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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel View Post

    Anyways, I doubt that you have any data to back up your statement. Sure, maybe 20-30% of illegals living in America arrived by air, though they are much less of a concern than those who crossed the border because the overstayers were screened at least once.
    Do you have any data to back up your statement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Do you have any data to back up your statement?
    It is FaRT. He has a new nick. He will constantly bend the goal post and twist your words. The man is cancer.

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    What’s with the new nick?

    Samuel?

    Is that some lame attempt to sound cerebral?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel
    Anyways, I doubt that you have any data to back up your statement. Sure, maybe 20-30% of illegals living in America arrived by air.
    During fiscal 2017, the Department of Homeland Security found that the number of immigrants that overstayed their visas was more than double those apprehended at the border during the same time frame.

    Where Does Illegal Immigration Mostly Occur? Here's What The Data Tell Us : NPR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel View Post
    Do you really think that the Washington Post would be writing an editorial stating "a policy whose incoherence has yielded pressure at the border that may cost the Democrats control of one or both houses of Congress in next year’s midterm elections." if the record level of illegals crashing the border wasn't a big deal and actually those flying into America and overstaying their visas is the more significant issue?
    They're writing it because they know Republicans will be dog whistling more shit about "caravans" and "border walls" to raise the ire of their base, the racist trumpanzee arseholes and jesus wheezers, to get them out to vote.

    It is not long ago that Republicans had the house, senate and presidency and never once pushed an immigration bill.

    That should tell even the most retarded that they are not interested in resolving it when they know they can keep using it as a political tool.

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    The Blaze, now there is a non biased neutral source... Damn Peters you are well gone....

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    He almost had me with “Harvard economist”, until the source was revealed.

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    Anyone that would try to blame this inflation on Biden is a full stop idiot. The causes of the inflation are pretty clear for any reasonably intelligent individual.
    Last edited by bsnub; 13-08-2021 at 02:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    The causes of the inflation are pretty clear for any reasonably intelligent individual.
    What would those causes be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    During fiscal 2017, the Department of Homeland Security found that the number of immigrants that overstayed their visas was more than double those apprehended at the border during the same time frame.

    Where Does Illegal Immigration Mostly Occur? Here's What The Data Tell Us : NPR
    From the chart in your article, there were 500K overstays in the most recent year analyzed.

    Meanwhile, this year there have been more than 1 million illegals caught trying to cross the border since October.

    Of course, if you include those who could cross without getting caught, then the number is much higher.

    More than 1 million migrants arrested at the US-Mexico border since October

    More than 1 million migrants arrested at the US-Mexico border since October - CNNPolitics

    From Politifact:



    Our ruling

    Ramos said that about 40 percent of undocumented immigrants fly into the country and overstay their visas. While there is some evidence that overstays represent about 40 percent of the unauthorized population, and perhaps more, the best estimates of those flying in -- which are admittedly a bit shaky -- could be as low as one-quarter or somewhat more than one-third. The statement is partially accurate but leaves out important details, so we rate it Half True.

    PolitiFact | Ramos: 40% of undocumented immigrants come by air

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    What would those causes be?
    Do you have no ideas of your own? If not, then perhaps you're one of the idiots who think it is Biden's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It is not long ago that Republicans had the house, senate, and presidency and never once pushed an immigration bill.
    Well, they worked on getting the wall built while Democrats fought tooth and nail to stop the construction.

    As already mentioned, Reagan was the last one to legalize illegal immigrants with the plan that the border is secured — so they don't have to do it all over again.

    1. Secure the border.
    2. Negotiate on how to legalize the 10-15 million illegals living in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    The causes of the inflation are pretty clear for any reasonably intelligent individual.
    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    What would those causes be?
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Do you have no ideas of your own? If not, then perhaps you're one of the idiots who think it is Biden's fault.

    bsnub, I was asking what YOU thought the 'causes of the inflation' where.

    Because, essentially you are saying is that anyone who doesn't agree with you "is a full stop idiot".

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    ^ That's because he doesn't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel View Post
    Well, they worked on getting the wall built while Democrats fought tooth and nail to stop the construction.
    Because it wasn't the fucking problem.

    You need all these border crossers to pick your fruit and veg and wipe your arse for you.

    Something else covered in the Obama Immigration Reform bill that Republicans blocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    What would those causes be?
    The Biden admin would say inflation is temporary due to supply chains being disrupted due to demand declining during the lockdown and then suddenly increasing after things opened up.


    Critics say that the trillions the Biden Admin is planning to spend this year in excess of the regular budget will cause even more inflation unless the fiscal stimulus "leads to increased production, as opposed to only consumption."



    There is good reason to expect inflation in the short to medium term, but the longer term picture is more mixed. The seeds of higher long-term inflation are surely present, but the chances of their germinating will depend to a large extent on to what extent the extra fiscal stimulus from the US and elsewhere leads to increased production, as opposed to only consumption.If there is higher business investment and labour participation, government budget deficits will narrow faster as the private sector gets back into gear and pays more in taxes. This will also help the Fed to find a smoother path through the minefield of the exit from QE, since the increased bank lending will be more likely to be unlocking sustainable economic growth. If so, it is still possible that the central banks’ claims that inflation will only be transitory could still be proven right.


    more: https://theconversation.com/inflatio...that-161461the

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    I said anyone that would blame this inflation on Biden is an idiot.
    Where’s hoehoe

    edit...........

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    What would those causes be?
    Question for Fvck off David. Did you move any money you have in the market out during the past 8 months because you read that the market would tank if Biden was elected?
    Last edited by S Landreth; 13-08-2021 at 06:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Where’s hoehoe
    Looks like we have FaRT to post his nonsense instead.

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    Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That It’ll Weigh Down the Economy for Years



    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel View Post
    Critics say that the trillions the Biden Admin is planning to spend this year in excess of the regular budget will cause even more inflation unless the fiscal stimulus "leads to increased production, as opposed to only consumption.
    More of your utter nonsense. The truth...

    One of President Donald Trump’s lesser known but profoundly damaging legacies will be the explosive rise in the national debt that occurred on his watch. The financial burden that he’s inflicted on our government will wreak havoc for decades, saddling our kids and grandkids with debt.

    The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. That’s nearly twice as much as what Americans owe on student loans, car loans, credit cards and every other type of debt other than mortgages, combined, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It amounts to about $23,500 in new federal debt for every person in the country.

    The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, according to a calculation by a leading Washington budget maven, Eugene Steuerle, co-founder of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. And unlike George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the larger relative increases in deficits, Trump did not launch two foreign conflicts or have to pay for a civil war.

    Read the rest here...

    Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That It’ll Weigh Down the Economy for Years — ProPublica

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Question for Fvck off David.
    What do you mean by that comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    What do you mean by that comment?
    Stop dodging questions, you numptie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Stop dodging questions, you numptie.
    Well snubbie, I asked you a question and you didn't reply.

    I asked another member a question and you reply on their behalf.


    BTW, I was asking what YOU thought the 'causes of the inflation' ... but you can't be arsed to reply.

    OH, thanks for the red

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    One of President Donald Trump’s lesser known but profoundly damaging legacies will be the explosive rise in the national debt that occurred on his watch.
    Bsnub,

    We're talking in the context of inflation — and the effect Biden's extra trillions of spending will have on it.


    Sorry to tell you that Trump's spending did not cause inflation as the economy was booming, AND it definitely is not a possible cause of inflation this year.


    So, not sure what you're on about.

    Last edited by Samuel; 13-08-2021 at 06:52 PM.

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