Thread: 2022 French elections

Originally Posted by Switch

Which hallucinogens were you using when you posted this?

He posted a photo of his syphilitic tongue . . . explains a lot

Originally Posted by Backspin

Lepen is to the left of Macron in a lot of ways

That she wants to lift/ease add on taxes on some consumer goods, which will benefit the poor, does sound "left" in a traditional left- right sense.

I think that France is beyond talk about left and right.

Macron is the "system's man" from the parisian elite.

Serves the ...elite

Hardly one leftie fiber in his body.


Le Pen is fishing in the emigrant waters and the disgust for the elite.


France is divided; like the US and Brexit UK.


Macron is lucky, cause it will be another referendrum for or against Le Pen.

Would I vote for either ?

Hmm

I don't think so


Poor France

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Explain

Umm here's just one article

Factbox: Macron wants the French to work longer, shake up welfare state | Reuters

-Raise the minimum pension age to 65 from 62

* Require 15-20 hours a week of training for welfare benefit recipients

* Cut taxes by 15 billion euros with half for households and the rest for businesses.

* Further loosen labour market rules and reform unemployment insurance to make payments vary according to the state of the economy

* Raise the threshold over which inheritance tax kicks in from 100,000 euros to 150,000 euros

Originally Posted by DrWilly

crickets

And another article

One year on, Macron governs as a right-wing French president

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Explain

And here's just some of Lepens policies

She wants to create a new wealth tax and reduce VAT on energy to 5.5% from 20%

Pen once pledged to re-introduce retirement at age 60 — a measure implemented by Socialist president Francois Mitterand in 1982. Now, she only wants retirement to start at 60 for those who started their career before 20. She also wants to raise the minimum state pension to 1,000 euros a month, and increase payouts based on inflation

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Explain

And another

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LePen, who has already held out the prospect of a “government of national unity”, said on Thursday that while she would “probably not” work with hard-left candidate Jean-Luc Mélenchon, she could work with leftists such as those who follow Jean-Pierre Chevènement, a former interior minister under Socialist prime minister Lionel Jospin. “I could very well have people, for example, from the Chevènement left, in other words a sovereigntist left, a left which supports re-industrialisation, the defence of our great industries,” she told RTL radio

Originally Posted by Backspin

LePen

You really can't read, can you . . .

Originally Posted by helge

Macron is the "system's man" from the parisian elite.

He'd never even get past the primaries if that were the case

My bad everyone, I should have known better than to challenge Backspit to post more shit.

Originally Posted by panama hat

He'd never even get past the primaries if that were the case

Emmanuel Macron - Wikipedia

He has all characteristics.

I'd say he is

Macron wins the election...

...is that the end of Marine Le Pen at last?

The French are notoriously fickle when it comes to self preservation. They would elect a string of onions if it was on the ballot paper.
TBF Le Pen is a bit too far right, and disingenuous with it in an American way.

Originally Posted by helge

He has all characteristics.

I'd say he is

What would those be, Helge? Also, Paris has just over two million inhabitants . . . most not Parisian . . . France has 67 million - most of who detest the Parisians.

So, the voting numbers of Paris is under one million. France between 20 and 30 million.

Parisian 'elite' man - never in a million years.


At the end of the day Macron is infinitely better than Le Pen, so his win is a good thing.

Imagine if people were shot dead by police after Putins reelection in downtown Moscow

Paris police shoot two dead as car 'rushes' them amid Macron re-election protests - World News - Mirror Online

Originally Posted by malmomike77

i see choppy waters ahead, the high viz lot will be out in force over summer methinks.

Still what Micron needs is a good war to show his state craft and unite a divided country behind him, i guess he'll have to settle for his other pet project, that of his EU Army.

I agree. Its all too far gone.

Lepen is lucky that she didn't get the job.

Micron is going to get slaughtered in the June elections, i think he won't see out his 5 years and he'll be in Brussels suckling the EU teat in some senior position.

Syb given most EU countries have felt NATO was a waste of time and actively decided to ignore their commitments in favour of cuddling up to Russia and its resources, where do you think the realisation that Merkle fuk'd up and her leadership can now be viewed in less than glowing terms leaves the EU with Russia now an active threat on its members doorstep?

What is the EU response going to be? It can't even stop economic migrants at its borders.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Micron is going to get slaughtered in the June elections

Don't you predict his demise in everything by now?

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Syb given most EU countries have felt NATO was a waste of time and actively decided to ignore their commitments

Tell us about these commitments and the timeline they were supposed to be met by. Come on, you can do it . . .

Originally Posted by malmomike77

where do you think the realisation that Merkle fuk'd up and her leadership can now be viewed in less than glowing terms leaves the EU with Russia now an active threat on its members doorstep?

Ah, so Russia was never an active threat before Merkel? Why is your every post riddled with nonsensical anti-EU/France/Mekel etc... bullshit?

Originally Posted by malmomike77

What is the EU response going to be? It can't even stop economic migrants at its borders.

You're still not clear what a refugee status is . . . and luckily you have BoJo the clown leading you - it's so very apt.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Regardless, the lowest turnout since 1969 suggests that, as in a few countries around the world, voters were not impressed by the options.

Yup, complacency on the part of politicians and voters, I'd suggest.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Tell us about these commitments and the timeline they were supposed to be met by. Come on, you can do it . . .

Oh are we going to get into another circular discussion like the one where you flatly denied that Germany was dependant on Russian Oil and Gas, you've remained quiet on the subject since the start of the invasion - i note Germany remains unable to cease supplies from Moscow and continues to bankroll Putin

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Did i say it wasn't a threat before, that as usual is you choosing to "read" into my post more than i said - you do that a lot

You go off on such huge tangents, followed by tangents from your tangents, that it can be a puzzle wtf you're on about.

Especially when, as seems to be the case currently, you are somewhat over lubricated.

One minute it's an EU army, then .. well who can do anything but guess what your further 'points' had to do with anything except your anti EU hobby horse.

Rant on - but don't be surprised if others tune out from the same old song.

^^ the french elections are all about the EU in case you'd failed to notice Syb.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Did i say it wasn't a threat before

Yes. Read your own shit before you make an even bigger fool of yourself:

Originally Posted by malmomike77

with Russia now an active threat on its members doorstep?

Originally Posted by malmomike77

^^ the french elections are all about the EU in case you'd failed to notice Syb.

Except they're not . . . well, unless you're pissed as a newt more often than not.

Ok - prove they "are all about the EU". Again - try to prove your bullshit.

I'll forgive you that Eng isnt your first language and you missed the word active, i only hope your business English is better