Thread: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or self defense ?

So:
"Let's kill the motherfucker!" Was in fact "Fuck you".
And
Wrestling the rifle from Kyle was in fact throwing a plastic bag and making a lunge for him.

Scared boy that should have stayed at home instead of provoking violence by his presence.

Originally Posted by Backspin

haven't the faintest concept of self defense laws

Again, your LLB is from what university?

Originally Posted by Troy

So:
"Let's kill the motherfucker!" Was in fact "Fuck you".
And
Wrestling the rifle from Kyle was in fact throwing a plastic bag and making a lunge for him.

Yup, typical Skidmark - lies, deflects, obfuscates and declares himself right

Every

Single

Time

Originally Posted by Edmond

Nobody was murdered.

Excuse me? Two people died by another person's action. Are you suggesting manslaughter?

Originally Posted by aging one

hmmm.....

What Is Kyle Rittenhouse Charged With? - The New York Times

And when he's cleared of the charge, the fatalities will have been shown to have been killed in self-defense. :-) No murders took place. :-)

Originally Posted by happynz

Two people died by another person's action.

Same as a car crash on the news yesterday.

No murder happened there either.

Originally Posted by Edmond

Nobody was murdered.

Originally Posted by Edmond

And when he's cleared of the charge, the fatalities will have been shown to have been killed in self-defense. :-) No murders took place. :-)

Kinda shit as a walkback but whatevs.

Originally Posted by happynz

Excuse me? Two people died by another person's action. Are you suggesting manslaughter?

I doubt he sincerely believes something so ludicrous at this point and is more motivated by seeing socal's success in trolling this thread and wants some of the action.

Which is somehow worse?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Kinda shit as a walkback but whatevs.

You've trained as a lawyer, a charge of (and trial for) murder doesn't mean somebody was murdered. :-)

Originally Posted by Edmond

You've trained as a lawyer, a charge of (and trial for) murder doesn't mean somebody was murdered. :-)

Don't have to be trained as anything to know that proclaiming there was no murder midst an ongoing trial doesn't mean anything.

Eddie, you should have used "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law", then at least we would know you watch Cops therefore making you an expert in the law. Much easier for you to argue your position that way.

It's a homicide (killing) — not murder — unless he's convicted.

Murder - Wikipedia

Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse, especially the unlawful killing of another human with malice a forethought.

Originally Posted by Samuel

It's a homicide (killing) — not murder — unless he's convicted.

All the legal scoop scholars are coming out of the woodwork.

hom·i·cide/ˈhäməˌsīd/

noun North American

1. the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder.
   "he was charged with homicide"

Originally Posted by Samuel

It's a homicide (killing) — not murder — unless he's convicted.

Well it's stating the fucking obvious to say he's not guilty of anything until found guilty.

not murder — unless he's convicted.

Yes.

If the killer is not convicted of murder, the deceased was not murdered.


Anyway, now that we all agree on that, what Fawlty Towers-esque comedy scenes are on-going in the trial?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Well it's stating the fucking obvious to say he's not guilty of anything until found guilty.

Sometimes Ant and AO need the obvious explained to them.

I doubt he sincerely believes something so ludicrous at this point and is more motivated by seeing socal's success in trolling this thread and wants some of the action.

Originally Posted by Edmond

Sometimes Ant and AO need the obvious explained to them.

Q.E.D.

People are dead, socal and lulu are filling their boots.

Originally Posted by Edmond

If

Originally Posted by Edmond

Nobody was murdered.

Keep backtracking.

Originally Posted by Edmond

Sometimes Ant and AO need the obvious explained to them.

Nah you are just defensive over your omelet getting panned. Plus whats up with the reading comprehension?

Originally Posted by aging one

Eddie, you should have used "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law",

Originally Posted by Edmond

Same as a car crash on the news yesterday.

No murder happened there either.

It was an accident?

Originally Posted by Edmond

You've trained as a lawyer, a charge of (and trial for) murder doesn't mean somebody was murdered. :-)

Neither does it mean they were not, numbnuts. That's the point of a fucking trial.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

a fucking trial.

At the fucking end of the fucking trial the fucking legal system will fucking rule that he's fucking not guilty of fucking murder, Pottymouth.

Originally Posted by Edmond

At the fucking end of the fucking trial the fucking legal system will fucking rule that he's fucking not guilty of fucking murder, Pottymouth.

Well no it fucking won't actually. It will rule that they can fucking prove or not prove him guilty of fucking murder.|

You've heard of Nicole Simpson, right? Would you agree that she was murdered?

Originally Posted by Edmond

At the fucking end of the fucking trial the fucking legal system will fucking rule that he's fucking not guilty of fucking murder, Pottymouth.

Funny, but you and socalled were saying the same thing about Derek Chauvin, who was found guilty of murder, both of you bleating on in that thread the same as in this one. Interesting the sides you find yourself on.

Self defence is still murder, it's just justifiable murder.

I really cannot understand why some of you (especially Atticus "backspit" Finch) get so damn bent out of shape on all this. The American legal system (note I avoid describing it as a "justice system") is a crap shoot.

In the end it will come down to the "fine" point of whether what Rittenhouse did was seen by 12 jurors as "provocative" or not, and will really have f*ck all to do with "justice". But either way life, somehow will go on.
















Well, except for those he gunned down like dogs of course.

This video seems to be less agenda laden.

The last I knew vigilantism is illegal in the USA.


Forgot to add, Kyle didn't even have the required gun license to own the weapon he possessed.

He's going to get found guilty on at least one of the charges and will come out of prison with an arsehole like Cheddar Gorge.

So there's that. *






* That might be what's getting skidmark so excited.

Originally Posted by cisco999

Kyle didn't even have the required gun license to own the weapon he possessed.

He did not. he was too young to possess that gun.

Originally Posted by cisco999

Forgot to add, Kyle didn't even have the required gun license to own the weapon he possessed.

You do not need a license to own a long gun in the US.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

He did not. he was too young to possess that gun.

Are you sure about that? You can buy long guns at the age of 18.