities and the supermarkets are empty and the water's of and there's no power and he just sits back and waits.
It's early days.
(And by the way can we stop the stupid bickering)
Oh, and anyone supporting Russia should just be hanged.

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Originally Posted by helge

I don't think that they dare to disagree with him

I think that his place in history, as "Vladimir the Great" is what matters to him.

And he will be stamped in the books as a loser.

He'll fall, unless ofcourse "someone" will see an advantage in him staying in power.


Many years ago there was a Seato, so..

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The US actually has a series of alliances with 5 regional members in support of maintaining collective peace in the greater Pacific region. South Korea, Japan, Australia, Philippines and Thailand.

http://Europe Gas Rises 60% With Tra...m Russia Deals

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...er-2022-02-27/

What I would really like to know, is who is using Backspins login. It certainly isn’t backspin or SoCal, because as stupid and moronic as they both are, the sudden move to heretical quotes from left wing propaganda, is simply not realistic or believable.
So who has been using his login?

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Originally Posted by Cujo

(And by the way can we stop the stupid bickering)
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Ok :chitown:

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Oh, and anyone supporting Russia should just be hanged

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:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Switch

heretical quotes from left wing propaganda,

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Originally Posted by Switch

So who has been using his login?

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Could be Bsnub

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Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

This conversation string makes no since.

You said :
"FFS if history has taught us anything it's that you don't let aggressors get away with anything, or they will just do more. "
to which I replied:
"Yet we let the US get away with aggression all around the world. Is there a different set of rules for the US? " meaning that there seems to be a double standard.

You replied :
"Are you trying to compare the likes of Hitler and Saddam Hussein with the US
I expect that sort of feeble non-sequitur from Hoohoo but not you. "
I don't know wow Hitler entered this conversation, but be it.

I replied to your Saddam mention:
" If you pulled Sandam's pans down stamped on his ass would be "Made in the USA""


You replied:
" And Russia has never supported friendly leaders?Have you never heard of the Saur revolution?"

Where did I say that Russia was a saint? All I said is that, we should hold everyone to the same standard. We can have one set of rules for Russia and a different Rule for the US.
My assertion from the beginning is not to be "a Russian apologist " as I have been accused , but that as bad as it is, Russia is not doing any different than the US would if and when faced with a similar situation. And I proceeded to describe the situation as I understand it.
I was even diagnosed as "sniveling" by no less a doctor!! In this thread. LOL

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But no, it’s not the same. Please point to me the time the US led a conventional army in an invasion of a sovereign other with the purpose of annexation or annihilation; . Was it Mexico or Canada?

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Originally Posted by DrWilly

But no, it’s not the same. Please point to me the time the US led a conventional army in an invasion of a sovereign other with the purpose of annexation or annihilation; . Was it Mexico or Canada?

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The US depth charged a Soviet nuclear submarine while it was in safe passage to Cuba and Cuba had a sovereign right to host such Soviet submarines. And an invasion was planned but only halted because of Soviet troops on the ground. Good thing Cuba was in the Soviet Nato. It avoided a war.:rolleyes: Russia should reopen those bases in Cuba to prevent a war. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

https://sbt.blob.core.windows.net/st...41819013930000

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Originally Posted by DrWilly

Please point to me the time the US led a conventional army in an invasion of a sovereign other with the purpose of annexation or annihilation;

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Annexation/regime change/ installing "a son of a bitch of their own":

Russia-Siberia and Kola area
Banana Wars

Bay of Pigs (nah)
Dominican Republic
Cuba
Iraq

Afghanistan

Philippines
Grenada
Panama

Vietnam ?
Cambodia ?


Would you like a list of US supported coups, which toppled elected governments and installed brutal dictators ?

No, you won't, cause it doesn't fit your narrative.

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Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

This IMO is farcical , does Boris know what the word permanent mean?

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Do you even read what you post?

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But is Russia validly there at all? This is Ukraine’s question. The UN Charter says that the USSR, not Russia, is the permanent member.

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Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

This conversation string makes no since.

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Yes, I'm starting to think you're a bit out of your depth.

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Originally Posted by helge

Would you like a list of US supported coups, which toppled elected governments and installed brutal dictators ?

No, you won't, cause it doesn't fit your narrative.

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This is not a "supported coup" it's a fucking invasion you moron.

The US has Germany right where it wants it. Enjoy being strangled by green new deals and defense waste

Germany is committing 100 billion euros to a special fund for its armed forces, raising defense spending above 2% of GDP - ABC News